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I am objective both Lukaku and Zlatan scored more than Jesus, Giroud, batshuayi and Son (wide player not a striker btw).It's a dangerous game just 'believing' that you have the best players in every position and ignoring the evidence otherwise! Worth heading over to RAWK if you want an example of how that regularly leads to anger, frustration and despair!
Lukaku and Zlatan are good players. So are Aguero and Jesus. So are Costa and Morata. So are Kane and Son. So are Lacazette and Giroud. Need to be objective!
Yeah, and I answered that too. Btw, it's the best goal I have ever seen too.Probably the best goal I've ever seen BUT the question is about who is the better player right now.
Hmmm....I think it's fair to use two strikers Chelsea actually have, even if one is want-away, if we are going to use one that isn't actually even our player yet!I am objective both Lukaku and Zlatan scored more than Jesus, Giroud, batshuayi and Son (wide player not a striker btw).
Its not Morata and Costa its Morata and Batshuayi. Diego Costa will not go back there and both I rate over Morata anyway.
Lacazette and Giroud... Neither are better than Lukaku or Zlatan I cant believe you included them.
Kane is on par with Lukaku as a striker and Kane doesn't have a strike partner Spurs got rid of Janssen, Son plays as a winger.
Aguero and Jesus are close both good players but unless Aguero kicks his injury spree he has no chance of competing for the Golden boot and being the top player he has previously.
So I have been objective I have thought about my post and I stand by it. A fully fit Zlatan and Lukaku make the best strike force in the league.
You really think Lukaku isn't at the level of last seasons Zlatan? Because that's the question. Remember he easily outscored Zlatan in the league.Yeah, and I answered that too. Btw, it's the best goal I have ever seen too.
It's not as close as I thought but there are quite a few in this thread that are not answering the questions correctly. Evident from comments like "it's been just one game" and "too early to tell". I was hoping to compare the two players not their impact for us.@shamans was this the vast majority disagreeing with me you were hoping for?
Again, I am comparing the players. There is a whole season of Lukaku playing for Everton while Zlatan was ours last year.You can't really ask the question after one game. If Lukaku produces what Zlatan did last year then you can credibly ask for a comparison.
What's the point in comparing them when they were at different clubs ? Should we also compare Lukaku of last year to Ibra in his final year at PSG ?Again, I am comparing the players. There is a whole season of Lukaku playing for Everton while Zlatan was ours last year.
People compare Messi and Ronaldo along with other players at different clubs all the time. I don't understand why it's so surprising.What's the point in comparing them when they were at different clubs ? Should we also compare Lukaku of last year to Ibra in his final year at PSG ?
Eh? Whats the point of comparing two PL football players on a football forum?!What's the point in comparing them when they were at different clubs ? Should we also compare Lukaku of last year to Ibra in his final year at PSG ?
We know its a football forum. That doesn't mean every comparison deserves a poll.Eh? Whats the point of comparing two PL football players on a football forum?!
Two top class strikers who have been leading the line for their team for years. One of them just joined us as well. If you're not going to compare them who would you compareWe know its a football forum. That doesn't mean every comparison deserves a poll.
So is the problem the comparison or the pole? Or both?We know its a football forum. That doesn't mean every comparison deserves a poll.
There isn't a problem. Just making a general observation.So is the problem the comparison or the pole? Or both?
There's lots of hero worshiping when it comes to Zlatan, so don't expect straight answers despite Lukaku out performing him last season for Everton.It's not as close as I thought but there are quite a few in this thread that are not answering the questions correctly. Evident from comments like "it's been just one game" and "too early to tell". I was hoping to compare the two players not their impact for us.
Then we also have some people posting about Zlatan's heroics when he was younger. I want to compare the 35 year old Zlatan with current Lukaku.
The poll might usually have been unnecessary, but it was born out of a discussion Shaman was having in another thread.We know its a football forum. That doesn't mean every comparison deserves a poll.
You drew a direct comparison between Lukaku and Morata! Yet here you are saying you can't compare Zlatan and Lukaku.There isn't a problem. Just making a general observation.
I think Morata is slightly better than Lukaku. Not only do last year's numbers in terms of goals per game bear that out, but the numbers were accrued whilst Morata was largely a sub.
