MJJ
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So if he dresses like yao ming, you would expect him to color his skin yellow and slant his eyes? C'mon now.Yeah kinda, 75% of NBA players are black. When most people think of a basketball player they think of a black person.
So if he dresses like yao ming, you would expect him to color his skin yellow and slant his eyes? C'mon now.Yeah kinda, 75% of NBA players are black. When most people think of a basketball player they think of a black person.
I'm saying a person wouldn't be prompted to even think of googling this if he genuinely thinks it isn't offensive/racist.Is coloring my face racist/offensive?
What a stupid thing to say, you can use this argument to give weight to any negative stereotypeYeah kinda, 75% of NBA players are black. When most people think of a basketball player they think of a black person.
Judging by this thread it seems 6/10 think he’s not racist but 7/10 think he is.
When you saw the term in the title of this thread you should google it before posting.Right let me put it this way ffs. If someone isn't aware of the term blackface (like myself), and thinks dressing up as a black basketball star isn't racist, then what exactly am I googling?
Yeah, I'm not sure why people that clearly aren't well-informed would bother getting involved without doing some research. Entering a conversation on a sensitive topic without proper knowledge is just asking for trouble. Using ignorance as an excuse afterwards doesn't really make sense as nobody forced you to comment. Would someone enter a maths competition with no preparation and then be surprised when they fail?I agree with you man. I'm just disappointed at comments from people saying 'I don't find this racist' about something clearly not about them. Also at the people who not only can't see why painting your skin dark in this context could be racist but can't even look up online why this could be offensive instead of posting they don't understand. I'm not offended by this on a personal level myself, but I am empathetic towards people who would be because I know why. Ignorance is dumb (Griezmann) but then to see even more ignorance after he has been called out.. that is just pathetic.
EDIT: Yes move this please the thread changed
So are you saying we are just lying for the sake of it? I have just asked my wife and she too wasn't aware.I find it hard to believe there are people in these times that aren't aware of it tbh,
We are talking about this because of the first thing that he is famous. If someone we are not expected to sign like say Kroos or Modric did this we would still be talking about this.Well, surely we are only discussing it because a) he’s famous and b) we might sign him.
I’m sure loads of footballers do stuff like this every day but we never mention it on here.
The fecking term wasn't in the title in the previous thread smart arse.When you saw the term in the title of this thread you should google it before posting.
In fact is very simple.
See my yao ming example above, he can dress up as his favourite basketball player without coloring his skin/face.I'm saying a person wouldn't be prompted to even think of googling this if he genuinely thinks it isn't offensive/racist.
I repent this error.The white mamba should never be in the same sentence as anyone else.
He is above all.
Can you reply without name calling(like a mature person)?The fecking term wasn't in the title in the previous thread smart arse.
Who needed to?Who appointed you the grand elder of all black people?
Not really sure how anyone can say without confidence that this isn’t racist.The act of doing it with the knowledge of it's history makes it racist, blacking up without the knowledge of it just makes him thick as two blanks. I don't think AG really understood what he was doing, or rather didn't think through the connotations - he's not exactly known for his intellect. People are right to be offended by it, but I dont think it makes him racist.
When someone comes in the thread being a smart arse with me, I'll tell them. Fact is you have tried to be a smart arse with me, have you not?Can you reply without name calling(like a mature person)?
Can you read the rules? You supposed to reply the post, not attack the poster.
"When you saw the term in the title of this thread you should google it before posting.
In fact is very simple."
Depends on what you weren't aware of. If you're unfamiliar with the term itself, fair enough. If you had no idea that, in the past, white actors were used to portray black individuals as black people were seen as too inferior to be used as actors, I'd be honestly surprised.So are you saying we are just lying for the sake of it? I have just asked my wife and she too wasn't aware.
Not checked if anyone has explained it to you:Why is this considered racist?
Weak reply. Hey, good thing about the internet is you'll be humbled. I'll give you another L, but this time I'll educate you, too.
Essentially, in the early 19th century, Blackface was used in minstrel shows by white people to portray black "characters" (why hire black actors when you can use Blackface?). Performances were built on stereotypes. Stereotypes like the black man who always has his eyes on white women (buck for example). Everything was dumbed down... Black people were portrayed as hypersexual, aggressive, lazy, ignorant, and thieves. So no, comparing it to white chicks or whatever other nonsense is not the same thing, that's false equivalency. Which is why I came for your neck.
Blackface isn't just makeup or shoe polish; it isn't paying homage to your favourite athlete; it's a tool that was introduced to degrade and demean black people. If you feel indignant when Blackface is referred to as racist, then you have a lot of learning and growing up to do.
It doesn't matter what your intention is, when the thing you are doing is racist.
You should also read this (quote from the article below).
"The ability to be ignorant, to be unaware of the history and consequences of racial bigotry, to simply do as one pleases, is a quintessential element of privilege. The ability to disparage, to demonize, to ridicule, and to engage in racially hurtful practices from the comfort of one's segregated neighborhoods and racially homogeneous schools reflects both privilege and power. The ability to blame others for being oversensitive, for playing the race card, or for making much ado about nothing are privileges codified structurally and culturally."
And this.
You're welcome.
Why did he dress up as david dickinson?
With the way you were writing, it looked like you were speaking on behalf of all black people. Your skin is unique to you, and black people come in all types of skin tones. Some black people are not offended by blackface, sometimes because they have a high tolerance, others because it is not culturally relevant. You have every right to be offended and call it racist like it is.Who needed to?
The bloke has practically immersed himself in black culture, but is himself racist? I don't think so, it just doesn't make any sense, especially posting it on social media for all to see.Not really sure how anyone can say without confidence that this isn’t racist.
At the very least this is ignorant by him and shows a lack of awareness.
However he’s fully involved and intertwined within NBA and hip hop culture - you can’t be that ignorant while participating in the culture.
Genuinely didn't know.Depends on what you weren't aware of. If you're unfamiliar with the term itself, fair enough. If you had no idea that, in the past, white actors were used to portray black individuals as black people were seen as too inferior to be used as actors, I'd be honestly surprised.
It doesn't, just an idiot.What is racist in this? All I've seen is him dressed as a black basket ball player. I don't think that means he's racist?
Thanks for that. This post has educated me on the matter more than anything else in this thread.Not checked if anyone has explained it to you:
I wrote my opinion on the subject that’s all.With the way you were writing, it looked like you were speaking on behalf of all black people. Your skin is unique to you, and black people come in all types of skin tones. Some black people are not offended by blackface, sometimes because they have a high tolerance, others because it is not culturally relevant. You have every right to be offended and call it racist like it is.
He himself is not racist no.The bloke has practically immersed himself in black culture, but is himself racist? I don't think so, it just doesn't make any sense, especially posting it on social media for all to see.
I agree it's ignorant, incredibly ignorant, but I do not believe it to be racist.
Yeah. Cause that's the problem in this story.So much drama in the social media driven world, his two best mates are black, I'm sure Pogba will be defending him come tomorrow.
Fairly sure if you walked around like that in the real world you'd quickly piss some people off. Though you likely wouldn't walk around like that as you probably know it's a very ignorant thing to do. Hardly a social media thing.So much drama in the social media driven world, his two best mates are black, I'm sure Pogba will be defending him come tomorrow.
English is not my first language, but that bold part sounds childish and offensive tbh.When someone comes in the thread being a smart arse with me, I'll tell them. Fact is you have tried to be a smart arse with me, have you not?