Mourinho : "Transfer spend is not enough"

[mike bird]

I think most would agree

Speak for yourself, most of the people love Jose. Thats the real feeling I am getting at OT. Come to watch us some time, you will change your mind about what people think about Jose.

I love him being miserable and pissed off, cause that means he cares about winning. He hates losing with a passion and does not hide his feelings. He speaks his mind.

What did the other dude expect, Jose loses a game and dances and laughs like a clown?

Some people yeah? Armchair pundits, never played football probably.

 

[Jazz]

It's worth remember for the first time in his career Mourinho is the one who NEEDS a football club and has his begging bowl out more than we need him. Hence why he's backtracked on his "club not spent enough money" line.

He knows he can't rock the boat too much as he doesn't have the stock (sacked by both top clubs Real Madrid and Chelsea and splits opinion amongst the core hardcore supporters of United), and this is why you see the miserable, drained and whiny Mourinho. He isn't 100% himself because he has to watch everything he says/does because he doesn't have the power to survive a "eye-gouging" incident for example. He's the Theresa May of football managers currently !

It's fascinating to see how Mourinho reacts as this is the first time he's faced such pressure (not been the top dogs in terms of spending money, been the one who needs the club more than they need him, not been the media darling in England like Pep is now etc). I think he's struggling with the hottest of hot seats in football management currently.

PSG is his easy route out at the end of the season, without facing another embarrassing sacking on his CV in his 3rd season at a club (which is infamously his worse).

Either Pep and Man City will run him out of Manchester or the fans will. This will end in tears and we all know it.

I'll just comment on this bit. It is absolutely true. I believe the club should use this to their advantage and get him to agree on changing his coaching methods with regards to our attacking. I really would try to get him to agree to hiring some proven coaches to come in and help with that aspect.

What's he gonna do? He has to evolve in order to survive this. Even if PSG wanted him (which I'm sceptical about), he still needs to evolve. No way is Neymar & Co going to put up with his current methods.

His best bet therefore is to change asap, or it's not gonna work for him here or anywhere else.

 

[Dobbs]

People need to re-read this post. It’s spot on.

Wave upon wave of niggly comments all across threads from the same posters.

From youth setup to main squad and behind the scenes, we were a mess since fergie left (and even the last 2 years with fergie). RvP papered over a huge crack.

Clubs close by have developed and advanced greatly, with a clear vision and direction without managers involvement. Our club has dallied on so many levels, happy with brand values rather than the core foundation of football at the club.

Expecting Jose to come in and fix this shithouse of a squad and setup behind the scenes by now is utterly mind bending.

Still a core squad of average players. Other managers have come in to turn-key squads with a board willing to push on. Jose has had, and still has, a battle going on to get investment and trust.

“Jose out” brigade would want to have a right look at themselves. Far greater things going on that just Jose. Yes he is human and got things wrong and contributed to some poor results, but we still 5 or 6 players away from reasonable dept. another summer of 3 in means we will still be off the pace for sure. Managers don’t like losing or falling behind. Pep as we saw before gets abrupt and picks his nose in post match interviews when a game hasn’t gone his way (well....last season since they are running away this year). Strong willed managers in anger, shock!

Time to wake up and realize the bigger issues, and getting in some other “yes-man” manager the board would only go for would put us back into “no value in the market” territory and even further behind.

Jose is the manager the current crop of United fans don’t deserve.

Spot on? You think we play better attacking football than Liverpool and Spurs?

Lots of paragraphs doesn't equal quality.

 

[Phil Osophy]

I'll just comment on this bit. It is absolutely true. I believe the club should use this to their advantage and get him to agree on changing his coaching methods with regards to our attacking. I really would try to get him to agree to hiring some proven coaches to come in and help with that aspect.

What's he gonna do? He has to evolve in order to survive this. Even if PSG wanted him (which I'm sceptical about), he still needs to evolve. No way is Neymar & Co going to put up with his current methods.

His best bet therefore is to change asap, or it's not gonna work for him here or anywhere else.

