klayton88
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It's important we don't overreact but I think we'll get relegated this season.
I agree, I just think these friendlies are exposing Jose a little bit that's all.. A great manager gets the best out of what's available, this doesn't seem to be a strength of Mourinhos which is a bit telling. I know it's pre season etc, but it defeats the purpose of a friendly if we aren't allowed to evaluate and judge.If anything, Lukaku and Pogba havent played yet and Fred is a talented midfielder who could be very important this season. They key players havent touched a ball pre season so i'd uphold any judgement until the team actually lines up with all the players.
How so? Bailey, Darmian, Mata, Sanchez, Herrara still on the pitch.. Its almost like liverpool youngsters are better than those players.Second half was a reserve match. Some good minutes for Fred.
Yeah LVG beat Liverpool and others with goals galore then lost to Swansea. Moyes pre season in Asia was poor, relying on Zaha to equalize against sides I've never heard of.Maybe I'm thinking of LVG's first preseason then.
I'm struggling to see how people can miss this point...You can feck off with that shit.
The result isn't important but the performance is a worry. We look as disjointed and shambolic as ever.
Yes. We were fantastic that game.Pretty sure it was LVG. Didn’t he dismantle everything before him including beating Real 3-1 that had a Bale and Ronaldo in the team.
Mourinho had a similar pre-season in his last season as Chelsea boss.Moyes effect.
But we have a disjointed pre season squad.I'm struggling to see how people can miss this point...
Yeah but it's only a friendly mate.Well that was fecking shit. Not sure I can take another season of relentless passes back to the keeper for him to hoof it long. Missing a lot of first teamers but we sure managed to recreate all the worst elements of their football from last season. Complete pile of piss, from start to finish.
We didn't attack because we had two midgets up front that the keeper kept pumping long balls towards, which were inevitably headed back. We couldn't build through the midfield because Herrera was a bit cack and Sanchez was getting fouled all over the place when he touched the ball.Even if we had our first XI out there, we'd play exactly the same way. Probably wouldn't have got smashed as badly but its indicative of the season to come. Why do we never attack anymore? You can say it's only pre-season but there's nothing to suggest we will improve in that sense this season compared to the previous two. I'd say we need to buy more players but like I said, we'd play the exact same cowardly brand of football we've seen under Mourinho regardless of whose on the pitch.
But did you expect something completely different this (pre)season? I mean, come on, Mourinho is the manager for the third consecutive season, and our "style" of play is not going to change anytime soon. I've had enough of him after the last season, which in my eyes was shite, and watching United play was like a chore to me, but even I in my pessimistic, grumpy nature can't be half-arsed to rage about the result and the style of a preseason friendly. Maybe I am just becoming indifferent to the whole situation, and am not expecting anything special this season. The only hope that I have is that we don't end up like Chelsea, when they were fighting for their lives in December.In isolation you’d be right mate. But this outpouring of outrage is really the result of the football we’ve been subjected to since he got here. I don’t think anyone really cares about the result of a friendly. More that the way we play offers little hope for the future.
I’m actually not even that pissed off about the result. Liverpool and all. Very bloody depressed at the way we played the game though. All too familiar from the second half of last season. Soul destroying stuff.Yeah but it's only a friendly mate.
It's not your fault. Jose seems to bring the worst out of everyone.I apologise if I offended anyone with my cancer comment. As someone who’s own father died of the disease, I would hate if it caused anyone distress. Was not my intent at all.
This.We basically played with the same spirit as a Mourinho presser.
What did he say?Interview sounds like a stinker.
Ffs, just get rid.
No, you’re exactly right. I expected nothing different. I also expect this season to be a train wreck.But did you expect something completely different this (pre)season? I mean, come on, Mourinho is the manager for the third consecutive season, and our "style" of play is not going to change anytime soon. I've had enough of him after the last season, which in my eyes was shite, and watching United play was like a chore to me, but even I in my pessimistic, grumpy nature can't be half-arsed to rage about the result and the style of a preseason friendly. Maybe I am just becoming indifferent to the whole situation, and am not expecting anything special this season. The only hope that I have is that we don't end up like Chelsea, when they were fighting for their lives in December.
That's what people have an issue with. Put Lukaku etc into the team and yeah we might win the game by a goal or something but it'll still be the same pragmatic stuff.Well that was fecking shit. Not sure I can take another season of relentless passes back to the keeper for him to hoof it long. Missing a lot of first teamers but we sure managed to recreate all the worst elements of their football from last season. Complete pile of piss, from start to finish.
But it's just more of the same from last season and I think if we had the full squad we'd still see same incoherent football.But we have a disjointed pre season squad.
Is this a surprise to anyone?
I hear you. As i replied to another poster- this game hasnt really provided new insights. This team gives away chances to easily- if anything- if there was any desire to strenghten the defense this game would hasten that desire.I agree, I just think these friendlies are exposing Jose a little bit that's all.. A great manager gets the best out of what's available, this doesn't seem to be a strength of Mourinhos which is a bit telling. I know it's pre season etc, but it defeats the purpose of a friendly if we aren't allowed to evaluate and judge.
How is today any different to any of the stuff we've played in the last two seasons? The only difference is we had largely no big names playing that. When things get tough, we are a hoof ball team, as demonstrated today, whether you like to admit it or not. No hint of plan B.We didn't attack because we had two midgets up front that the keeper kept pumping long balls towards, which were inevitably headed back. We couldn't build through the midfield because Herrera was a bit cack and Sanchez was getting fouled all over the place when he touched the ball.
We had a reserve side that's just playing for fitness, it's a meaningless game that wasn't really any indication of our intentions to attack or not. It was hardly a cowardly brand of football.
He literally got on like a lunatic in the pre-Brighton (cup) presser after getting knocked out by Sevilla and his backers lapped it up (really stuck it to the press). They'll not be bothered.Even taking the meaningless nature of the game -
Listening to that Mourinho presser, can his cheerleaders possibly stand by this utterly negative and derisive individual?
Seriously, he's making me hate football
He said that he can trust some players but not others. That Bailly played injured but that Martial had a baby but should have been back in time for the match.What did he say?
Alot of negative rubbish.What did he say?
What did he say? More complaining and negativity or what?Even taking the meaningless nature of the game -
Listening to that Mourinho presser, can his cheerleaders possibly stand by this utterly negative and derisive individual?
Seriously, he's making me hate football
No he wasn’t apparentlyWe were generally poor and disjointed. Liverpool looked a more complete squad with more players available. Perreira was very good.
This, it’s like they don’t realise they are the ones that turn threads in to absolute sess pits with their constant moaning and need to comment on every single negative post. Added a few more to the ignore list tonight, saw some threatening to leave, please please be true.So predictable, the anti-moaners who show up and pretend like everyone's worried about the pre-season result rather than the shite football.
So basically the tactics were nonexistent. Why is that not cause for concern?We didn't attack because we had two midgets up front that the keeper kept pumping long balls towards, which were inevitably headed back. We couldn't build through the midfield because Herrera was a bit cack and Sanchez was getting fouled all over the place when he touched the ball.
We had a reserve side that's just playing for fitness, it's a meaningless game that wasn't really any indication of our intentions to attack or not. It was hardly a cowardly brand of football.