Mourinho : "Transfer spend is not enough"

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What are you going on about? Everyone on here was shouting for a CB and now saying we do not need one. Crazy how people have short term memories.

We had to start Blind as a CB in the Europa league final due to all the injuries we had towards the end of last season.

His mistake was not getting rid of Blind and Darmian. Then using the money to sign a proper fullback.
Im saying why spend that money and not play him? Yes it takes time to get used to the PL however you only get that with games. Darmian has been useful this season and Blind is a useful squad player, should perhaps play more in midfield.
 

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Moyes did no damage to the squad except to not get stuck into rebuilding the squad when he took the job. I would accept that a lot of LVG's signings were poor but at least he had the cojones to overhaul the squad which won two trophies with just three players added to it. Moyes innocence and lack of understanding of what was required set Utd back one season but to say he destroyed MU is patent nonsense.
Him not rebuilding was damaging. Squad management was poor under both Moyes and especially van gaal and we are paying for it now. Van gaal bought a bunch of average or shit players and a top talent in Martial. The complete waste on other players negates that though. fecking Depay and Schneiderlin. Have a laugh.
 

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Im saying why spend that money and not play him? Yes it takes time to get used to the PL however you only get that with games. Darmian has been useful this season and Blind is a useful squad player, should perhaps play more in midfield.
Darmian has been only useful for the opposition. Blind rarely plays. This is the issue people want to hang onto squad utility players and when Blind comes in for someone like Young our attack looks crap because attacking wise he lets us down.
 

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When Mourinho wants players we MUST trust him. He is trying to undo all the fecking garbage van gaal did along with his shit signings. This is why us failing to sign Perisic disappointed me so much. Same goes for trusting him when he wanted Matic.
 

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Him not rebuilding was damaging. Squad management was poor under both Moyes and especially van gaal and we are paying for it now. Van gaal bought a bunch of average or shit players and a top talent in Martial. The complete waste on other players negates that though. fecking Depay and Schneiderlin. Have a laugh.
I think the problem was the takeover, it had to be financed and he only way to do that was through the club.
 

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Blind and Darmian are probably gone after this season. Same way Pep got rid of Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov etc. We are behind city in development and we need to keep spending. We need players to win the league. Not the shiteband average van gaal signed which will only get us top 4.
 

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Darmian has been only useful for the opposition. Blind rarely plays. This is the issue people want to hang onto squad utility players and when Blind comes in for someone like Young our attack looks crap because attacking wise he lets us down.
Blind is technically very good. Him in a 3 man midfield in away games would help us retain possession and allow other midfielder to get forward. Especially considering our lack of options in that area.
 

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I think the problem was the takeover, it had to be financed and he only way to do that was through the club.
Either way, people need to wake up. Blind, Darmian, Herreta etc are NOT good enough. Pep got rid of shite like Nolito, Sagna etc as well. Van Gaal wasted so much time and money it's infuriating.
 

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Simple. Jose inherited an above average team with one world class player compared to the team up the road. Also that the landscape has completely changed since those lot were spending that oil money. If they were buying the equivalent now, would be a billion quid. Equally everyone's got money which makes the market inflated.

This team needs a major overal with easily 5-6 starters needed.....
 

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He has to be ruthless. Sell deadwoods and stop over rating average players like fellaini. It's comical how we are begging a donkey like fellaini to sign a contract. That shows how far we have fallen. This is the same club who said feck off to the likes of Beckham, RVN, tevez and almost sold rooney as he was keeping the club on ransom but now are begging fellaini to sign a contract.
Damned right. So much mediocrity.
 

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Blind is technically very good. Him in a 3 man midfield in away games would help us retain possession and allow other midfielder to get forward. Especially considering our lack of options in that area.
He was woeful in midfield last week. His slow and not really special on the ball. He doesn’t offer much physically.

He needs to be moved on.
 

