He was clocked at 70 mph (in a 30mph area and in wet conditions) with almost 1mg of alcohol. Initialy sentenced for 21 months in prison after the 19 yrs old female passenger died, he was fined €61,000 and got a driving ban for three years.
Lloris arrested for drink driving
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In the UK the families wishes would not have mattered. Good chance he'd have gone to prison I reckon.
You get those hard men who say they can drive after 3. I can drink 8 and feel reasonably sober but would never drive after 1 or 2 as your reaction is different and only a sad wanker will not understand that.
Especially seeing this 'wish' can in fact be a 'deal' when it comes to the rich offenders.
So stupid... Just order a damn taxi.
That's what I don't buy about the "Alonso paid to stay out of prison" narrative that I sometimes hear. I've never met a parent who would accept a bride to keep their daughters killer out of prison.
Exactly.
Add people who have conversations with passengers whilst driving. They should also be given mandatory prison sentences.
I laughed my @$$ off lol
Well yes, 1 pint is enough to put you over the limit in some countries, like Norway, where the limit is 0.2. But England has a very high limit (0.8).
Salah's was still worse.
You'd rather believe they didn't charge him (as it should matter anyway) out of mere sympathy then? Then it would mean they didn't really perceive him as a direct 'killer' so surely some financial compensation would've made it even stronger? How many cases there are of parents seeking financial compensation for third part's mistake resulting in their kids/relatives' death? Does it give the loved ones back to them?
That's not even taking into account I find it hard to believe you go around and ask your mates if they would accept a bride... etc. Creepy to say the least. I've got a daughter myself and I know what I would've done, in this case to Alonso. Just saying people can be different you know.
He says that he takes full responsibility for his actions.
Who else is supposed to take responsibility?
Who else is supposed to take responsibility?
Always amazes me. Another one is 'I hand myself to the police' well you really don't have a bloody choice, do you.He says that he takes full responsibility for his actions.
Who else is supposed to take responsibility?
Sympathy is not the word I'd use. The person who died was a friend of Alonso, I'm more inclined to believe they thought it was a horrible accident than they took a bribe to keep their mouth shut.
Of course people are different but I can't comprehend a parent accepting "hush money" in this situation and that's what is often spouted by those who use an horrific situation like this as a stick to beat Alonso with, it just does not make sense.
What were you expecting here, Lloris performing Seppuku?He says that he takes full responsibility for his actions.
Who else is supposed to take responsibility?
I believe this is where that came from. I have no idea about the publication, if its respected or just a Spanish daily mail. But I pretty sure thats where the paying of the family comes from. If I read it correctly it says that theres a moral clause that he has to give the family money. But because he gave them more than he was legally obligated to, and because he didnt dispute any facts, he get the reduction and then fine. I dont know nearly enough to state for a fact I know, I dont. Just what I heard and this as far as Im aware is the source. Break out your favourite translator and judge for yourself.
https://www.larazon.es/deportes/fut...icidio-imprudente-KK11829120#.Ttt1tx736HpW7Jm
You're trying too hard here Hugo, face it, you fecked it up.
Why didn't you just type gulag?
At the end of the day he did what he did and it's awful and sad and tragic. I have no idea about the Spanish legal system and I doubt I'll learn much Google translating a tabloid.
Spurs captain drink drives, Mourinho gets a moody press conference. What are the journalists most animated about..?
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Just one of those generic phrases people in the public eye come out with when they've fecked up.He says that he takes full responsibility for his actions.
Who else is supposed to take responsibility?
You're the far bigger club, and with Mourinho managing you, you're tasty clickbait. What is more interesting, footballer in being a bit of a nob shocker or Mourinho having a meltdown?
What meltdown?
Exactly.
Mourinho giving short answers doesn’t endanger any lives, just some journalists egos.
But look at this:
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It doesn't matter if there is an actual meltdown or not, but the media have enough to make it seem that way, and they will do so because it's a more interesting narrative.
In this situation maybe not but normally it's relatively not a few and far in between case, unfortunately. What I don't like is the way you described it to Amar which would suggest he was unlucky to drink a sip too much and just have an accident. He drove over twice more than legal in wet conditions, being drunk. For a healthy guy the amount of 1mg is a bit more than a glass of wine. Assuming he isn't soulless twat, he must have had an absolute hell in his mind up to date whenever he thinks about that so I'm not for stigmatizing him in public all the time. BUT there are countless examples of mere mortals going to prison for killing somebody on the road not even being under alcohol or speeding. Know a guy whose boss pressure of not having a stop during his transport trip caused a fatal accident and he's served 2 yrs in prison. Had no problems with the punishment as he knew he'd deserved that.
That's, I think, what irks people, especially seeing we are talking about a civilized, equal country, not some dodgy shithole. Not an expert on Spanish law but I'd assume that in this current world, any sane guy will tell you he deserved to get jailed.
Two pints of Stella would put you over the limit. The old 'two pints is fine' mantra is a legacy of when we drank shite like 3.4% Skol in the 80s.
So you'd advocate a harsher sentence than we have for murder
Crazy isn’t it, people have a very twisted look on things. Lloris was an absolute idiot, totally wreakless and selfish and deserves absolutely everything he gets but he didn’t intentionally go out last night with the idea he wanted to harm or hurt anyone.So you'd advocate a harsher sentence than we have for murder
No, obviously he didn't but finding a middle ground between the ultra radical and liberal approach, he exposed himself to being a danger on the road being fully aware that his status will save him from harsher punishments. That's selfish and cynical and it will continue to be so in other cases as it's always been among these celebrity cretins. Imagine having a kickabout in a kids' playground, hoping no young 'un will be hit by the football. You don't really want them to be hit, do you?
How much alcohol does a Stella have?
Indeed
Of course not, and I agree entirely but when you have people who plan to hurt, rob, extort, etc, sometimes on a regular basis not getting life sentences, it’s hard to see the sense in jailing someone for a life sentence for driving under the influsence. We should maybe look at bringing the alcohol limit down to minimum. As seen in this thread their is a debate on what is allowable under the current limit.
The tinned one and bottles is 4.8%, I think the draght is stronger but could be wrong. Is still say 2-3 pints would be a risk in the UK, a lot of things come into question. Ones motsblisim that day, what has been eaten and most importantly how long ago was the alcohol consumed. It’s not just the number of pints.
Yeah, this is what I mean, if there's the slightest whiff of a story coming from the United camp the media will run with that. United generate clicks, not just from your own huge fanbase but because you're the most hated club in the country, so everybody wants to read about it. If there isn't really a story? Well, time to twist a narrative to make one ..
I think also Jose himself has his own big draw, over his last few jobs there is nothing but controversy. So biggest club in the land plus controversial manager equals stories.
Obviously he's been an idiot, but I doubt he was thinking 'haha, I'm a footballer, so I can get away with this!'. He was probably just a bit drunk, and thought he wouldn't get caught, like normal people do all of the time. Stupid mistake, deserves punishment.
Anyone saying 20+ years in fecking prison is just being utterly ridiculous.
True. The limit in UK is, imo, too high and potentially encourages drink-driving.
Think only one guy said so.