This is one of the biggest offences that we could do to Mourinho, or any other manager. If anyone at the club tried to do this, the war would be declared the following second.

The problem with Mourinho isn't that he doesn't know how to coach attack. He's an old fox and knows this game very well. He's simply not interested, because his short term approach means that his tactics are mainly conservative, and also dependant on the opposition. He coaches his team to win the next game, he's not interested in developing his own patterns to use them every weekend.

With all this on the table, suggesting him an offensive coach would be like calling him stupid on his face. Even if we did with good intentions, for him it would be the end. If we signed Jose to get instant results then the club has to let him coach with his people, the way he wants. If at some point they're not pleased with football, results, the atmosphere around the club or any other thing, then part ways with him or accept what we got. Interfering is not an option.

 

[L1nk]

If we are 5-6 players away from a decent department why the hell are we splurging so much money on very few players, i understand maybe we didnt invest as well as we should of at the end of Fergie's reign and beyond, but Mourinho has had money to spend. I present a list of players that moved clubs between 2016 and 2017 and the prices they went for.

Timo Werner - £9mill
Julian Draxler - £35mill
James Rodriguez - £50/60mill
Ruben Neves - £16mill
[Irrelevant point] - £20mill
Davinson Sanchez - £4mill to Ajax
Thomas Meunier - £5mill
Miralem Pjanic - £30mill
Ilkay Gundogan - £25mill
Benjamin Mendy - £13mill to Monaco
Antonio Rudiger - £7mill to Roma

I could go on.

Even if we managed to somehow buy all of them in 2016 and 2017 whilst shipping deadwood out the transfer spend would be extremely low, but we don't seem interested whenever a player that could really fill a gap for us appears to be buyable. Maybe this coming summer with Ribalta might be different but something is not right, i would never in my life think about spending 75million on Lukaku, he gets goals but is entirely limited in nearly every other aspect of his game, its crazy. You can claim the market has changed, and it has, to a degree, but you can see from my list that high quality players at low prices are still available and that most of them would of gone a long way to filling gaps in our squad that after 2 windows we still have.

 

[Jazz]

This is one of the biggest offences that we could do to Mourinho, or any other manager. If anyone at the club tried to do this, the war would be declared the following second.

The problem with Mourinho isn't that he doesn't know how to coach attack. He's an old fox and knows this game very well. He's simply not interested, because his short term approach means that his tactics are mainly conservative, and also dependant on the opposition. He coaches his team to win the next game, he's not interested in developing his own patterns to use them every weekend.

With all this on the table, suggesting him an offensive coach would be like calling him stupid on his face. Even if we did with good intentions, for him it would be the end. If we signed Jose to get instant results then the club has to let him coach with his people, the way he wants. If at some point they're not pleased with football, results, the atmosphere around the club or any other thing, then part ways with him or accept what we got. Interfering is not an option.

I hear what you're saying and ordinarily I'd agree with you. However, with current circumstances, are you saying we should remain passive instead of trying to get him 'interested' in sorting out our biggest issue at the moment?
If he continues like this, with no results as such we'd be imploding before the end of the season. That means no top 4, sponsors in a pickle, shareholders fecked off, morale low, transfer targets deciding to swerve us. All sorts of negative things are on the table for us. Therefore I would take the chance to have a word with him. It all depends on how you approach him.

And frankly (and I suspect he knows it too), he's pretty much run out of options to manage clubs in the top tier (PSG ain't putting up with his methods). He needs to change something, and I believe that can be used to our advantage.

In any case, it won't happen.

 

[edgar allan]

Weaker teams? No team is considered weak anymore in PL. This is not xbox, all teams fighting every single game like its a final. Man City almost lost yesterday, to what you may consider weak team, do they need to sack Pep? Arsenal drew against W. Brom. All these weak teams as you call them, they can play and they can cause damage. Heck, I can see Burnley in the CL, I really do.

Fair enough, I should have said I wish we could string a couple of passes together against any team over the last 2 months.