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He embraces the squad because that is what he has. He cannot just relace everyone. You say you dont think Perisic will work. Well to be quite frank that's just your opinion and Mourinho is way more qualified than you are. No offence.

De bruyne had been doing great things in Germany. Sterling had already challenged for the title with Liverpool. Those were signed just before pep arrived. Now compare it to all the garbage van gaal bought. Even the better signings like Blind and Herrera are not championship level. Now you can see the gulf in what the two managers were working with.
Of course, he is way more qualified than me. But again, I stated, I don't believe Perisic has ever played a prominent wing-back role. So I don't know if his arrival would have made much difference. Mourinho is more qualified than anyone on this forum, but he is not perfect with his transfers.

De Bruyne was very good in the Bundesliga, but he was inconsistent in his 1st Prem season. Sterling did star in that Pool team that was firing, but his 1st season at City, he was labeled a waste of money. He was made a mockery of.

No denying Van Gaal bought some garbage, but let's not change the script and say that City had a FAR better starting point. There was no "gulf" imo. Maybe they had a better starting point, and I'll concede that, because of their far superior GD in 2015-2016. Jose came in and wanted 4 players for the title. Got all 4 and the squad didn't perform up to standard.
 

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He always calculates his quotes, he wants some good money in January and knows the glazers current budget, he is trying pressure them.
Yeah, I hope so. Given our revenue, we could spend 250m and be making a profit.
 

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probably is looking for a decent budget in January, cant blame him really when we are competing with City who seem to have unlimited funds to spend. Either way Jose generally gets it right with his signings and at least if it doesn't he buys players who have a resale value. He has had money to spend and the figures seem large but since SAF left, we have changed our squad so much. We have had Moyes as a manager who was a fan of the route one sort of football, lots of crosses and longer balls. Then we had LVG who enjoyed more technical play and more passing and possession. Now we are back to Jose who likes big strong players who can play direct at a quick pace.We haven't followed a pattern with our signings at all, that is probably the reason why every manager we have chops and changes the squad is because they all want to play a different style to what we previously had. We need to trust jose on this and see where it takes us.
 

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Imagine the price tags that clubs will slap on their everything, from fullback to ball boy, after that announcement.
 

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He had to buy Pogba for a huge fee. Lukaku was the only striker available in the market. It was either that or go strikerless into the new season.

He has by and large bought well. Like Guardiola did with Nolito and Bravo, he has made a mistake in buying Mkhi. Now we need to see whether he, like Guardiola, will be given the cash to rectify the mistake, and whether he will buy wisely now.
Morata? Wasnt he going to sign him? Bellotti? There were plenty other strikers worldwide he could of gone for so thats a load of crap. No disrespect to you.
 

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It's not his fault van gaal signed some complete garbage. He had to use a lot of money to get in Lukaku and Pogba. There are still gaps in the squad. That is why people should trust him when he goes after players like Perisic and Matic.
I agree that some of our signings under LvG were garbage. However we’ve spent so much money on Lukaku and Pogba as you mention but can you honestly say that we’ve managed to get the best out of them? What’s concerning is that even after all that outlay we’re still trying to fit square pegs into round holes. Pogba is playing slightly deeper than his natural position, Lukaku is starved of quality service which forces him to drop deeper or go out wide to get the ball, Lingard is playing as a number 10 while Mata is forced out wide, Rashford is played on the left wing when he’s time and again showed that he doesn’t have the decision making or dribbling ability to flourish in that position. It just feels like we’re very much a work in progress even after £300 million. If we spend another £100-200 million, are we going to get into a state where we can be happy? I still have some lingering doubts.
 

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I think this is obvious we need more investment. To win the league vs Pep we're going to need at least 90 points next season and the current squad isn't capable of that.
 

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Nah not for me. He looks like he doesn't want his job and can't wait for the next one. Plus he is living away from his family - lost his dad this year too which only makes things harder.

