Like the Unsullied not noticing any of the 1000 fecking ships in their near vicinity... These are not some U-boats!!!....
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The 10k troops didn't teleport though. Casterly Rock isn't far away from the Tyrels. Jamie teleported not his troops.
They were just round the corner mate. You have to take creative liberties.
True.. add to that there will be loads of scouts and spies on either side... But deus ex machina!!!!
Fantastic episode.
Again I will say that if we'd analysed the logic of the early seasons with this much scrutiny then this show wouldn't have become the worldwide hit it is today. Suspend your disbelief and you'll enjoy it a lot more.
I never said they teleported from CR to Highgarden, but wherever they are, they will have to fight through a massive Tyrell's host to get to the heart of the Reach, then lay siege to the castle, which must be manned with ample number.
This is just a cheap way of making the game more even. Had they stopped with the CR ruse and Jaime's host was actually waiting in ambush for the retreating Unsullied, it'd be a believable and well thought out battle plan.
Tyrion built a Ho-door
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Greyjoys live very near Casterly Rock which is itself an inland harbour. It's built in like a cove thing. Not all that hard for Greyjoys to hide up the coast.
Wasnt Euron in KL though... Rock is on the other side of the continent, seawise.
Cercie is playing a blinder (I think that's how the Brits put it) so far.
I think we have to take with a pinch of salt and just presume Randyll Tarly, got the Reach behind him over Olenna and they only really had to take Highgarden.
Solid episode. Felt like the writing was a lot better than it's been in a while, some good exchanges. Loved the Jaime/Olenna confrontation at the end.
I dont get why people still have complaints about time gaps / skips etc. You know its going to happen for the sake of the story, so why is it always a complaint?
We already know its not going to be following real time or even logically matching what we should be expecting. What would happen in real life wont happen in this fantasy world, because, well... time.
I actually liked the Jon Snow and Dany scenes. Neither wanted to give an inch, but ultimately, Tyrion made Dany give something. I have a feeling Jon will use the glass to get evidence of a WW / Undead to show those who have never seen it before.
The Sansa/Bran stuff was good too.
Also good to see Mormont is pretty much fine now. Back to the friendzone he goes
loved the ending as well. A true moment of Cersei / Jamie playing the game of thrones. Give up something for the ultimate win. And a nice throwback to how Jamie was captured by Robb and essentially using the same plan.
Olenna calling Joffrey a cnut and then admitting it was her plan was great stuff.
We already know its not going to be following real time or even logically matching what we should be expecting. What would happen in real life wont happen in this fantasy world, because, well... time.
I actually liked the Jon Snow and Dany scenes. Neither wanted to give an inch, but ultimately, Tyrion made Dany give something. I have a feeling Jon will use the glass to get evidence of a WW / Undead to show those who have never seen it before.
The Sansa/Bran stuff was good too.
Also good to see Mormont is pretty much fine now. Back to the friendzone he goes
loved the ending as well. A true moment of Cersei / Jamie playing the game of thrones. Give up something for the ultimate win. And a nice throwback to how Jamie was captured by Robb and essentially using the same plan.
Olenna calling Joffrey a cnut and then admitting it was her plan was great stuff.
Could've been Euron himself wasn't there and he just sent some of his key men.
I agree, the teleportation is an issue but Euron's fleet being hidden, not so much.
Not if their bannermen turned, as was discussed with Jamie and Sams father the last episode.
It's alright sometimes but can be annoying when someone's able to jump from place to place in areas where it's essentially a warzone. Jaime getting to Highgarden was fine but examples like Jon just dotting around several northern houses in the one episode even though he was basically a wanted traitor at the time was a bit jarring.I dont get why people still have complaints about time gaps / skips etc. You know its going to happen for the sake of the story, so why is it always a complaint?
We already know its not going to be following real time or even logically matching what we should be expecting. What would happen in real life wont happen in this fantasy world, because, well... time.
I actually liked the Jon Snow and Dany scenes. Neither wanted to give an inch, but ultimately, Tyrion made Dany give something. I have a feeling Jon will use the glass to get evidence of a WW / Undead to show those who have never seen it before.
The Sansa/Bran stuff was good too.
