Where do people get these nothing stories from anyway?? I hope he signs a new 5 year deal. That will shut some of the whiny feckers up for a while. There's no reason for him to leave or for the board to have any concerns at this stage? Just back him and let him get on with it!
Utd concerned that Jose will resign in May
- Thread starter Peanut Butter
- Start date
- Status
This guy makes some good points. I agree that the hoofball we see in big games isn't the answer and we need to find something more constructive. We also need to make a long-term plan as well.
That said, I certainly don't want to get rid of him. Hopefully the Everton performance was a portent of things to come.
That's a shite reply to one post. But two, well, I'll let you work that one out.
Can a modmin close this piece of crap thread then.
Sorry mate, didnt mean to include you in that response. Quoted you by mistake.
He would not admit it in a press conference at this stage.....
Where would he even go? He hated the football culture in Spain, any other club in England is a step down. PSG? Replacing the excitement of the Premier league with the tedium of Ligue 1, akin to going from nightly orgies with beautiful women to wanking into an old sock in a care home. Is Italy really where the focus is at the moment? Would he enjoy Germany? Surely international football would bore the arse off him.
I think he's ours for a few more years yet.
I think he's ours for a few more years yet.
Why would he want to leave United?Especially when Guardiolas painting the town red with his team,Jose knows fully well that if he leaves now he"ll go down in history as a coward,as someone who copped out when the going got tough,as someone who's just not good enough to compete with Pep.Theres no way in hell that he's ever going to let that happen.....he will want to sign another 3-4 quality players in the summer and go all out next season....
I do not know Mourinho so I do not know his decision making process.
Can this not be closed given his comments today?
Quite clear he has no intention of resigning.
Quite clear he has no intention of resigning.
Jose just put this to bed.
No daily fail article is worth 15 pages of a thread and you people should know it.
Mourinho replaying on that hotel idiotic stuff.
He's probably got a sweet gig there.
It's not about attacking football versus winning. That's false logic.
I ask you only a few questions - think about our competitors (ie the ones we really need to beat to win the big trophies) . Are they preparing their teams and players to play the Mourinho way ? Are they looking at United and thinking " I wish we could learn how to play like that "? Or are they looking at City and thinking "these guys are a real threat" ?
Ultimately United will stand or fall on the basis of the quality , bravery and skill of their football in big games. We will not beat the Bayerns of this world playing fear based hoofball in our own half. You think for a second . Is mou picking up the threads from LVG and Moyes ? Yes. Is he making the best of a bad job? Yes. Is he still a good manager ? Yes. Will he take us any further than minor cups and 3rd place? A resounding NO.
Will we be able to pass the ball confidently ,quickly and positively in Turin under the floodlights? How is Mourinho preparing us for this? How will be able to pass the ball creatively and throw men forward on the break in Paris or at OT in the CL QF if what we are practising is mindless hoofball. It's one thing to beat Everton away but we need to be able to do it against the really good teams - and what happens when we meet a good team ? We retreat into our own box and cower with fear in the hope that hoofing it up to Lukaku will be enough - well it ain't gonna work against Bayern. These other teams around us are learning , and have learnt , that you can be positive and attacking and it's also very very effective. MORE effective than sitting way too deep in your own box relying on your world class goal keeper to bail you out.
I'd be happier with a Tuchel or Sarri that was building for the future games with the elite than Mourinho who is satisfied with crushing West Ham but then being cowardly against City.
You see , what you don't understand is that I want trophies and results more than you do. I object to park the bus hoofball mainly because it just doesn't work not because its boring. Football has moved on. These top teams that are playing in very different ways than Mourinho is aren't doing it because they want to look pretty . They are practising for success , not failure. They recognise that good quality and positive football is what wins matches not fear based anti football. Sure they all know how to sit back and counter attack but they try and do it very differently to how we do it.
