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Mourinho or Pogba?

If it was an either/or situation, who would you rather United keep?


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Miscemayl

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Think it's obvious Pogba won't stay for long. We are merely a stepping stone for him and his agent needs him to keep moving to earn more money. The manager is merely a convenient excuse.

Always believe backing a manager over a player (the SAF way) and it's a no brainer this time. Pogba will go regardless of whether we sack Mourinho or not.
 

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I'd get rid of pogba, you can count his good games on one hand and with that poisonous agent of his will forever be angling for a move. Mourinho doesn't come out of this well but feel this time I'd back the manager 100%.
 

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People seem to be under the impression that Pogba will stay if Mourinho goes but I don't think this will happen. I reckon both will not be at United this time next year and I'd be perfectly fine with that.
 

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I'd get rid of pogba, you can count his good games on one hand and with that poisonous agent of his will forever be angling for a move. Mourinho doesn't come out of this well but feel this time I'd back the manager 100%.
I would agree with you if Pogba was one of the few not playing up to his level. As it stands, we know Pogba is capable of being a good player fairly consistently as he showed in the past at Juventus and with France (although that was mainly in the latter stages of the world cup). Right now, the team as a whole is not performing, in three years we have yet to see a clear idea of what Mourinho's team is looking to do. We don't have a clue, and the players certainly don't seem to have one either so in that case, I'm siding with Pogba. I just wish he had a different agent, SAF was absolutely right in his assessment of Mino Raiola.
 

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After the last week of happenings, I think there should be another option. Both. Neither are going to be here long. Only way Pogba stays for many years is if we win the PL and go deep in the CL. We've got a snowball's chance in hell of doing that anytime soon.
I agree. Mourinho was never the right manager for us, a short term fix. Pogba has left once already, has said stuff in the press and as truly talented as he is, hasnt performed with any consistency at all.

My guess, Mourinho will be gone by Christmas, should go to Italy where he can still be a huge success. Pogba will still be inconsistant for the rest of the season. What would people rather have a truly talented player performing 30% of the time or a really good one performing 80%. Being unhappy, maybe with the manager is one thing, not performing or respecting the club is another £150m or whatever if anybody would pay it, if I was the manager I would take it in a heartbeat if I could spend it on replacements

If a player is unhappy and doesnt want to be here, go, no player is bigger than the club and no player bar DeGea in this side is a major loss anyway from the performances.

Could have an element of sympathy for Mourinho with the lack of backing recently from the board. Can have a bit of sympathy for Martial, Pogba etc being unhappy with the manager......but stop the whinging, get your head down and do the job.

People slated the likes of Valencia and YOung, yet they give there all and have been good servants and done a decent job too, several players actually not good enough have too.

But then think of some of the recent stuff, contracts, agents, public outbursts Mourinho, Fellaini, Pogba, Martial, none appear to love the club, can all leave.

Player should be good enough that havent performed like Bailly, Shaw, JOnes, Sanchez prove yourselves this season or you can go.

Players just not good enough like Lindelof, Darmian, Rojo, McTominay....seriously get rid.

ALso thanks for your service, you have had the right attitude but dont really fit what we need Mata, Herrera and Lukaku, bye.

From what I see only players who deserve to be here are DeGea, Romero, Young and Valencia (this season anyway), Smalling, Matic, Pereira, Fred, Lingard, Rashford, Dalot, Gomes, CHong. All the others I couldnt care about for different reasons.

This is probably the hardest United side to support I can ever remember for so many reasons.

Lets get rid of stale Mourinho, unhappy unloyal players, deadwood and someone else rather than Edward Deadwood to deal with transfers. Identify some proper young talents to add to some of the exciting young ones we already have. For every Pogba there is a NDembele, every Sanches a SAncho just as for every Coutinho there is a Salah.

There are very few players in history unreplacable, certainly not in this current squad. A Europa cup and a second place really masks and misleads that progress has been made.....really, has it anything other than marginally?

Personally think there is nothing to lose in buying in exciting young players....can they do much worse in terms of performance and consistency than the majority of our players have anyway the last few years?