Also good to see Mormont is pretty much fine now. Back to the friendzone he goes
loved the ending as well. A true moment of Cersei / Jamie playing the game of thrones. Give up something for the ultimate win. And a nice throwback to how Jamie was captured by Robb and essentially using the same plan.
Olenna calling Joffrey a cnut and then admitting it was her plan was great stuff.
What it does say is that Tyrion is shit at his job.... and Varys as well....
Yup.
Tyrion is hand of the king and for all Dany's strength's she's left Daario behind and has no one of her council who excel in battle. The SS were stupid, Olenna admitted herself battle wasn't a Tyrell thing (Randyl Tarly, did their fighting). Jaime convincing Tarly to take his side as opposed to Olenna's created a big power shift.
The Tarlys are only one of the Reach's houses. Even if all of the houses turned (which is a massive ask, but ok, let's assume), the Tyrell's own forces can number in the thousands at the very least, well equipped to withstand a siege for months.
It's just plot convenience, let's leave it at that. I understand why it's done, doesn't make it any less dumb.
Yep.
Well Tyrion and battleplans dont go hand in hand. In fact, battle of blackwater, that was only won cos of Tywin marching in with the Tyrells. That was going to be a losing effort too despite the wildfire.
Yeah I get the complaint the first time. But then the same complaint pretty much every episode (especially when its sorta been happening since s1) when you know its going to happen (and will happen more so in the last 2 seasons) is nuts.
How do we know its in the thousands? Did I miss when this was stated?
You'd have thought Bran might tell Sansa something productive instead of inducing some PTSD in her. Bit of a dick move that was.
Ser Davos best hype man in Westeros.
After all those titles read out for Dany and he says....
This is Jon Snow..... Oh yeah, hes king in the north. lol.
It'd happen sometimes in Season 1 (Jaime and Cersei at KL and then Winterfell) but for the most part it was recognised when characters were travelling, especially in Seasons 2 and 3 due to the fact that Westeros was basically a warzone. Sometimes characters spent entire seasons travelling.
For the most part it's understandable, and we're obviously expected to know a lot of time passes between different arrivals/departures, but it does feel like it's almost become too easy for someone characters to basically dot about the continent with no difficulty.
Oh yeah, dont get me wrong. I get it must be a bit jarring especially moreso for book readers. I just think if thats the biggest point / complaint somebody can make after an episode, its a bit weird.
Mace Tyrell remained in Highgarden with a host of 10 thousands when Catelyn went to meet with Renly in Season 2. Even if they dispersed the host it's easy enough to raise a few thousands for a garrison in a fortnight or so. Medieval warfare 101.
Stannis with a host of 20k in Season 2 also had troubles taking Storm's End against a garrison of a few hundreds men, which he eventually had to resorted to Mel's belly demon to take. So forgive me for thinking it's not a day's work taking a well manned castle with murder holes, mangonels, boiling oil, arrows raining down on you and trebuchets.
A shame Olenna's gone, one of the best characters on the show.
The girl who was at the door when cersei opened it could be Arya... Just speculating...
'Brutally' is a bit redundant there.
Excellent episode, no complaints. Sand snake girls acting was brilliant
She's heading north, since she was told who was King in the North.
She changed her mind when her dog rejected her.
@InfiniteBoredom Youre a book reader right? It seems like youre getting irked that this isnt playing out how you thought it would or expected it to? It does seem like youre having no fun watching this (or is your fun in watching and posting negative stuff)? 
You know this how? Just because her wolf isn't coming with her, doesn't mean she isn't going north?
Pardon me for being in command of reason and logic.@InfiniteBoredom Youre a book reader right? It seems like youre getting irked that this isnt playing out how you thought it would or expected it to? It does seem like youre having no fun watching this (or is your fun in watching and posting negative stuff)?
I'm a fan of fantasy and historical epics, but I dont require absolute adherence to facts to enjoy a story/film. I had no problem with little anachronisms or historical inaccuracies that have no impact on the cogency of a story, like Gladiator for example. You wont see me complaining about Commodus murdering Marcus Aurelius or the Roman legionnaires using siege weaponry in a forestry-terrain. I however have a big problem with common sense and logistics being subverted entirely for the sake of plot convenience.
When she said "That's not you." to Nymeria I took that to mean she was referring to herself too, as well as a callback to the scene with Ned in season 1.
She's not domesticated, she's off on her own.