I can remember a lot of his Chelsea press conferences / after match comments and he's never sounded this low.
I'd say as recently as the Arsenal match he sounded quite lighthearted, for him. Bad run since, including seeing the title chase disappear, and he's been understandably glum. Not excusing it, just not surprised and I don't think it means he's looking for a way out. If he wanted that, there's certainly easier ways than asking for more investment from the owners. I still believe this is where he wants to be. Given how he likely views things - that we're 18 months into his MUFC rebuild with 2 trophies won, in 2nd place in the PL and through in the CL, yet he's talked of as a past-it dinosaur - I can see why he'd get visibly annoyed.

Compare the way people talk about Poch and Klopp, for example, who've won nothing in that period, while he gets almost exclusively judged against Pep.
 

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Blind is technically very good. Him in a 3 man midfield in away games would help us retain possession and allow other midfielder to get forward. Especially considering our lack of options in that area.
This is what needs to stop. He isn't good enough to win the league against this City side. This is why there is a gulf between the two clubs. These are average players who will get top 4 and thats it. Yeah Delph is doing a job but you're damn right if you think Pep isnt going to try to sign another LB in the summer.
Of course, he is way more qualified than me. But again, I stated, I don't believe Perisic has ever played a prominent wing-back role. So I don't know if his arrival would have made much difference. Mourinho is more qualified than anyone on this forum, but he is not perfect with his transfers.

De Bruyne was very good in the Bundesliga, but he was inconsistent in his 1st Prem season. Sterling did star in that Pool team that was firing, but his 1st season at City, he was labeled a waste of money. He was made a mockery of.

No denying Van Gaal bought some garbage, but let's not change the script and say that City had a FAR better starting point. There was no "gulf" imo. Maybe they had a better starting point, and I'll concede that, because of their far superior GD in 2015-2016. Jose came in and wanted 4 players for the title. Got all 4 and the squad didn't perform up to standard.
Yes there was a gulf. Half of what Mourinho spent is just on two players to match what cuty already had in Aguero and De Bruyne. Pep then went and spent even more on top of that. Mourinho is navigating with some of the shite left behind by van gaal. He will get rid of more this summer and sign top players. I am talking about players like Savic and Ozil. Players who are at the required level. There is a difference between pep being left Sterling and Jose being left depay. Or pep being left fernandinho and jose being left schneiderlin. We were behind then and are behind now.

Jose was left with Herrera, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Fellaini ffs. Pep still had Silva and de bruyne. He still had Fernandinho, he still had the yaya option. He could then go and sign gundogan on top. Jose had to go out and spend on Matic and Pogba to try match up.
 

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Morata? Wasnt he going to sign him? Bellotti? There were plenty other strikers worldwide he could of gone for so thats a load of crap. No disrespect to you.
Board weren't willing to pay 90 million for Morata. I am with you, he's a million times better and it is likely he was Jose's first choice. I doubt Jose's opinion of Lukaku has changed since he let him go when they were at Chelsea.

Belotti I have no idea. Maybe Jose didn't think he would be good. But for sure, Morata was our first choice. That in itself shows what a poor market it was for strikers.
 

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Of course, he is way more qualified than me. But again, I stated, I don't believe Perisic has ever played a prominent wing-back role. So I don't know if his arrival would have made much difference. Mourinho is more qualified than anyone on this forum, but he is not perfect with his transfers.

De Bruyne was very good in the Bundesliga, but he was inconsistent in his 1st Prem season. Sterling did star in that Pool team that was firing, but his 1st season at City, he was labeled a waste of money. He was made a mockery of.


No denying Van Gaal bought some garbage, but let's not change the script and say that City had a FAR better starting point. There was no "gulf" imo. Maybe they had a better starting point, and I'll concede that, because of their far superior GD in 2015-2016. Jose came in and wanted 4 players for the title. Got all 4 and the squad didn't perform up to standard.
Then surely this is just making the job Pep is doing even more impressive. :(
 

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Perhaps he either knows the writings on the wall for him, or he wants out, so by once again blaming everything but himself, he can leave and blame it on the board. City, maybe Chelsea aside we have spent the most money on players over the last 5 years, and still nowhere looking like a stable team, with an identity.
 