Take away the commercial aspect, take away the great dominance up to a few years ago and just think of NOW. Now, we are probably in need of things changing from top to bottom and someone with balls to do a major job....like Fergie did. They wont get the time, but think of the talent he got rid of very quickly due to the attitude, the young exciting talent he bought in both from our own league and players we didnt even know like Schmeichel, Solkjear, Kanchelskis....that is exactly what we need
 

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Football is a team game do you really think that being in a World Cup winning team makes him anywhere near the player that Scholes was ? Who would you have in our midfield Scholes at his peak or Pogba ?

I know Mourinho has had issues with Scholes as well, but what you call Scholes attacking him is nonsense he is simply telling it as it is and most of the time it is exactly what the fans are also saying.
Pogba thinks he is bigger than the club , the class of 92 were never that far up there own backsides, I thank god Fergie isn’t managing anymore he would absolutely hate managing the likes of Pogba who thinks he is more important the team .
“Sanchez is hardly flash harry “ no of course he isn’t ! tweeting images of him modelling his new “ fashion “ range the morning after a horrendous defeat for his club ( the one that pays him half a million a year ) is absolutely fine !
Modern players spending their cash and using social media shocker

Get with the times dinosaur

Or stop following them on Twitter...
 

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Amazing how people can blame the Brighton performances on the players. Defensive mistakes were only half of United's problem. United had 3 shots on target all match. One came from a dodgy penalty decision, another came from a fluke deflection that somehow ended up on Lukaku's head, and the other was Pogba's long range shot which required no team play.

United are awful going forward under Mourinho.


No idea why Pogba is a scapegoat for some fans.
 

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Amazing how people can blame the Brighton performances on the players. Defensive mistakes were only half of United's problem. United had 3 shots on target all match. One came from a dodgy penalty decision, another came from a fluke deflection that somehow ended up on Lukaku's head, and the other was Pogba's long range shot which required no team play.

United are awful going forward under Mourinho.


No idea why Pogba is a scapegoat for some fans.
It's probably all bollocks but someone put it out there a high level source has said Jose is not giving instructions, he's just selecting the team. Imagine if that were true? Are the crop of players really that poor they can't go out an play football without instructions? If it were true, I'd say he'd be gone by the end of international break. It can't be true though.
 

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Get them both out. Jose needs to go because we need a major restructuring of the staff at the club and get Pogba out because he's more focused on his image and he has an agent that will give us a headache for the foreseeable future.
 

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I'm not a Mourinho fan at all right now but I'd back him over Pogba 100%.

Genuinely hope we do sell him for a good profit and get rid of him, his silly antics and toxic agent.
 

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Realistically, both. But if we were to choose, Pogba should go as it is doesn't matter if Mou stays or not, Pogba looks like leaving anyway.
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
OMG. I know he had a bad game but watching it again is like punishing yourself.
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?

OMG. I know he had a bad game but watching it again is like punishing yourself.
It is so painful to watch.

The vast majority of those mistakes (and there's many that weren't included in that video) were completely his own fault.

They weren't down to tactics, they weren't down to a problem with Jose, they were down to him being extremely sloppy.

The guy has bundles of talent, and played well last week, but frustratingly never seems to be consistent.

Is it self-motivation, laziness, ego-driven? I don't know what's going on inside his head but what I do know is that he's paid a ridiculous wage to put in good performances for Manchester United every week.

We've been waiting a while for it to happen, and just when we think he's going to kick on after winning the World Cup, he starts saying strange things to the press, puts in stinker of a performance and his agent acts like a dick on Twitter.

Jose has many faults, and hasn't handled the situation brilliantly, but I can understand why he may be frustrated with Pogba to be honest. Pogba needs to be doing more.
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
There are coaching issues and also bad decisions. A portion of these are the desperation hail mary lobs/dinks the whole team often resorts to for a lack of passing options. Another portion is him forcing things and needlessly trying to dribble round defenders. Those are his fault.
 

