Yes this is good enough for them, throphies are over achievement.
Did Liverpool have a good season? [Poll added]
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Maybe the most important thing about this season is that despite no trophy, the CL run seems to have changed perception of the club as a destination. We rode to the final playing some fantastic stuff, and it seems that some of Europe's top talents want to play for us now. Fabinho, Fekir, maybe Allison etc
Of course not . Why people have to be so double standard ? They are won feck all & finished worse than us
Yes, making the CL is good for them. Most would expect Chelsea to have been there.
The CL final is a bonus.
The CL final is a bonus.
They have done pretty well. They were one game away from having a truly remarkable season. That can't be just ignored because they lost the final. They have also played a very entertaining style of football which is a huge plus.
They had a good season relative to the expectations of a club like them with no expectations of winning, or challenging, their league and UCL. Managing Real Madrid would be a bigger job and it would speak of him as someone ambitious if he took that job but maybe he's comfortable at Liverpool where he has less pressure. I think he would be worth a shot if he wanted to manage Real Madrid though.
Why not ask:
Would Pep have traded his season for Liverpool’s season?
Now - maybe not
But days before the CL Final, who knows. If it were possible to do, he might have traded the PL Trophy for the chance to play in the CL final.
Would Pep have traded his season for Liverpool’s season?
Now - maybe not
But days before the CL Final, who knows. If it were possible to do, he might have traded the PL Trophy for the chance to play in the CL final.
Playing good football while spending pennies, and reaching CL Final.
What does good football have to do with money? Most mid table teams in La Liga play good football while spending peanuts.
Winning something would have made it a very good/exceptional season. Not winning something has become the norm for them, finishing top 4 and reaching the CL final whilst playing good football is not the recent norm for them so yes it is a good season, its not an exceptional one however.
They haven't spent "pennies", they broke the transfer record for a defender(the 10th highest transfer fee ever at 75 mil) this season and spent over 35mil on Salah (money well spent so far) as well as 35 mil on Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Not an astronomical amount in terms of the modern game, but not "pennies" either.
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Great season in my opinion
2nd or 4th, to an extent, it doesn't really matter right now, and only finished 6 points off second anyway.
Played great attractive football. Bought the probable signing of the season last year.
Got to a CL final, raising their pull in the meantime.
Already added Keita and Fabinho to the squad, and looking like adding more.
Annoying really.
2nd or 4th, to an extent, it doesn't really matter right now, and only finished 6 points off second anyway.
Played great attractive football. Bought the probable signing of the season last year.
Got to a CL final, raising their pull in the meantime.
Already added Keita and Fabinho to the squad, and looking like adding more.
Annoying really.
Oh look, another Liverpool thread, thank goodness we aren't obsessed by them.
Finally they're right with their "we.are.worried" taunts.
Finally they're right with their "we.are.worried" taunts.
That's because this forum is full of fannies who shit themselves whenever Liverpool win or buy a player. I can't imagine how bad this place would be if Liverpool actually won stuff or regularly beat us.
I suspect it was just as bad when Liverpool almost won the league?
It's baffling that Liverpool get more hype on this forum than Man City who are a far superior team. Nevermind our own team who are at worst on the same level as Liverpool.
This is all based on single cup run as well. As if Liverpool were the first ever unfancied team to reach a CL final.
Of course it was a good season. The top scorer in the league, and the top scoring front 3 in Europe, 135 goals scored in a season, conceding less than any season since Rafa last, obvious progression in CL, reaching the final, whilst other English teams feel short, and qualifying for the CL again, with Keita to come and Fabhino too, and likely Fakir too. Most of all an obvious football identity.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but I wouldn’t swap Liverpool’s season, with UTDs season.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but I wouldn’t swap Liverpool’s season, with UTDs season.
To be fair, I absolutely loved watching Barcelona beat UTD in 2009 and even more so in 2011. I love the fact UTD fans feel the same when Liverpool also lose finals.
If I was a UTD fan, watching Karius throw those goals in must have been as much fun as it was for me watching Barca control the game in 2011. The petition was just embarrassing, and pathetic really. Ramos is an arse, but I suspect both teams would love to have in playing for them.
Another poster commented why UTD fans don’t treat City in the same way, but LFC and MUFC have hated/respected each other for over 50 years, whereas City might feel like a new money team, who will eventually fall away, but I suspect they won’t...unfortunately. Still as a club, they don’t deserve Pep. They can’t even sell their stadium out.
Hard facts say 4th and no trophies. However you'd have to be incredibly blinkered not to recognise the amount of promise and potential they have shown this season.
If they keep their big players (big if based on recent history) and continue to add quality then they've a great opportunity to push City the most next season.
Yet I'd swap their season for ours. We ended the season with exactly the same to show for it but which set of fans do you think enjoyed it more and which set are most looking forward to next season?
