No but he made a newly promoted team to top10 and toop6 team to regular top4 team with a very limited budget. I am sure he'd do well here, he'd set a clear football tactics/philosophy, work with yougner players or at least players who have talent. I am sure we would get rid of Fellaini and McTominay and that makes us already a better team, would get the best out of Luke Shaw and all the players owuld enjoy playing for him - finally attacking football
L'Equipe : Zidane wants United job / all spaculation no updates
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Zidane's style isn't as offensive as people here seem the believe. I think his approach is very similar to Jose's. He just had better players. He won the CL the ugly way and his last La Liga season was a massive flop. Real weren't entertaining to watch, but they got the job done. The longer he was in charge at Real, the worse it got. It's almost as if he just inherited a great squad and only needed to be a good people manager to get the best out of them..
My bad, I remembered Bielsa's hilarious interview as Sarri's.
He's French not Italian just as French is the first foreign language we are taught in UK Schools, English is the first language the French are taught. He will have a basic understanding but clearly the lift he will give the club following the doom, gloom and unhappiness we are currently experiencing is worth every penny of the 12M to pay off Mourinho Contract!
I sort of feel this way too. I can't see Zidane wanting the challenge/headache honestly.
Give it to Benitez for the lolz.
Why the hell would ZZ want this job
Tbf why would they ? Especially when the likes of Barca, Madrid, Bayern and maybe even PSG will look to have a managerial change in the next 1-2 years or so. Why take such a toxic job ? If I were a top manager, I'll sure as hell wait for a better chance then take United job now.
However, pretty sure we'll approach Zidane and he may agree. Not expecting him to succeed though, to be honest.
One of my favs. But he'll probably be another huge mistake.
After their BEIN sport coverage of the match Richard Keys says we've already had talks with Zidane.
So our job is toxic? But those jobs are not? Those jobs can be equally as toxic and the supporters are far worse than you. Our supporters especially at games have been patient with Jose. If he was at any other club he’d be jeered and whistled.
Who care about supporters. These jobs will offer more chance of success and less headache that's for sure.
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He probably read that at the same time I did last night.
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The same man who said we'd approached Martinez.
Zidane isn’t going to Barca or Madrid.
Bayern and PSG would be easy and boring jobs. He wants to manage in England.
Conte has a point to prove after being sacked by Chelsea.
The difference between us and those other clubs is that they would have sacked him after getting embarrassed by Spurs. Whilst we just let this shit continue on for some reason.
Richard Keys has yet to be right on anything.
Isn't he unreliable though?
Nice little soundbite to throw out after we lost too, thats what separates the pro BS-ers from the rest of us.
In short yes, though I seem to remember he got one big United story right first but I cant be arsed to look up which signing that was.
They will have a better chance to succeed with minimal effort and less headache to think about. Yes or No ? Valverde is a terrible coach, not even loved by their fans that much but he was about to go unbeaten the full league last season.
If I were a top manager and I'm seeing the conditions at big clubs, sure as hell it's better for me to wait 1 more year than feck myself up with a job I don't if I'll be able to succeed or follow the others who failed before me.
Anyway, as I said we'll approach Zidane that's for sure and he may end here.
Cause he is a big fan of Martial and Pogba for example and he likes that you get a word in about transfers compared to Real on the top of my head.
Ah yeah cause Manchester United is a massive club.
Conte joined Chelsea when they finished 10th.
You know we still are a big club right? Maybe that’s why Zidane would want to join us? The challenge of making us great again is better than winning another Bundesliga with Bayern.
Scary thing is I can see Woodward hiring Zidane. Would fit the profile of the club.
I see one advantage with Zidane....and that is Bailly, Martial and Pogba….
And they have won the league 1 season earlier.
We're a big club in a complete mess, 3 managerial failure in a row and not even a single title challenge in 6 years.
Just being a big club in the name is sure as hell not enough.
And how many title challenges did Liverpool have before Klopp joined them? Like I told you previously the chance to make us great again is more motivating for some managers than winning a league with PSG or Bayern.