It's not me that's deluded it's you that's deluded if you think you can take on the elite with hoofball. At the end of the day every team has it's day of reckoning when they stand of fall on how good a footballing team they are. The teams that pass and move at speed with precision , flair and confidence will come out on top. With Mourinho ultimately we will be found wanting in big games , so please stop making this about FIFA PS4 - it's a serious problem and I have thought very deeply about it.
It's always , always , always about the quality of and kind of football you want to try and play.
So why is this thread not locked again ?
With the current squad United has, it could be one of the better things happening to you in this decade if it happens.
Praise the Lord, I'm glad 'desmondisback' on Redcafe can predict the future, (despite historic evidence to the contrary) and with his crystal ball, relegate us to resounding failure under Mourinho!
I really do not think journalists just make up stories as much as people here seem too. Even with Mourinho's strong comments at the press conference there was probably a good deal of truth to the article.
The best thing to happen to us this decade, depending on how you define it, was SAF winning us the titles in 2011 and 2013. This is followed by Mourinho, because we were dross under LVG and Moyes. If Mourinho leaves, we will recover, but there is no guarantee that a successor will do better. History indicates that Mourinho will bring us success (indeed he already has).
Honestly interpreted the headline as re-sign rather than resign at first glance lol
For real manNeed to bring back MTV cribs so we can see how he's living.
I can understand what desmond is saying in a way. My personal concern is, whilst i have nothing against Mourinho personally, I think his style of managing is outdated, or is about to become outdated. As desmond mentioned, all the big clubs that we say we should be competing with, virtually none of them play the kind of football we do, they don't cower into their shell against "bigger teams", nor are they negative a lot of the time, the majority play fast free flowing attacking football, and this is a direction football is heading, perhaps the only exception is Simeone at Atletico.
Now say Mourinho stays to the minimum of his 3 year contract, maybe even more, who is up and coming that can take the reigns after Mourinho and carry on what he's done, as far as I can see there is nobody. Right now there is a plethora of talented attacking coaches, some of which are even gettable like Jardim or Tuchel.
There's a reason Bayern want Tuchel, Nagelsmann or even Hassenhuttl as their next manager even if they don't have the CV of LVG or Mourinho, because as a well run club from top to bottom Bayern understand where they are going, what they need to do to get there and they get it done.
My main worry is we stick with Mourinho, get left behind whilst the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern etc snap up these managers within the next year or 2. This is why i say it's a precarious position, because i'd like to see Mourinho succeed here, I just don't think him remaining here in the long term will be beneficial to the club in the long term, yes he wants to stay here long term but he wanted to stay at Chelsea long term and we know how combustible he is.
My mind is torn saying Mourinho is the best for the club right now but personally I don't think he's the best for the future at all, it's worrying, there are definitely pro's and con's to Mourinho staying here, I just hope it all works out in the end but i've a horrible sinking feeling we may regret it in the long term if he stays beyond his contract. Hopefully he does go beyond his contract its because he's making us winners, and not getting us barely by in 3rd and late runs in cup competitions.
Now say Mourinho stays to the minimum of his 3 year contract, maybe even more, who is up and coming that can take the reigns after Mourinho and carry on what he's done, as far as I can see there is nobody. Right now there is a plethora of talented attacking coaches, some of which are even gettable like Jardim or Tuchel.
There's a reason Bayern want Tuchel, Nagelsmann or even Hassenhuttl as their next manager even if they don't have the CV of LVG or Mourinho, because as a well run club from top to bottom Bayern understand where they are going, what they need to do to get there and they get it done.
My main worry is we stick with Mourinho, get left behind whilst the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern etc snap up these managers within the next year or 2. This is why i say it's a precarious position, because i'd like to see Mourinho succeed here, I just don't think him remaining here in the long term will be beneficial to the club in the long term, yes he wants to stay here long term but he wanted to stay at Chelsea long term and we know how combustible he is.
My mind is torn saying Mourinho is the best for the club right now but personally I don't think he's the best for the future at all, it's worrying, there are definitely pro's and con's to Mourinho staying here, I just hope it all works out in the end but i've a horrible sinking feeling we may regret it in the long term if he stays beyond his contract. Hopefully he does go beyond his contract its because he's making us winners, and not getting us barely by in 3rd and late runs in cup competitions.