 

[edgar allan]

Speak for yourself, most of the people love Jose. Thats the real feeling I am getting at OT. Come to watch us some time, you will change your mind about what people think about Jose.

I love him being miserable and pissed off, cause that means he cares about winning. He hates losing with a passion and does not hide his feelings. He speaks his mind.

What did the other dude expect, Jose loses a game and dances and laughs like a clown?

Some people yeah? Armchair pundits, never played football probably.

I don't know who you are talking to at the games because my experience is that most are far from happy with his tactics and antics,

 

[smallred]

to put things into perspective, as it stands based off money spent so far and projected incomes we have spent about 26% of our income on new players.

Liverpool are now up around 44% and City at 42%...thats the standard being set now.

we are paying now for about 8 years worth of sh8t recruitment by Fergie, Moyes and LVG. fergie left us with a squad that he thought would dominate for a decade and it was absolutely awful once they were exposed.

we got rid of players like Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Valencia, Owen, Obertan. that is there it all started and we are still paying for it.

and then there was LVG wasiting 300m on by and large, absolute rubbish.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Have we signed anyone yet ?

 

[minoo-utd]

We have injuries long injuries and lots of players we need to offload we should be signing someone.

 

[Mastadon]

I'm finding it delightfully ironic that Mourinho was calling Wenger a specialist in failure when Wenger had 10% of his budget and now he's moaning about the lack of spending despite having massive financial funding over the last couple of seasons with more to come in the next. He's not the same brilliant untouchable manager who managed Porto, Chelsea and Inter. Real Madrid broke him and despite winning the league with Chelsea he lost the dressing room and was near the bottom of the table when he was finally sacked. United might well be his last gig if he fails there he will prob end up managing Portugal unless PSG are going to give him a job.

 

[Phil Osophy]

I hear what you're saying and ordinarily I'd agree with you. However, with current circumstances, are you saying we should remain passive instead of trying to get him 'interested' in sorting out our biggest issue at the moment?
If he continues like this, with no results as such we'd be imploding before the end of the season. That means no top 4, sponsors in a pickle, shareholders fecked off, morale low, transfer targets deciding to swerve us. All sorts of negative things are on the table for us. Therefore I would take the chance to have a word with him. It all depends on how you approach him.

And frankly (and I suspect he knows it too), he's pretty much run out of options to manage clubs in the top tier (PSG ain't putting up with his methods). He needs to change something, and I believe that can be used to our advantage.

In any case, it won't happen.

Yes, I agree in the overall picture, but I don't see any margin to make him change. He's too proud of himself and at the same time, I don't think it would be a massive loss for him to lose this job. I can't see anyway the likes of Woodward or anyone from the club telling Mourinho how to manage the team or doing any suggestions. We lack football figures at the club, and people with knowledge and character to have a pair of words. And like I said, hiring an assistant is not an option.

It looks like every time there's more closed doors for him in football, but with a bit of patience surely he can find a good club again. If not, he can become a national team coach. This is more relaxed, so his current lack of energy wouldn't be a problem. He would have more time for his family, and his conservative short term approach could fit very well for tournaments like the World Cup or the European tournament. I can see him managing Portugal or England in a few years.

 

[breakout67]

Jose Mourinho would walk into the Inter Job, and would most likely be given a stab at the Madrid job again now that the old guard are on their way out (CR7, Ramos, Modric, Benzema).

He'd also get the PSG and Bayern job easily; the only reason he hasnt is because he himself prefers the PL due to a higher salary and more competitive league.

 

[Jazz]

Yes, I agree in the overall picture, but I don't see any margin to make him change. He's too proud of himself and at the same time, I don't think it would be a massive loss for him to lose this job. I can't see anyway the likes of Woodward or anyone from the club telling Mourinho how to manage the team or doing any suggestions. We lack football figures at the club, and people with knowledge and character to have a pair of words. And like I said, hiring an assistant is not an option.