How petty is to mention the eye poke again. He's in peace with most managers and deflecting blame? Can't remember a manager who says yeah its my fault when he looses. It's completely OTT, let's agree to disagree.
First Klopp wasn't a tier 1 manager, and second, he had left BVB at this time after spending most of the season in relegation zone before finishing 7th iirc.
You're not giving good reasons except things like the prestige and challenge, something that I believe many tier 1 manager won't be fond of in our current state.
With PSG he wouldn't have been allowed to get into the bus after Sevilla.
What do you think he did after the Real Madrid Rafa debacle?
Wtf is tier 1 manager?
Everyone here wanted Klopp in 2013. Even in 2015 a lot of people would have binned LVG to get Klopp in.
I guess Potchetinno isn’t tier 1 too because he hasn’t won anything.
People want him or not, at this time Klopp was coming from a disastrous campaign with BVB fighting for relegation for most of the season before barely finishing 7th. He wasn't joining Liverpool as a serial winner. In fact he was joining a club at his own level at this time.
Well, God bless you if you think Poch is a tier 1 manager currently.
The only thing you have offered so far is that managers will hate easy and "boring" success in Bayern and La Liga to have a tough challenge they don't even know if they'll succeed in it or not and may end up challenging for top 4. If you believe that the second situation is far lovelier for a top manager who wants fast winning then there's no point continuing any farther.
Petty to mention the eye poke? How? I'm saying from a football managers perspective, he is as unlikable as they come. He has a history of cnutish moments, and I'm not sure how you can look past the eye poke which was disgraceful at the time? Theres loads of others too. In peace with most managers? Yeah maybe doesnt pick fights with everyone anymore since he cant back it up with trophies anymore. But its not like his fights with Pep, Wenger, Conte, and passive aggressive shite with Klopp was long ago. But all that isnt the problem anyway. Hes always been an egotistic cnut. The problem is that it looks like hes also a shite manager for Uniteds purposes.
So who is a top tier coach?
By your silly logic Wenger is still a top tier coach because he’s won 3 premier leagues.
If we go for Conte or Zidane they will come crawling.
So because we currently 10th, we should go for big Sam because all the other top tier coaches won’t want to join us apparently.
People downplaying what Zidane did at Real Madrid couldn’t be more wrong, he was pretty much perfect. His demeanor in the press conferences was perfect for the job, the way he got the dressing room together and most importantly, the ways he found to adapt the team midway through matches was fantastic. The squad was great but not as good as many think, he clearly overperformed.
The one negative thing people can point out about him was not being able to motivate the team at the start of last season but if United find themselves in the same position of not being motivated enough after winning the league and the Champions League, I’m guessing not many would be bothered.
With that said, I still think United should do with Carrick what Madrid did with Zidane, rather that getting the biggest name available yet again.
The approach needs to change, there isn’t a quick fix for the state Manchester United are in.
The one negative thing people can point out about him was not being able to motivate the team at the start of last season but if United find themselves in the same position of not being motivated enough after winning the league and the Champions League, I’m guessing not many would be bothered.
With that said, I still think United should do with Carrick what Madrid did with Zidane, rather that getting the biggest name available yet again.
The approach needs to change, there isn’t a quick fix for the state Manchester United are in.
In my dreams Sir Alex never retired at all, he's still leading us to glory and acclaim; real life can be such a bummer.
Lol your logic is all over the place it's getting silly now. Who talked about us approaching one of them or not. We'll approach Zidane and he may end up here. We're talking taking this job in comparison to other managerial jobs that may be available in 1-2 years from now and leave them for an unknown and risky challenge no one can be sure he'll succeed in.
I guess you hear a lot of this biggest club in the world thing from our media don't you ?
I don't think its a question of Zidane being the biggest name available, its more that hes the best manager available at this time, and we should give him the job before another team snaps him up. Under him we may win zero, but at least we'll be entertaining to watch.