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There are coaching issues and also bad decisions. A portion of these are the desperation hail mary lobs/dinks the whole team often resorts to for a lack of passing options. Another portion is him forcing things and needlessly trying to dribble round defenders. Those are his fault.
I do agree that coaching is an issue within the team, and that there should be more running off the ball to create multiple options for players, but in the vast majority of incidents there is a player available to pass to, but he isn't switched on enough to spot it or execute it quickly enough.
  • 0:05 - he has two simple options. One - easily lay it into Lingard. Lingard could then lay it into Lukaku, and we'd be in a dangerous position. Two - turn around, pass it back and the team can start again. He tries to play a ball over the top and executes it badly.
  • 00:14 - he takes far too long on the ball. He has a simple ball to Shaw on the left. But he gets tangled up.
  • 00:23 - simple ball if he looks left. He puts his head down, gets closed down, plays an awful pass, then gives away a foul.
  • 00:37 - did well to gain possession of the ball. Had the right idea to give it to Lukaku, but Lukaku got blocked and it was badly executed anyway
  • 00:45 - he does't have many options so can understand the dink over the top. He executes it badly though.
  • 00:55 - no words needed
  • 01:05 - he had an option, he took that option, but executed it really badly.
  • 01:10 - he had an option on the right but decided the play the ball into the box himself. Executed it badly.
  • 01:17 - he had an option on the right but decided to dink the ball into the box. Executed it badly.
  • 01:23 - received the ball in a tough spot. Can't blame him for not getting out of that situation. Gave a foul away seconds later.
  • 01:37 - had an option in front of him, played the hollywood ball, not quite good enough.
  • 01:43 - sloppy control, never got himself out of trouble, gives away foul.
  • 01:56 - no options in front of him but didn't even look up and ran straight into trouble. Should have held onto ball before laying it off, even if backwards. Gives away foul seconds later.
  • 02:10 - gives away needless foul
  • 02:14 - didn't protect the ball well enough, would have had an option on the right, gives away foul seconds later
It was so frustrating to watch. He just wasn't switched on enough to spot those options, and when he did play the correct ball, he executed it badly.

I know it's easy for me to sit here and only focus on a selection of bad moments, but there was an awful lot of them. He should be doing better and hopefully he sorts out his head before Spurs.
 

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Neither if they cannot get over their squabbling and work towards the betterment of this football club. I wouldn't mind if Pogba, Martial & Jose all leave next summer and we press the reset button. I have enjoyed enough title wins in my life because of Sir Alex, I can wait a couple more years if Eddy shows the desire to build something that is sustainable long term and is built on the ethos this club has followed during it's successful periods.
 
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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
My God, that performance was woeful.
Pogba "There are things I cannot say..." Like, maybe, "I was s*** on Sunday."
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
Hopefully all the redcafe Pogba fanboys will watch this and stop blaming everyone and everything except PP himself for these woeful performances. He really disgraced himself last Sunday,
 

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Modern players spending their cash and using social media shocker

Get with the times dinosaur

Or stop following them on Twitter...
Ok trendy boy You don’t have to be on twitter to know what this clown is tweeting because the press can’t wait to report it to show what a self obsessed idiot he is , makes me laugh that a footballer can be so obsessed that he promotes himself so much even when he is playing badly and has at least half of his fans turning against him
 

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Going back to how Mourinho handled the Rooney situation I think the sly old dog is handling this one very well also. By praising the player, giving him the armband, refusing to criticise him or respond to his and his agents comments (and in turn pushing them to disgrace themselves even further) he's suddenly become the good guy in the situation.

Back to the main topic it's really more of a question of whether you want Mourinho to stay. Pogba is gone, and even if Mourinho went tomorrow he wouldn't stay very long.

He played 3/4 good games at the World Cup and now he thinks he is a footballing God.
 

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I would get rid of Mourinho if there was only 1 choice, but like a few people I think we would be better if they both went. Pogba is playing like this and coming out with the quotes is proof he has no desire to stay here and wants out. Same as Martial, whats the point forcing players to be here if they are not giving their all every game?
 

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Ok trendy boy You don’t have to be on twitter to know what this clown is tweeting because the press can’t wait to report it to show what a self obsessed idiot he is , makes me laugh that a footballer can be so obsessed that he promotes himself so much even when he is playing badly and has at least half of his fans turning against him
His fans are turning against him?

