God, I would love it if that happened just to imagine the freakout he has if it happens.
Kyle Walker: Spurs lacked the edge to win trophies
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It would be quite enjoyable to witness.
Spurs won't sell any players to rivals to Spurs won't sell star players to rivals.
Lol ... in that hypothetical situation he'd leave for the higher wages .... the better club finished a massive 18 points above United.
He WANTS WANTS WANTS trophies which is perfectly legit and isn't happy with just being above United trophy.
Very true. I'm glad the last 9 years have finally sunk in.
I'm sorry but nobody cares about how much you spent if you go on and win things. Till Spurs have won something, none of this matters. Madrid are the best example, you think their fans are crying because they paid record fees for Ronaldo, Bale and others? No, they are celebrating back to back CL victories.
I do agree with you on the football aspect though, they do play good football, while also winning matches. But unless they win things, nobody really will take them seriously.
What a load of rubbish. Spurs have done brilliantly and have come very close despite having an inferior side vs the other top teams.
Their master plan doesn't include winning trophies.
Until we do win something we have to accept this sort of comment.
As I said, United have lost their way because of their unbalanced focus on "big names" and cheque-book management. It's a simple point. Dispute if you wish.Yes, United have lost their way because of Successful from Caf's views on football. fecking hell
What? That you keep shifting goal posts and make ridiculous posts? That's sunk in long back.
Lots of predictable responses in this thread as usual. I don't see anything wrong with what Walker said, although he should have known that the media would misrepresent it. He said that
1. Spurs were just missing that little bit something, obviously true since we didn't manage to win anything.
2. He hopes that will be different in his new club (what was he supposed to say?) This would be the same no matter what club he moved to.
Ultimately people want to turn it into a statement that he left because of trophies, but I don't think that's the case at all.
1. Spurs were just missing that little bit something, obviously true since we didn't manage to win anything.
2. He hopes that will be different in his new club (what was he supposed to say?) This would be the same no matter what club he moved to.
Ultimately people want to turn it into a statement that he left because of trophies, but I don't think that's the case at all.
Naah, I'll pass.
Yeah, we should go for online transactions. Add payee and make payment.
i think Spurs fans are in denial but players once they reach peak (at least good players) they want to win trophies. They can't stay forever waiting. Whatever Spurs are doing, Arsenal have already done it. Players like Nasri, RVP, Fabregas and many others like Ade, Toure all left when they knew they can earn more and also win trophies.
His comments reflect the stupid society attitude "without a title you are worthless". There is nothing to be ashamed of, when you finish 2nd twice in the EPL for a club projected to finish anywhere between 4-6. He should be proud. It´s all subconscious, but he also could have said that he is very proud of what he and the team accomplished, but the offer from City was just too good from every angle. No he says Tottenham was not good enough to win the title, I need to go to City to win trophies. There are only three trophies to win every year and people already scoff at the EuroLeague and the national cup competitions.
What goal posts have I shifted? Walker was not one of our star players.
We are aiming to win trophies though and we have a decent chance of doing so. I agree though that we need to start winning things soon.
No, you should go back to basics ... by which I don't mean cash-in-hand.
Inferior side? That's nonsense. They have a lower net spend than any of the other top sides due to the fact that they don't compete for the same group of players; that's one thing you could point to and congratulate them on. They certainly have a lower wage structure which you could also point to, but to say they have a inferior side is just wrong.
Arsenal also tried to win trophies, like you said unless you start winning it will become difficult to hold on to players.
Pointless generic post, something that would be home at Sky studio.
Press conferences for newly signed players are a nonsense. Whatever he said would have been twisted against his club.
I do think trophies played a part in him moving on, but didnt he start falling out with the club 3/4 of the way through last season? Spurs were still in with a shout at the time.
I don't mind Glaston but this is bollocks. United lost thier way due to a series of poor appointments at the managerial position and subsequent poor purchases in the transfer market - not by focussing on big names but by failing to replace quality with quality. Moyes and LVG systematically stripped a squad of title winners and replaced it with a lot of dross. Yes a few big names were bought (Di Maria, Falcao) but the bigger mistakes were the Memphises and Fellainis.
Ultimately the club will pursue the players chosen by the manager. Appointing Jose is a huge step in the right direction given his ability to build a coherent squad. Arguably if we had appointed Jose straight after SAF we would not have suffered the same instant decline.
Spurs are not like Real Madrid, Man United, Barcelona or Bayern Münich, though. They're a much smaller club who shouldn't be able to compete with the likes of Chelsea, City and United. For them to finish second (and if Kane hadn't been injured they may even have won it) is as big an achievement, if not bigger, than a league title is for Madrid. People seem to measure their success the same way they measure the success of the biggest clubs in the world, and that just isn't reasonable.
Yeah, finishing above and being better aren't the same thing.
More trophies in one season than Spurs in a decade.
United 'losing their way' still pisses all over Spurs' best seasons in your lifetime.
Better hope we don't find our way again, whatever that means.
Why did you appoint LVG if not partly due to the fact that he was a "big name"? The same goes for Mourinho. Nor were di Maria and Falcao the only big-name players you've gone for: they also include Schweiny, Pogba, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan,
And the cheque-book management approach is self-evident: just look at the vast sums you've spent on additions to your last title-winning squad. This approach is even accelerating under Mourinho.
They are ... especially when the gap was effectively 18 points. The league table rarely lies, and never to that extent.
Meh, disagree.
Chopping and changing manager is the bigger issue. Not that some of them didn't warrant the chop.
The signings have been hit and miss, as they more or less always are for everyone.
I'm not sure who's more deluded between rawk, bluemoon or glastonspur.
I think we need a poll.
This would be a better point if you didn't drop out of all the cups more or less immediately.
It'd be a better point if you actually won the league and we didn't win a bunch of cups too.
Its not a very good point really
You think Spurs weren't the better side compared to United last season, despite the 18 point gap, and I'm the one who is deluded?
Before Walker your narrative was Spurs won't sell any players to rivals. Period (along with the Daddy BS).
Now you have shifted goal posts to account for the Walker transfer by changing the narrative to "star players".
We definitely, 100% had a better season. Its not even close to being debatable
Cup wins depend a lot on the luck of the draw. The league table doesn't.
Yes, Spurs need to start winning some trophies, but it's clear to me - and I suspect most neutral observers - that Spurs were significantly better than United last season.
My reply was more a dig at the "master plan" from the other thread.
I can think of around 5 times as many reasons why he'd want to play for City than Spurs, £££.
You did better in the league, but you're not the better side. Only Chelsea really have a better side than United and that's not by much.