Agreed. Lukaku will have us scratching our heads as to why we didn't see the fit before.This won't even be a conversation by Christmas time.
I didn't attempt a poll on that.You drew a direct comparison between Lukaku and Morata! Yet here you are saying you can't compare Zlatan and Lukaku.
So it's specifically the poll you don't agree with. You're fine with a general comparison?I didn't attempt a poll on that.
Zlaten is what was needed last season to get this team back on the map, now we moving forward in hopefully in a more dynamic way, just hope we don't go back into our shell and play defensive football again. While I am in 2 minds united giving him a new contract, as how long will it take him to get up to speed with the game? who could be a passenger in the team, just because who he is. Maybe he could be like a henrik larsson kind of signing for this team, come in do a job to give us more depth, but I am weary having him back in the team because of the stage of his career, and his big injury could hinder the team, IF, that's a big IF, the team is playing a dynamic brand of attacking football, because we know Mourinho can set us up with the team going back into their shell, if we get a bleeding nose in some gamesI think Lukaku will give us more of a presence in the box. Lukaku's second goal on Sunday for example. I don't recall Zlatan scoring many like that, Zlatan whilst tall isn't a target man, he prefers to play deep and is more inclined to score a volley/overhead kick/backheel flick as opposed to bullying a defender and scoring a header.
Whilst I love Zlatan and for years wanted him as I would imagine Zlatan's flair under SAF would be orgasmic, I truly believe Lukaku is a better fit for what we need now. Lukaku might not score as many fancy goals like Zlatan but if he can score a few goals like his second against West Ham then teams will defend differently against which in turn will open up the wide players and our midfielders to be more creative and daring.
Last year with Zlatan, we had too many people who wanted to play the ball and play deep, which meant teams just defended deep and organised to frustrate us....I imagine teams will disrupt their block to cope with Lukaku and that will lead to the chances for the rest of the team that I mentioned above.
We need options and if Lukaku was to be injured I don't think either Rashford or Martial will give us the number of goals we need. However I don't think Ibra would re-sign to sit on the bench and play back up.Zlaten is what was needed last season to get this team back on the map, now we moving forward in hopefully in a more dynamic way, just hope we don't go back into our shell and play defensive football again. While I am in 2 minds united giving him a new contract, as how long will it take him to get up to speed with the game? who could be a passenger in the team, just because who he is. Maybe he could be like a henrik larsson kind of signing for this team, come in do a job to give us more depth, but I am weary having him back in the team because of the stage of his career, and his big injury could hinder the team, IF, that's a big IF, the team is playing a dynamic brand of attacking football, because we know Mourinho can set us up with the team going back into their shell, if we get a bleeding nose in some games
Rashford can easily fill in the no9 role, he's proven he can. Martial is an inside forward that is improving, you can see its in his game. But in this day and age the manager cannot keep worrying what if that is injured, you can only play 11 players, and lukaku is not injury prone, so the thought of him getting injured is not something we have to worry about. With us playing 4231 we have flexibility in our options, the only true area we are light on is fullbacks, I be more worried with losing valencia to injury than lukaku. If I was Jose Mourinho, be on the look out for another LB, if he has not got much faith in luke shawWe need options and if Lukaku was to be injured I don't think either Rashford or Martial will give us the number of goals we need. However I don't think Ibra would re-sign to sit on the bench and play back up.
And equally you'll have voters overly excited about Lukakus part in a single dominant win. You only have to go back to the beginning of preseason to see overly harsh criticism of Lukaku after his first two games. Either way it's plain to see the vast majority of members do not disagree with me.It's not as close as I thought but there are quite a few in this thread that are not answering the questions correctly. Evident from comments like "it's been just one game" and "too early to tell". I was hoping to compare the two players not their impact for us.
Then we also have some people posting about Zlatan's heroics when he was younger. I want to compare the 35 year old Zlatan with current Lukaku.
Yes. Vast majority does not. Have to say I am surprised by it.And equally you'll have voters overly excited about Lukakus part in a single dominant win. You only have to go back to the beginning of preseason to see overly harsh criticism of Lukaku after his first two games. Either way it's plain to see the vast majority of members do not disagree with me.