Not sure what that means but I don’t blame social media for him being shit the other day. United have deeper problems and it’s not just Pogba or Sanchez
 

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Going back to how Mourinho handled the Rooney situation I think the sly old dog is handling this one very well also. By praising the player, giving him the armband, refusing to criticise him or respond to his and his agents comments (and in turn pushing them to disgrace themselves even further) he's suddenly become the good guy in the situation.

Back to the main topic it's really more of a question of whether you want Mourinho to stay. Pogba is gone, and even if Mourinho went tomorrow he wouldn't stay very long.

He played 3/4 good games at the World Cup and now he thinks he is a footballing God.
I got a feeling this false praise and no moaning since the start of the season is more to do with Woody bollocking him after the moaning and throwing players under the bus pre-season. Mourinho wouldnt suddenly change tack, unless forced to.
 

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Amazing how people can blame the Brighton performances on the players. Defensive mistakes were only half of United's problem. United had 3 shots on target all match. One came from a dodgy penalty decision, another came from a fluke deflection that somehow ended up on Lukaku's head, and the other was Pogba's long range shot which required no team play.

United are awful going forward under Mourinho.


No idea why Pogba is a scapegoat for some fans.
Because he has done virtually nothing since he joined you could count how good games on one hand. It's not Mourinhos fault Bailly had one of the worst games I've ever seen a CB have ?
 

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Let them both leave. And ffs, never deal with that cnut of an agent again.

Jose seems to have forgotten that football is about attacking too. And Pogba plays well for 1 in 4 games, and doesn't give a feck for the rest.
 

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I got a feeling this false praise and no moaning since the start of the season is more to do with Woody bollocking him after the moaning and throwing players under the bus pre-season. Mourinho wouldnt suddenly change tack, unless forced to.
I have sensed a hint of sarcasm in his ramblings off late. Which is not a good sign, imo. Feels like he is going through the motions now and bidding his time till he is let go. Shades of the "Mourinho season" at Chelsea.
 
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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.

OMG. I know he had a bad game but watching it again is like punishing yourself.
Some of the missed passing are decent attempts, he just messes them. However the pointless ball retention in midfield does my head in, when will he fecking learn that there is no point in showboating. We all know he's awesome and he can dribble but ffs in some sequences he plays like a stupid petulant child who wanna show to everyone he's the best instead of doing the best thing for his team (keep the ball moving)
 

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Manager > player assuming the manager is a good one and right for the club.

That is not the case here.
 

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I got a feeling this false praise and no moaning since the start of the season is more to do with Woody bollocking him after the moaning and throwing players under the bus pre-season. Mourinho wouldnt suddenly change tack, unless forced to.
Agreed. It wont last though and will revert to type
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
We'll be lucky if Barca still want him by next season.
 

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Hmmm, I wonder... keep a top class (but not world class imo) midfielder who doesn't really want to be here and has a scumbag of an agent OR keep an all time great football manager (top 10, arguably top 5) who's likely past it but wants to be here.

Tough decision...

I think we should keep the one who has 1. more respect for the club and 2. wants to be here more. Answer: Jose Mourinho.

Anyone who thinks Jose will be gone by the end of the year is either: 1. Aware of an assassination plot to kill the manager, 2. Clueless on how Man United has dealt with previous managers or 3. is delusionally biased against Jose.
 

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I got a feeling this false praise and no moaning since the start of the season is more to do with Woody bollocking him after the moaning and throwing players under the bus pre-season. Mourinho wouldnt suddenly change tack, unless forced to.
Bollocks. How do you know this happened? ffs
 

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Is Jose or the coaching team to blame for this?


I'm not exactly Jose's biggest fan, but my personal view is that despite his flaws, he gives more of a feck about the team and club at the moment than Paul Pogba does.
Still makes me laugh when people were comparing Pogba’s passing skills to De Bruyne’s the past season
 

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Bollocks. How do you know this happened? ffs
The fact he went from bollocking to praising in a short space of time gives me suspicions, but just like you assuming otherwise, I'm assuming as no-one knows really