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I believe pep has admitted to being a check book manager as well.
If you want to be at the highest level, you will need to use the checkbook. The real test is what you do with it.
 

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It’s typically obtuse Jose-speak but isn’t the main gist of his rant that the journo is telling him our recent points haul isn’t good enough for a “big club” but he doesn’t think our squad is worthy of such a status. We’ve got the status of a big club but not the squad. Which seems fair enough when you compare us to the likes of Madrid, City, Bayern or PSG.

Then the “not enough” comment is saying that, no matter how much we have spent, it’s still not enough to have built this hypothetical “big club squad” yet. Again, this is stating the bleeding obvious, surely?

Whether or not he should be getting more out of our current squad is a different argument. I happen to think he should and it’s a worry that he isn’t. That said, nothing he’s said in the OP is particularly outrageous. Though that won’t stop people getting outraged.
 

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Then surely this is just making the job Pep is doing even more impressive. :(
I think this is the main problem. While City have made some good purchases, it's their internal player improvement that's the biggest driver behind their success imo. The likes of Sterling, De Bruyne, Fernandinho, Silva(yes even Silva), all have gone up a level under Pep's guidance.

And on Mourinho's point about City's fullbacks, their 1st choice LB is Delph at the moment. Delph.
 

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Blind is technically very good. Him in a 3 man midfield in away games would help us retain possession and allow other midfielder to get forward. Especially considering our lack of options in that area.
Blind was awful in the midfield last week, he has a good game now and then but doesn't seem quite up to this level.
 

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Morata? Wasnt he going to sign him? Bellotti? There were plenty other strikers worldwide he could of gone for so thats a load of crap. No disrespect to you.
I believe it is rubbish that Lukaku was the first choice. He wanted Morata, Morata thought he was coming here. He didn't rate Lukaku when he had him as a kid and never made an attempt to keep him at Chelsea. Bellotti price was seriously ridiculous. Unfortunately Real played silly sods and we got left with Lukaku. To be fair I am not sure how well Morata would fare with some of the service here, but he would try to get on the end of things and try to make something happen. He does try to move around. It is only fairly recently that it has dawned on anyone that Ashley can do a job at fullback. Up to then any striker would be starved of service, but when that happens you have to try and initiate something yourself.
 

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If you want to be at the highest level, you will need to use the checkbook. The real test is what you do with it.
Exactly,I don't really care how much Jose spends as long as progress is being made
 

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I think this is the main problem. While City have made some good purchases, it's their internal player improvement that's the biggest driver behind their success imo. The likes of Sterling, De Bruyne, Fernandinho, Silva(yes even Silva), all have gone up a level under Pep's guidance.

And on Mourinho's point about City's fullbacks, their 1st choice LB is Delph at the moment. Delph.
He has got Delph playing, but he knew he needed fullbacks and has just gone and got them. When Mendy is back with Walker, it will be some unit. We have known for ages that Valencia is now incapable of playing a number of consecutive games and that LB has been a big problem, but have let ourselves blow big chunks of our budgets on a couple of players without addressing other needs.
 

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Perhaps he either knows the writings on the wall for him, or he wants out, so by once again blaming everything but himself, he can leave and blame it on the board. City, maybe Chelsea aside we have spent the most money on players over the last 5 years, and still nowhere looking like a stable team, with an identity.
3 years of damage under Van Gaal and Moyes will take time to repair. Some of the players that were here weren't good enough to win the title and were only good enough to challenge for top 4. That's the truth. Mourinho needs to get rid of them and fix things. That takes time and money.

In his second season we are second. Behind a city team we were already behind anyway.
 

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It's amazing how the players we sign are the best for their respective teams and arrive here and turn to shite....hmmmm