Excuses are that he has lost his best players. But thats no excuse to be in 18th position with Monaco.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
They sold all their best players - now would be a good time to make a move for him
To be honest, I think any appointment other than the return of moyes would seem like an improvement atm, at least a breath of fresh air. Poch would be cool but can't see it happening. Zidane would on the surface seem exciting but then again a bit of a gamble. Why not Joachim Low? Plenty of experience and success on the biggest stages of them all. Obviously would have to put up with the finger sniffing antics but rather that than watching Mourinho tear the club apart
He has only 3 players from his league winning team. Monaco bought players with potential and not the finished product to keep the trend of selling for profit.
Indeed. Looking at his record he appears to be able to adapt a team to play to their strengths, changing formations to suit the players he has available, something that Jose can't or won't do. With Monaco struggling at the moment, it may be an opportune time to go for him.
I’d love to go for somebody completely the opposite of Jose; Julian Nagelsmann.
He’s doing a great job at Hoffenheim, he loves attacking football and is young modern and hungry.
I feel our young squad would embrace him better than Jose, and he could unlock the potential we have.
Obviously it’s a gamble as he isn’t massively experienced, but as it is we aren’t going to win the league, so why not give him a year or 2 to build with no pressure?.
He’s doing a great job at Hoffenheim, he loves attacking football and is young modern and hungry.
I feel our young squad would embrace him better than Jose, and he could unlock the potential we have.
Obviously it’s a gamble as he isn’t massively experienced, but as it is we aren’t going to win the league, so why not give him a year or 2 to build with no pressure?.
Already signed a contract with Leipzig
A couple not all and they have Falcao and finished 2nd last year.
He's definitely a strong contender no doubt. Just wondering if there's anything else going on there.
Hell no. Aren’t we all tired of tumescent, negative, defensive football?
I don’t want Simeone near our club.
A couple this year but there was a massive exodus of players last year and some other players left the year before that - including Martial. They've been a selling club for a while.
And what was Klopp's excuse to sit in relegation zone with Borussia for half a season?
Zidane would be a disaster,
We should have gone for Poch before Jose for me.
Poch would be ideal. I cant think of many better suited to what we need right now
We should have gone for Poch before Jose for me.
Poch would be ideal. I cant think of many better suited to what we need right now
My personal opinion is that I dont be believe a foreign coach is what we need right now. The club needs to get back to the right philosophy in terms of style and sticking by their youth. Another foreign coach would just muddy the waters further. Would like the club to appoint a director of football with a wealth of experience to ensure the club is run right from top to bottom then bring in a young manager who can deliver the right style of football in the long term.
Im not sure if he has been mentioned but what about Eddie Howe? He comes across as really likable character, very bright, very positive, he plays a right brand of football and has an ethos that I think would suit the Man Utd. Yes, he doesn't have the experience of dealing with a big name players and a club of our scale...... not many do but he has all the right characteristics required to succeed.
Im not sure if he has been mentioned but what about Eddie Howe? He comes across as really likable character, very bright, very positive, he plays a right brand of football and has an ethos that I think would suit the Man Utd. Yes, he doesn't have the experience of dealing with a big name players and a club of our scale...... not many do but he has all the right characteristics required to succeed.
In an ideal world Poch but he won’t be available so an interim manager until the end of the season like McKenna or Nicky Butt is the answer to the original question.
Exactly - it's football and these things happen it doesn't mean he's a bad coach.
What tactics does eddie howe use at bournmouth?
Play football. The total opposite from 5 at the back.
Should go all out for Poch
It got stale they parted ways. Dortmund fans aren’t crying out for stick by your manager. Tunchel came in and there philosophy stayed the same, which remains now. This is quite simply bigger than just Mourinho, however Mourinhio is the exact opposite of where we want to be.
I’m not gonna even pretend I know much about Bournemouth’s style aside from the odd highlights on Match of the Day or when we play them but the received wisdom is that they play decent football.
Couple that with the fact he’s young, doesn’t seem to throw his players under the bus and managed to get Bournemouth promoted to the top flight and keep them there means he might not be a terrible shout if Poch isn’t available. His career thus far is not dissimilar he’s just not had the chance to manage at a top six team.