Why would we ask that ? this is a thread about the liverpool season, on a united forum, why would we talk about pep ?
and how is that gonna answer the question of liverpool season ? they are two teams, two differents budgets, not the same aspirations (obviously related to the budget and the fact that they won nothing for a long time).
For them it is a good season. Reached final of Champions League and finished 4th. They hammered City on the way, and also beat them in the league. So maybe they think it is a very good season for them.
They have the CL spot for next season. Almost won the CL this season and great football playing. The optimism should be high so I wouldn't say they had a bad season. Much like ours last season really with 4th place secure, Europa league.
At the same time I can see them pushing above their weight this season with most of their motivation proving people wrong after loosing out Coutinho running out. Along with Klopp being Klopp. Factors like loosing his old training buddy might become a thing next season. Still can't really argue they had a good season overall. Not City level good season but a good season non the less.
At the same time I can see them pushing above their weight this season with most of their motivation proving people wrong after loosing out Coutinho running out. Along with Klopp being Klopp. Factors like loosing his old training buddy might become a thing next season. Still can't really argue they had a good season overall. Not City level good season but a good season non the less.
I think they have, they finished top 4 and reached the CL final. It’s a good year. I think people saying no are buying into the fact the media think Liverpool are incredible, but in reality we know it not to be true and they’ve performed above what many would predict at day 1.
I also think they’ve set their squad up nicely for next year. People are already talking on here about them challenging for next year if the spending lands right, so there’s also signs of progress there. They didn’t miss Countinho as much as I thought and now have some funds to invest where they need it.
I also think they’ve set their squad up nicely for next year. People are already talking on here about them challenging for next year if the spending lands right, so there’s also signs of progress there. They didn’t miss Countinho as much as I thought and now have some funds to invest where they need it.
I feel the same way. Not particularly bothered about City doing well. There's much more history behind the United v Liverpool rivalry and it goes back to when I was a kid and had Liverpool supporting friends.
Ofcourse that's different to them being a top team. Both United and Liverpool will have to overcome City who are clearly the best team.
It's amazing to think that over the course of a full season City only dropped a total of 14 points. If they get anywhere near to repeating that next season it won't matter who Liverpool or United sign because we'll just be competing for a top 4 spot again. We were the only 2 clubs to beat City, but we need others to take points off them next time out if either of us is to mount any sort of challenge. After a pretty poor start we did end up having a good season overall. No trophies, but there were a lot more positives than negatives about how our season, & the team, progressed. Of course it remains to be seen if we can continue to progress come next season. New signings, no matter how good they are, don't always guarantee success or progression.
I’m judging them as Liverpool fans try to make out they are, a big club. If you don’t win anything then it’s not a good season imo.
Everyone says Spurs must win a trophy to be classed as a good side, why does should Liverpool be any different?
They play good football, well that’s great but ultimately if they win nothing under Klopp well it’s mean absolutely nothing.
In their second season back in the Champions League after a bit of a gap, they reached the final. And qualified again. All while playing some very good football. I'd say yes, relative to their last few years, it's been a good season. They look to building towards something so I expect they'll be happy.
It is a bit annoying how Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea rolled over. And they have had a very good injury record. Liverpool and United have been quite unfortunate with injuries.
I think City will be catchable next season, but you're looking at 90+ points to win the league. Whoever wins it will have be near perfect.
I'm sure in 20 years from now Liverpool fans will be showing their future grandkids all the memorabilia from the legendary 2017/18 season when they finished 4th and lost the CL final.
You are underestimating them.
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Wow
That’s never not funny
Because the PL trophy this year was won by Pep. What I’m trying to say is that the CL is the top competition. If it were possible to do, many managers would trade the PL trophy for the chance to play in the final, without knowing the result. But would they trade the PL trophy for a 2nd place in the final? Maybe not. Trophies count much more than 2nd place showings.
Of course you are right. I do suspect this is the best you will get from Klopp, though. He fancies losing finals too much. I don’t think Liverpool will have as easy path into a CL final as they had this year, Porto-City-Roma, so they did have a good amount of luck just to get there. Compare that to RMs path into the final: PSG, Juve, Bayern.
Surpassed expectations in the league and champions league, did poorly in less important domestic cups.
i.e. a good season
Burnley won feck all, Dyche is a fraud
i.e. a good season
Burnley won feck all, Dyche is a fraud
Did they?
City, United, Spurs, and Chelsea would have been most people's predictions for top 4, or at least in mine.
The expectation among Liverpool fans was top 4, I would say.
Scraping 4th on the last day of the season isn't exceeding expectations, in my opinion.
You're obviously being sarcastic, I hope. Dyche is very well respected.
I know one of the more talented lads on Burnley and he said that despite receiving better offers elsewhere from similar clubs, he chose Burnley because of Dyche who is very well respected in the dressing room and has a good rapport with the players.
But we also shouldn't really be comparing Liverpool with Burnley.