It looks like every time there's more closed doors for him in football, but with a bit of patience surely he can find a good club again. If not, he can become a national team coach. This is more relaxed, so his current lack of energy wouldn't be a problem. He would have more time for his family, and his conservative short term approach could fit very well for tournaments like the World Cup or the European tournament. I can see him managing Portugal or England in a few years.

All you say is true to some extent. However, I disagree that it wouldn't be a massive loss for him. With that ego, he won't like that for the rest of his life he'll be known as the man that Pep ran out of town. He would never live that down, and that would affect every other job he has imho.
Plus he might go to Italy etc, but all eyes are on the Premier League at this moment - he'd out of the 'spotlight' and I don't think he'd like that one bit.

For me, his best option is to change. But yes of course, I can't see anyone at the club approaching him about things.

 

[edgar allan]

Jose Mourinho would walk into the Inter Job, and would most likely be given a stab at the Madrid job again now that the old guard are on their way out (CR7, Ramos, Modric, Benzema).

He'd also get the PSG and Bayern job easily; the only reason he hasnt is because he himself prefers the PL due to a higher salary and more competitive league.

He would have for sure a few years ago but if he has two failures in a row on his CV the clubs you have mentioned would likely look elsewhere.

 

[Phil Osophy]

Jose Mourinho would walk into the Inter Job, and would most likely be given a stab at the Madrid job again now that the old guard are on their way out (CR7, Ramos, Modric, Benzema).

He'd also get the PSG and Bayern job easily; the only reason he hasnt is because he himself prefers the PL due to a higher salary and more competitive league.

His chance to manage Inter is to wait until the job is available at some point. They're not going to sack Spalletti while the man keeps doing a good job.

At Real, I don't think Ramos nowadays (despite their problems), Modric or Benzema would be a problem. It was more Pepe, Casillas, not sure about Marcelo but mainly CR7. He's the main reference and the more influential figure, and I don't think he's going anywhere. He's "on his way out" like every year, but at the end of the film the man is on contract until 2021. And even if he left, or if he stayed and was fine with it, Mourinho was too divisive at the club and inside the fanbase. It would be stupid for them to reignite that atmosphere and some ghosts of the past. I can't see it short term.

Bayern clearly stated that they're not interested in a manager like Mourinho, and it's pretty obvious why.
http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/284355.html

And it was in 2014. Now he has even less chances than before.

My only doubt is PSG. If they want a new coach next summer he's going to be considered for sure. But I don't think he'd be the first of the list in that case.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Spot on? You think we play better attacking football than Liverpool and Spurs?

Lots of paragraphs doesn't equal quality.

And your short response is less quality. He raises valid points, people moan and bring out comments that also don’t make sense when you analyze it.

He doesn’t say we play better, merely pointing out we created and scored more than those teams.

Until festive period, we concerted our Chances. His point was despite those teams playing “nicer” on the eyes football, we have played more pragmatic and concerted. He hasn’t said we’ve played sexier than the others, but we have attacked - although it’s up to our attackers to dictate what to do as Mou states he gives them room to do what they want, maybe he needs to baby them and treat them like kids if the don’t have a footballing brain and any idea what to do.

 

[Dobbs]

And your short response is less quality. He raises valid points, people moan and bring out comments that also don’t make sense when you analyze it.

He doesn’t say we play better, merely pointing out we created and scored more than those teams.

Until festive period, we concerted our Chances. His point was despite those teams playing “nicer” on the eyes football, we have played more pragmatic and concerted. He hasn’t said we’ve played sexier than the others, but we have attacked - although it’s up to our attackers to dictate what to do as Mou states he gives them room to do what they want, maybe he needs to baby them and treat them like kids if the don’t have a footballing brain and any idea what to do.

I only asked a simple question so not sure why you're commenting on the quality of my post.

He says very clearly we attack better. Uses those exact words. So do you think we play better attacking football than Spurs and Liverpool?

 

[clarkydaz]

Speak for yourself, most of the people love Jose. Thats the real feeling I am getting at OT. Come to watch us some time, you will change your mind about what people think about Jose.