Last edited by a moderator:
Not sure why the Daily Mail keeps pushing these stories on Mourinho.
Back the manager. We're Man United. Whining about managers and booing your own team is small time.
Happy that Jose put those rumors or whatever it is to bed as quickly as possible, really like when a manager or a player show they are loyal to the club. I really hope that Jose stays here beyond his contract and truly loved his comments about how he is ready to renew with us. Hopefully the board act quickly too unless they have sone weird plans for Giggs or someone else.
„One of the“ is the key. Of course is was the a great feat that Ferguson managed to get two titles out of a squad which was essentially grinding on its teeth, but going forwards, not only for the next season but probably for a next decade, getting in a modern manager would man so much for United. I‘m one of those who believes the squad is already there at this, but a manager using ideas which were fashionable is holding you back really hurts. Yes, playing defensively will win you a few matches against the big boys, just like it does for the minor teams in the league, but in the long run it just doesn’t work against modern athleticism, speed and pressure. Mourinho lives in the past and it’s showing.
I think he is secretly waiting for the Arsenal job to become vacant. That’s why he is keeping his house in London and not movzing his family to Manchester. The conspiracy theory business is fun.
You play the brand of football that yields you the highest chances of winning a football match. It has always been that way and Jose believe his brand of football gives us the best chance. What's so hard to understand about that?
Everyone wanted to play how Pep's Barca played. Look how Heyneckes and Simoene destroyed them in the UCL. Despite your claims that "we aren't a threat" due to the brand of football we play, i believe that going up against a Jose team will always be in the head of the opposition manager. I doubt they would be silly to think that we are just going to sit back for 90 minutes without even attacking.
Labeling us as a hoofball team is a pretty poor analogy considering we did that against Liverpool and City without our best player and also our defence to attack link man. Do you think City would be the same without say their fullbacks or KDB? I highly doubt it.
United will stand or fall based on the trophies they won, not the brand of football they play. If is all about brand of football, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool would be the top team in England at the moment. Liverpool and Spurs would be attracting sponsors left, right and center. They've won nothing despite their "bravery and skill". There's a reason why we got a huge sponsor from Adidas.
You would be happier with Sarri, who iirc crashed out of the UCL? and with Tuchel who can't handle the job at BVB? Playing counter attacking football isn't an act of cowardice. Why do people not get that?
I'm sorry but you do not want trophies more than the previous poster. What you want more is attacking sexy football. If you wanted trophies more, you couldn't care less what type of football we play as long as it gives us the best chance to win. But i'm guessing you would think attacking football gives us the best chance and thus it shows how u value attacking over defending. Both are equally important.
Football has moved on? I hear that all the time. Is such a weak argument and people use it just to bash Mourinho. Heyneckes won the treble and UCL with supposedly counter attacking football. When was that again? I'm sure it didn't happen 20 years ago.
Stop deluding yourself. If is was always about "attacking football", Klopp would have won butt loads last year. Poch too. What have they won? So long story short, you just want to watch a game that entertains you. I'm guessing you must be a young supporter.
Last edited:
We have seen journalists making up entire interview before, so won't be surprised if they wake up and start writing whatever comes to their mind first.
@SwSw Bayern averaged 60% possession during their treble season. They were really not a counter attacking team
Fabricating stories usually ends journalists' careers.
I'm not saying they are one. But i'm say they are pragmatic. They do not just have one style of playing.
Not sure Don Balon agrees with you.
Not really. He won the title with Chelsea and real Madrid recently. His team is second in goals scored and league position.
Don Balon no longer exits which sort of supports what I am saying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...over-multi-billion-Dream-Football-League.html
Oliver Kay copied some story from Twitter (Someone made up about clubs joining some Qatar league) and later apologised. If I'm not wrong, Oliver Kay still employed by Times.
- Status