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Next Real Madrid manager | Glaston has a shocker

giorno

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who would you like?
Zidane :(:(:(:(

Honestly...no idea. Guti or Sarri i guess. I don't know enough good managers we could realistically hire. Guti, he'd be a leap of faith but at least he's Guti :D
 

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Pure resultadista. Even juventus fans only tolerate him because he gets results

But this group of players won too much in the last few years. At this point they play for legacy, and for that results aren't enough anymore, how those results are achieved will be just as important
Don't think this is true. They care about winning, they won't care about the people that don't give them enough credit because the football isn't innovative or dominant enough. They're going for a fourth Champions League in a row, noone will downplay that.

What Giorno said. He seems a good manager of elite groups, with curriculum and Italian, the typical coach that Florentino likes, but his football is nothing special. Maybe in an emergency time he would be my first choice
He's smart enough to adapt though, he wouldn't have Madrid playing like Juve. He'd also bring new ideas and challenge the players. Tightening up defensively would be very important.

Juve have won 4 league+cup doubles in a row, in the CL they were eliminated by Bayern, Barcelona and Madrid x2. If there's anyone that knows how to bring motivation to a winning team it's Allegri and having a happy and motivated dressing room is half the battle as a Real Madrid manager.
 

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That's not true. If you sack the manager the contract is still valid. Any club interested would still have to negotiate with you to terminate the contract. For you, it just means you'd be paying two managers, one of whom you're paying to sit on his couch

Not saying this is the case with Poch, but the idea that if a manager wants to leave the club's can't do anything isn't true

Case in point: Fiorentina did just that with Montella a few years ago(and he actually had a buyout clause too, but milan weren't willing to pay it. Funnily enough Fiorentina eventually accepted considerably less money from Sampdoria to end the contract and let him go, then half a season later Montella finally got the milan job)
I didn't say a club can't do anything, I said no sensible club will want to do anything to force an unwilling manager to stay.

The manager is far more important than any player, so forcing them to stay would have a disastrous knock-on effect on morale and willingness to perform across the whole squad. The players would say to each other, "the gaffer wants out, so why should we walk through walls for him (and in any case he'll be gone soon enough)?"

And in any case, the club could no longer have confidence that the manager was doing their best for them - in terms of man-management, team selection, coaching and so on. It's just not practical.
 

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Zidane :(:(:(:(

Honestly...no idea. Guti or Sarri i guess. I don't know enough good managers we could realistically hire. Guti, he'd be a leap of faith but at least he's Guti :D
Guti might be good to show the young ones how to party in Madrid, but not as a manager with so much pressure around. He should get the same treatment as Zidane and manage the B team or be part of the training staff first.

Sarri... no way. I'd pay to watch him trying to convince the players on how to play though. In a dressing room like that the manager adapts to the players. Not the other way around.

It's going to be Allegri.
 

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There's just nobody out there that excites me tbh. I hope they give it to some completely unexpected club legend like Van Nistelrooij, Hierro, Makelele, Seedorf or something. Even though they'd probably be completely shit at it. I miss a bit of circus.
 

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Guti might be good to show the young ones how to party in Madrid, but not as a manager with so much pressure around. He should get the same treatment as Zidane and manage the B team or be part of the training staff first.

Sarri... no way. I'd pay to watch him trying to convince the players on how to play though. In a dressing room like that the manager adapts to the players. Not the other way around.

It's going to be Allegri.
Given the ever-diminishing list of potential managers available to Madrid at this point in proceedings, Allegri seems to be the most realistic option and probably the most gettable. Allegri at least has proven credentials to his name (multiple league titles with Juve albeit in a somewhat weaker league) unlike Poch who has yet to win a single trophy during his managerial career.

Wenger is another one Real should consider for the job. There are few managers in the game today more experienced than The Voyeur or successful for that matter (not in recent years admittedly). He would be perfect as a short-term option until other long-term targets become available.
 

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Quoting yourself is a new low Glaston.
I'm not quoting myself - I'm quoting what other posters have said, including you.

It's something I rarely do, but in this case a few examples are well worth citing.
 