I love him being miserable and pissed off, cause that means he cares about winning. He hates losing with a passion and does not hide his feelings. He speaks his mind.

What did the other dude expect, Jose loses a game and dances and laughs like a clown?

Some people yeah? Armchair pundits, never played football probably.

i have a season ticket you idiot. did you not hear boos last match as he was walking towards the tunnel

 

[fcbforever]

His chance to manage Inter is to wait until the job is available at some point. They're not going to sack Spalletti while the man keeps doing a good job.

At Real, I don't think Ramos nowadays (despite their problems), Modric or Benzema would be a problem. It was more Pepe, Casillas, not sure about Marcelo but mainly CR7. He's the main reference and the more influential figure, and I don't think he's going anywhere. He's "on his way out" like every year, but at the end of the film the man is on contract until 2021. And even if he left, or if he stayed and was fine with it, Mourinho was too divisive at the club and inside the fanbase. It would be stupid for them to reignite that atmosphere and some ghosts of the past. I can't see it short term.

Bayern clearly stated that they're not interested in a manager like Mourinho, and it's pretty obvious why.
http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/284355.html

And it was in 2014. Now he has even less chances than before.

My only doubt is PSG. If they want a new coach next summer he's going to be considered for sure. But I don't think he'd be the first of the list in that case.

True. Our board won’t touch that guy even with gloves.

 

[Mr Anderson]

I only asked a simple question so not sure why you're commenting on the quality of my post.

He says very clearly we attack better. Uses those exact words. So do you think we play better attacking football than Spurs and Liverpool?

But yet again you pick at it wrong though. He clearly explained why we have attacked better basing it on our goals scored. He didn’t comment on the playing style, merely we are more clinical - scored more, so as an attacking unit we were better than them.

If you read the post properly, you’d understand that. It’s simple. style without substance - play well but not converting.

Festive period a disaster though. Simply not good enough and we all acknowledge that, at both ends of the pitch.

 

[mike bird]

i have a season ticket you idiot. did you not hear boos last match as he was walking towards the tunnel

Your post does not deserve an answer, hopefully the mods might think otherwise.

 

[Adisa]

There's no doubt in my mind he wants players this window.
Ed needs to pull his finger out.

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[Paxi]

There's no doubt in my mind he wants players this window.
Ed needs to pull his finger out.

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That's as clear as day.

On the other hand. Talk of Coutinho going to Barca for 150 million. That's the prices we're looking at now, to realistically improve our first team, unless we hit a jack pot like Bailly - it's not to smart to rely on that strategy.

 

[p2pZeus]

Speak for yourself, most of the people love Jose. Thats the real feeling I am getting at OT. Come to watch us some time, you will change your mind about what people think about Jose.

I love him being miserable and pissed off, cause that means he cares about winning. He hates losing with a passion and does not hide his feelings. He speaks his mind.

What did the other dude expect, Jose loses a game and dances and laughs like a clown?

Some people yeah? Armchair pundits, never played football probably.

There were boos at full time last game at OT. Then while the players changed shirts and greeted opposition players the boos had calmed. But as soon as mourinho walked towards the tunnel the fans started booing and gesturing again, confirming that it was directed at him too, and not only the result or the team.

 

[redNATION]

That's as clear as day.

On the other hand. Talk of Coutinho going to Barca for 150 million. That's the prices we're looking at now, to realistically improve our first team, unless we hit a jack pot like Bailly - it's not to smart to rely on that strategy.

More than ever, the value of a good youth academy is there for all to see. If you can develop stars of your own, we wouldnt need to constantly spend £200m every summer on players (this applies to every club). I really hope the likes of TFM, Tuanzebe, Pereira, and Gomes are given a chance to establish themselves. Just look at Spurs who persevered with Kane, and is now a £150m player.

 

[Paxi]

More than ever, the value of a good youth academy is there for all to see. If you can develop stars of your own, we wouldnt need to constantly spend £200m every summer on players (this applies to every club). I really hope the likes of TFM, Tuanzebe, Pereira, and Gomes are given a chance to establish themselves. Just look at Spurs who persevered with Kane, and is now a £150m player.