Going the route of hiring managers based purely on their trophy haul clearly hasn’t worked for us and we need a new approach.
Before any Moyes comparisons get thrown around it’s important to note that his style of football was known to be negative at Everton and the fans were glad to see the back of him.
Couple that with the fact he’s young, doesn’t seem to throw his players under the bus and managed to get Bournemouth promoted to the top flight and keep them there means he might not be a terrible shout if Poch isn’t available. His career thus far is not dissimilar he’s just not had the chance to manage at a top six team.
Going the route of hiring managers based purely on their trophy haul clearly hasn’t worked for us and we need a new approach.
Before any Moyes comparisons get thrown around it’s important to note that his style of football was known to be negative at Everton and the fans were glad to see the back of him.
On Tuchel, my understanding is that he fell out with the board at Dortmund and left under a bit of a cloud so not sure how sensible a hire he would be.
They play a 442
Yeah! Get rid of the foreign players next. All UK all the way.
If Jose does not last the next few games is Eddie Howe worth a look at?
Edie Howe is terrible in the transfer market. The thought of him at United without a DOF is terrifying.
He's not won anything yet, nor handled a dressing room/club as big as ours.
Tough one. Everyone needs a shot, or to start somewhere, but look at how the disaster, that is David Moyes, turned out.
But I'd not be too keen at all. Though appointing big name managers has also not worked out for us, tbh.
If we were to give someone a chance/take a punt on someone "unproven" (i.t.o of big club experience or EPL at least), why not rather someone like the Shakthar coach (Fonseca iirc) or the Monaco coach (Jardim) - they have UCL experience at least.
Tough one. Everyone needs a shot, or to start somewhere, but look at how the disaster, that is David Moyes, turned out.
But I'd not be too keen at all. Though appointing big name managers has also not worked out for us, tbh.
If we were to give someone a chance/take a punt on someone "unproven" (i.t.o of big club experience or EPL at least), why not rather someone like the Shakthar coach (Fonseca iirc) or the Monaco coach (Jardim) - they have UCL experience at least.
Oh wow.
Hey, could be (marginally!) worse IMO - we had a suggestion of Big Sam on this forum the other day
If you really want him why not try to get him?
It may be that RB will accept some step aside money and move on to another target?
You can be sure that our club won't even try. We will go for the next free guy.
Guardiola did similar at Barcelona. He bounced back so why not Tuchel?
Do you think they should try?
You either need experience of managing a big club or being in a big club environment. You need experience of managing big name players, being a big name player or playing alongside big name players, I would also suggest you need experience of what big games, cup finals and European football is like in some capacity. Im pretty sure Eddie Howe, good as he has been up to his current level ticks little or none of these boxes.
We cant risk people being overawed by Manchester United. Moyes looked like a rabbit in the headlights most of the time despite managing a relatively big club in the PL before getting the job.
We cant risk people being overawed by Manchester United. Moyes looked like a rabbit in the headlights most of the time despite managing a relatively big club in the PL before getting the job.
We can sack Mourinho, and i'm not completely against that, but I think the manager is only the tip of the problem. There is obviously some huge deeper problems within the club, I don't know what exactly but there is something poison in our club. We've had 3 managers since Sir Alex retired and with every one of those we have ended up being desperate to see them sacked, is that a coincidence? I don't think so. All 3 of those managers were highly successful elsewhere, particularly LVG and Mourinho, Moyes didn't win trophies but he done a fantastic job at Everton. I'd love to know what way we'd be if we gave Moyes more time and backed him in the transfer market. Would we be worse off now? I don't think so, we are looking as lost and clueless as we have ever done since Fergie retired and chopping and changing the manager isn't going to change that. I bet any man a pound that if we get Zidane, by the time 2021 comes round we will be begging to see the back of him like we have the other 3, we've lost our identity, and I've no idea how to get it back, I doubt anyone does. I just don't know anymore.
This is my only concern - he would need the support of a DOF
I think they should employ a director of football first before even thinking about making a full time managerial appointment.
The only other employment they should make is a caretaker till the end of this season.
He's not necessarily a bad manager bur the job will be too big for and he will mostly be out of his depth here.
We need a DoF in place first before a new manager is brought in.
He'd be steady, I give him that....