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Yeah, but so far all of the tactical and systematic coaches in the Perez era were defensive minded... If Real appoint Sarri they will have an offensive tactician. The positional play of Sarri's teams is the closest we can get from the original idea of Cruyff (more than Guardiola). Add to that the biggest influence of Sarri's ideas is not Cruyff but Arrigo Sacchi... If it works it can be really scary for the rest of the elite teams lol
in that you're right, Madrid used to jump from an offensive coach to a "sergeant", who was often very defensive, Floro-Valdano-Capello, Capello-Schuster or Pellegrini-Mourinho-Ancelotti, but I think he's missing more caché. Passing from Zidane to Sarri is a bit meh
There's just nobody out there that excites me tbh. I hope they give it to some completely unexpected club legend like Van Nistelrooij, Hierro, Makelele, Seedorf or something. Even though they'd probably be completely shit at it. I miss a bit of circus.
Me too, something extravagant and picturesque. Except Seedorf
Guti might be good to show the young ones how to party in Madrid, but not as a manager with so much pressure around. He should get the same treatment as Zidane and manage the B team or be part of the training staff first.

Sarri... no way. I'd pay to watch him trying to convince the players on how to play though. In a dressing room like that the manager adapts to the players. Not the other way around.

It's going to be Allegri.
To be fair with Guti he has changed,has matured and at least the times that he spoke in el chiringuito he had very good opinions,although perhaps he should be at Castilla or be second coach first.
 

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Has something happened?

Anyway I still maintain if Poch wanted to leave, there’s nothing Levy could do about it. You can’t keep a manager against his will.
Pochettino wants to stay at Spurs and is staying, just as Levy wanted.

You said "This is one which Levy can’t win. ..." But he has.
 

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I didn't say a club can't do anything, I said no sensible club will want to do anything to force an unwilling manager to stay.

The manager is far more important than any player, so forcing them to stay would have a disastrous knock-on effect on morale and willingness to perform across the whole squad. The players would say to each other, "the gaffer wants out, so why should we walk through walls for him (and in any case he'll be gone soon enough)?"

And in any case, the club could no longer have confidence that the manager was doing their best for them - in terms of man-management, team selection, coaching and so on. It's just not practical.
Sacking a manager and letting him go are different things. It's not sensible to pay for someone to sit on the couch but sometimes defending a principle might trump the cold logic of finance. Napoli already hired a new manager, yet Sarri is still employed by them and in fact the reason he hasn't gone to chelsea yet is bc they don't want to pay the buyout clause. They'd rather pay him his wage to do nothing than give up the €8m of his clause.

Pochettino, we got in contact and his answer was "talk to levy".
 

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Sacking a manager and letting him go are different things. It's not sensible to pay for someone to sit on the couch but sometimes defending a principle might trump the cold logic of finance. Napoli already hired a new manager, yet Sarri is still employed by them and in fact the reason he hasn't gone to chelsea yet is bc they don't want to pay the buyout clause. They'd rather pay him his wage to do nothing than give up the €8m of his clause.

Pochettino, we got in contact and his answer was "talk to levy".
No, his answer was ", thanks, but no thanks .... maybe next time, but I wouldn't have signed a new contract if I didn't want to stay".
 

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Worlds biggest and most successfull club, funds up his ass, nailed on chances for silverware every season, big pay rise, biggest job in fotball etc.

...nah, feck that. Can't match the new stadium with full automatic sprinkler coverage.
 

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Looks like Zidane throughly fecked Real with the timing of his decision. I'd be very surprised if they would be able to get Klopp, as he always went on about the importance of contracts. If Real came asking somewhere before the end of last season then maybe he'd leave it to the clubs to agree terms, but I neither see him try to force a move nor can I see Liverpool (or any big club) letting their coach leave at this point, when they probably already put a lot of work into their strategic approach for next season or in the case of Liverpool already finalized some signings who were lured with the prospect of being trained by Klopp.
You have used a very gentle way to say, that there is not a snowball in hell chance for Klopp being seriously interested in that job. He would not even think for a minute going there. Thats literally a zero chance case. Klopp is, where he wants to be..simple.
 
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Got to say it's absolutely ridiculous that they have let Zidane leave, yeah he hasn't won the league every year but so what. His record speaks for itself and i really can't see them getting anyone better in.

Really shows how stupid owners can be when they try to get involved in every aspect of the club.

That's what really sets us apart from the other big clubs and is the reason i don't hate the glazers as much as most people. They just hire people to do the jobs instead of meddling like Perez and Abramovic.
 

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Dare I say....

That if no stand out candidates are out there and ready to take the job. Wenger really wouldn't be a bad shout to keep the ship steady for a couple of seasons.
 

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Dare I say....