I agree 100%. We should reserve the outlay of that magnitude on special players.

 

[Sjaakmeoff]

If we are 5-6 players away from a decent department why the hell are we splurging so much money on very few players, i understand maybe we didnt invest as well as we should of at the end of Fergie's reign and beyond, but Mourinho has had money to spend. I present a list of players that moved clubs between 2016 and 2017 and the prices they went for.

Timo Werner - £9mill
Julian Draxler - £35mill
James Rodriguez - £50/60mill
Ruben Neves - £16mill
[Irrelevant point] - £20mill
Davinson Sanchez - £4mill to Ajax
Thomas Meunier - £5mill
Miralem Pjanic - £30mill
Ilkay Gundogan - £25mill
Benjamin Mendy - £13mill to Monaco
Antonio Rudiger - £7mill to Roma

I could go on.

Even if we managed to somehow buy all of them in 2016 and 2017 whilst shipping deadwood out the transfer spend would be extremely low, but we don't seem interested whenever a player that could really fill a gap for us appears to be buyable. Maybe this coming summer with Ribalta might be different but something is not right, i would never in my life think about spending 75million on Lukaku, he gets goals but is entirely limited in nearly every other aspect of his game, its crazy. You can claim the market has changed, and it has, to a degree, but you can see from my list that high quality players at low prices are still available and that most of them would of gone a long way to filling gaps in our squad that after 2 windows we still have.

Yes, but these aren't "United" prices.
"Hi Ajax...Davinson? Ehmmm.. 4mio? Ok, deal.".
"Hi United... -pssss, got united on the phone. Listen up-. Davinson? 55mio! Meh, isn't that a bit much? Nope...you're United..you keep telling everyone you're the biggest club in the world. Did i say 55? I meant 60."

 

[KingMinger22]

We are very luck to have Mourinho. He is second to none in his standing in the world. His personal standing is a lot higher than our club's right now IMO.

I also think he is spot-on.

We have spent, but too thinly with many buys and only two that you could claim were ''top-tier'' signings. One of which (ADM) was a bitch.

Now, the real big buys look like they are going to cost £150m+ and are out of our league. We had a season or two where we were the big spenders with big desires but we just didn't have the pull, or whatever it was, to really capitalize on that and get in a couple of stars.

Think; Real Madrid 2009. That is how to turn a club round. 5 superstars in one window. Not 15 average players across 3-4 windows with two real stars.

 

[deafepl]

Yes, but these aren't "United" prices.
"Hi Ajax...Davinson? Ehmmm.. 4mio? Ok, deal.".
"Hi United... -pssss, got united on the phone. Listen up-. Davinson? 55mio! Meh, isn't that a bit much? Nope...you're United..you keep telling everyone you're the biggest club in the world. Did i say 55? I meant 60."

Bought Ajax for 200m in the transfer window and transfer all of Ajax players to United's academy and under 23 reserves team to keep our reputation for promising to promote United academy graduate to the first team, it'd be best transfer window.

 

[ghagua]

So, he's saying he is not good enough as the manager of the club.

Just what I was going to say. When does coaching come into play?

 

[Rhyme Animal]

We are very luck to have Mourinho. He is second to none in his standing in the world. His personal standing is a lot higher than our club's right now IMO.

I also think he is spot-on.

We have spent, but too thinly with many buys and only two that you could claim were ''top-tier'' signings. One of which (ADM) was a bitch.

Now, the real big buys look like they are going to cost £150m+ and are out of our league. We had a season or two where we were the big spenders with big desires but we just didn't have the pull, or whatever it was, to really capitalize on that and get in a couple of stars.

Think; Real Madrid 2009. That is how to turn a club round. 5 superstars in one window. Not 15 average players across 3-4 windows with two real stars.

This. Especially the bold.

Stop fecking around and make proper, genuine, no debate World Class investments.

This club deserves no less.

