Three headed dragon?
Did I imagine it or doesn't Dany mention she needs to find two others to ride her dragons? I might be mistaken though.
Daenerys was coming across quite poorly in her demands. Very good scene though.
Unless the castle was not as strong nor as they actually stated in the show that the troops there were not actually very good.
Think it's only fair that Jon knows first, to be honest. Plus, we all know how people feel about Targaryens in Westeros.
I predict the same miserable posters will watch the next episode, hate it, complain about it, then not have enough logic to stop watching a show that bothers them so much.The trailer for the next episode looks so tasty
Don't worry it's just a limp joke at the expense of some of the writing, with a deliberately bodged spoiler. I haven't read the books.
I wouldn't be surprised if some are upset because you don't have characters starting each scene by saying "It's been three weeks since I *describes what they did the last time we saw them*".I dont get why people still have complaints about time gaps / skips etc. You know its going to happen for the sake of the story, so why is it always a complaint?
We already know its not going to be following real time or even logically matching what we should be expecting. What would happen in real life wont happen in this fantasy world, because, well... time.
I actually liked the Jon Snow and Dany scenes. Neither wanted to give an inch, but ultimately, Tyrion made Dany give something. I have a feeling Jon will use the glass to get evidence of a WW / Undead to show those who have never seen it before.
The Sansa/Bran stuff was good too.
Also good to see Mormont is pretty much fine now. Back to the friendzone he goes
loved the ending as well. A true moment of Cersei / Jamie playing the game of thrones. Give up something for the ultimate win. And a nice throwback to how Jamie was captured by Robb and essentially using the same plan.
Olenna calling Joffrey a cnut and then admitting it was her plan was great stuff.
Indeed. A few seconds of thought and you can logic most of it out.
It's the biggest weakness for the short season. Before when characters traveled places you might see them wearing different clothes or using cryptic language in previous scene - something to at least give you a hint so that an episode later you might see the relation. With 180 minutes less to finish the story arc this year some sacrifices surely have had to be made.
in this episode?And reason. Don't forget that you need reason too!
The ragtag band of green boys and old men Stannis left to man Dragonstone cost Loras Tyrell a thousand men taking the wall and another thousand to storm the castle, Loras himself suffered grievous wounds.
He was having a hard time convincing her about the Night King and White Walkers. If they started talking about him coming back from the dead, she might have thought they were completely mad.
I feel like it's a severe case of people accepting things when GRRM writes it, but not when D&D did. We have (in the books) seen Deepwood Motte fall in a few hours when attacked by surprise by Stannis. If not for the surprise attack by Tywin Lannister, King's Landing would have fallen in one night, despite preperations. Theon Greyjoy took Winterfell with 30 men. So that's alright, but this isn't?
TBH I'm just not feeling it so far this season. Even Jaime's plan was a little too easy. Sure, it wasn't how I thought everything was going to go (taking CR's retinue to Highgarden and leaving the Unsullied stuck without supplies) but once it happened I found myself saying "Yeah... that actually makes sense". GoT is best when you find yourself saying "I would have never thought of that". It used to defy expectations and now it's becoming rather one dimensional.
I don't really have any problems with characters moving fairly quickly, but I think part of the problem is the sudden change in pace in that regard that's happened over the past couple of seasons; back when Jaime had his whole getting his hand chopped off arc it took him about an entire season to get back to KL. Now he's able to travel across the country into enemy territory unchallenged all in the one episode. The Reach is supposed to be a big area...so was there no opposition to siding with the weaker force that doesn't have dragons? None at all?
Dragonstone is a well renowned defensive stronghold, nothing such has been said about Highgarden. In fact, since I remember that you like history, it's not unreasonable to think that a house like the Tyrells, which hasn't faced any serious threat since becoming warden of the south, would not invest as much in the defensive parts of it's seat as other houses. From descriptions, we know of leisure labyrinths between it's walls and such. In fact, it would seem logical as at the end of the high middle ages (which likely accurately descibes the period we are in here, e.g. 15th century) the great families had mostly given up their castles for residences serving adiministrational and representational purposes.
Deepwood Motte is wooden castle with earthen pallisades.
Highgarden wasnt built in a day. It was the seat of House Gardener for thousands of years before the Conquest. It'd be a massive leap of faith to believe that the castle of a great house wouldnt be in the same league as Winterfell, Storm's End, the Eyerie.
Will she end up in a difficult situation where she has no other option left but to attack KL with her dragons and burn everything?
How the hell do you hate Cersei? She is such a good and interesting character. You hate Goffrey and Ramsey's characters not Cersei's.
Her attacking Kings Landing depends on how many men and ships she lost. I think she is forced to ally with Jon Snow now rather than the other way around.
As you said in a different post, some sacrifices have been made.
I thought so to. I would have been disappointed had they got along straight away. THey dont know each other or what the other has been through. And whilst dragons are easier to believe in (heck they have skulls and bones of it around Westeros), WW were still something only a few have actually seen.
Dany if there were no proof of marriage between Lyanna and Rhaegar. Jon otherwise, primogeniture.
As I've said about a hundred million times in this thread, if we'd have gone through the early seasons with a fine tooth comb in the way we have the latter seasons this show never would have become the worldwide blockbuster entertainment smash it is now. The logic of the early seasons is just as questionable as it is now, people just aren't ready to accept it because it's not GRRM doing the work. That's not to say the show is as good as it was between s1-s5, because it isn't, but the cheesy deus ex machina, plot contrivances and inconsistent logic have always, always been a factor. It's part of what makes the show so fun.