That if no stand out candidates are out there and ready to take the job. Wenger really wouldn't be a bad shout to keep the ship steady for a couple of seasons.
I would be really happy if he got it, I like Wenger.
 

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Allegri is by far the best choice out there, can only shake my head at some of the examples being mentioned: Guti (no resemblance to Zizou whatsoever, no experience with Castilla, let alone the first team, not even as an assistant, lacks the calmness too, would be a damn good choice for trolling the opposition though, but not as a manager), Sarri (barely good enough for Napoli), Poch (what has he ever won to be worth 40M?), Wenger (4th place trophy instead of 4-peat), Conte (wouldn't last a month) etc.
 

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Worlds biggest and most successfull club, funds up his ass, nailed on chances for silverware every season, big pay rise, biggest job in fotball etc.

...nah, feck that. Can't match the new stadium with full automatic sprinkler coverage.
Proper :lol:
 

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Castles knows nothing.

Poch doesn't want to leave Spurs. Spurs have just signed three of its key players up to new long term deals. Not yet been made public but it will very soon.

Madrid are saving face by saying that it's because Levy is a tough negotiator but since when has that ever stopped Madrid before? The real truth is Poch has turned them down for the present time. Its not the right time for him.
A coach is not a player, and Pochettino is not Arrigo Sacchi or Jose Mourinho (not that we know yet), so that point doesn't carry much water. At the end of the day is about how much someone is worth. If the buyer thinks the cost and time are excessive there won't be any attempt to negotiate. And to have your coach on time is important when you want to study potential signings.
 

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I didn't say a club can't do anything, I said no sensible club will want to do anything to force an unwilling manager to stay.

The manager is far more important than any player, so forcing them to stay would have a disastrous knock-on effect on morale and willingness to perform across the whole squad. The players would say to each other, "the gaffer wants out, so why should we walk through walls for him (and in any case he'll be gone soon enough)?"

And in any case, the club could no longer have confidence that the manager was doing their best for them - in terms of man-management, team selection, coaching and so on. It's just not practical.
I think you are downplaying the power of the club a bit. Sure, if the coach really wants it and starting to play dirty, then he will most prob succeed, but IMO not that many are as strict and resolute to burn all bridges only thinking about themselves. On top of my not so sober head I remember Favre last summer and Nagelsmann last summer and this one categorically ruled out any possibility by Hopp.
 

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Yes I saw what you quoted, thank you. So again: What?
So what?

Pochettino won't be "gone" and RM won't "pay up" because there is no option for them to do so in the case of a manager who doesn't want to leave.

Of course you'll never admit that you were wrong ... you'll just continue with playing dumb.
 

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Worlds biggest and most successfull club, funds up his ass, nailed on chances for silverware every season, big pay rise, biggest job in fotball etc.

...nah, feck that. Can't match the new stadium with full automatic sprinkler coverage.
You seem baffled as to why Pochettino has turned down RM. But I suppose your suggested explanation helps to provide light relief from all your confusion.

How can he turn down Real Madrid? Pretty easily it seems.
 

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What’s the shocker?

Can someone please quote what was said lol
 

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What’s the shocker?

Can someone please quote what was said lol
I'll explain: the shock comes from all those Caftards who wrongly predicted that Pochettino would be off in a flash to Real Madrid.

"How can he turn down Real Madrid?"

They have trouble believing it, but the best cure for shock is a warm, quiet place and hot, sweet tea.
 

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I'll explain: the shock comes from all those Caftards who wrongly predicted that Pochettino would be off in a flash to Real Madrid.

"How can he turn down Real Madrid?"

They have trouble believing it, but the best cure for shock is warmth and hot, sweet tea.
If this is the case and true, then I’m with you.

Poch has far better job security at Spurs than he ever would at Madrid. For all he knows he’ll be sacked after 1 season and with the retool that’ll inevitably take place there, he’d be an easy scapegoat when things go south.
 

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What the feck is it with Spurs fans modifying and cherry picking Poch's quotes and "translating" them? Yeah We know Poch's will remain at Spurs in your head, every players that you want to stay will stay as well. You don't have to tell us 30 times.

Boo-hoo but We have new stadium, Poch will respect the contact, Levy won't let this happen, Madrid isn't better than Bottleham because new stadium era and all that. :lol:

You know when a professional doesn't say "no" straight away, He's trying to keep his options open. Real Madrid is too big of a temptation to resist. More resources to work with, more money, more prestige, more chance to win trophies.
 
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