 

[VancouverUtdFan]

This. Especially the bold.

Stop fecking around and make proper, genuine, no debate World Class investments.

This club deserves no less.

I third this.

 

[eat_grass]

I'm finding it delightfully ironic that Mourinho was calling Wenger a specialist in failure when Wenger had 10% of his budget and now he's moaning about the lack of spending despite having massive financial funding over the last couple of seasons with more to come in the next. He's not the same brilliant untouchable manager who managed Porto, Chelsea and Inter. Real Madrid broke him and despite winning the league with Chelsea he lost the dressing room and was near the bottom of the table when he was finally sacked. United might well be his last gig if he fails there he will prob end up managing Portugal unless PSG are going to give him a job.

Lol. I like these kinds of posts that simply regurgitate talking points fed to them by the media and miserable fans but have no clue about their origin.

1. The "specialist in failure" shot was a response to Arsene telling a reported that Mourinho was talking down his team's chances to win the title because of "fear to fail." (Mourinho had said they were "little horses" compared to eventual title-winners City's and Arsenal's "big horses"). It had zero to do with money. 10 years Arsene went between trophies. That's specializing in failure.



Mourinho said his team was a year away from competing.

Here he is the following season predicting Chelsea would win the League in March when 5 points ahead of City (some "fear of failing"):


2. Mourinho's "worst season in my career" in Madrid saw him get to (and lose) the Copa del Rey Final, win the Supercopa de España against Barcelona, and reach the semi-finals in the Champions League (losing 4-3 in aggregate against BVB). Some "disaster," eh?


3. The vast majority of Chelsea players backed Mourinho until the end. Mourinho was serenaded off the pitch by the fans his last home game for Chelsea. He never "lost" the dressing room, and never "lost" the fans.

There's a strong addiction to hating Mourinho among some members of society. It feeds something very dark inside them.

Envy is the biggest tribute that the shadows do to the man. - Jose Mourinho

 

[sammsky1]

to put things into perspective, as it stands based off money spent so far and projected incomes we have spent about 26% of our income on new players. Liverpool are now up around 44% and City at 42%...thats the standard being set now.

we are paying now for about 8 years worth of sh8t recruitment by Fergie, Moyes and LVG. fergie left us with a squad that he thought would dominate for a decade and it was absolutely awful once they were exposed.

we got rid of players like Ronaldo and Tevez and replaced them with Valencia, Owen, Obertan. that is there it all started and we are still paying for it.

and then there was LVG wasiting 300m on by and large, absolute rubbish.

Anyone know about the clubs P&L and current cash flow?

How much cash do we have to invest in new transfers (fee and wages) over next calendar year if these ratios remain consistent or if we get closer to City and Liverpool ratios?

 

[Ikon]

I was reading something yesterday that suggested that Mourinho and Woodward are at loggerheads.
Mourinho wants to spend big on a LB (Rose, Sandro) but Woodward is telling him to look at cheaper options.

Who knows how true that is, but it could add a bit of context to some of Mourinho's recent pressers...

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/03/jose-...ed-chief-ed-woodward-danny-rose-deal-7199131/

 

[Stacks]

Weaker teams? No team is considered weak anymore in PL. This is not xbox, all teams fighting every single game like its a final. Man City almost lost yesterday, to what you may consider weak team, do they need to sack Pep? Arsenal drew against W. Brom. All these weak teams as you call them, they can play and they can cause damage. Heck, I can see Burnley in the CL, I really do.

clearly there are. The teams 8th and below are 17 pts off 2nd and 32 pts off first. The table is as separated as I have seen in a long time. Its only half way through.
The poster is clearly referring to a lack of being able to do basics well while being near the top end of the table. He wants to see domination.

 

[BigdaftGorby]

So to just ask, after saying what he said about the lack of spends....are we actually in for anyone in January?

 

[FrenchRed]

Jose is a winner - he won't settle for less. The board are happy to coast a long in the top 4.

Jose is right on the money, we should be investing hugely if we want to stay relevant.