Could Utd be sold soon?

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I for one welcome our new oppressive owners. Hazard on the left, Bale on the right, Kane up top. What beheadings?
 

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Im on about you saying ban me because I started a thread on a forum which I thought was what this forum is for to discuss things related to Utd. At the end of the day its a bit of fun, stop taking it so seriously.
You took that literally? No wonder you beleive The Star. Yarh, great fun.
 

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How about the human right atrocities that have been performed by the likes of the clubs sponsors? They don't seem to be so concerned when SA companies are sponsoring the club.

Again, confirms my point of half arse actions!
You can't expect everyone to know everything about every sponsor United have. There must be hundreds. You can expect that people could at least take a look at the owners though. It's fairly easy to find out the truth about City's real owners for example and take subsequent offence.

If you want to raise awareness link an article about our dodgy sponsors.
 
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So much silly comments. NO we wont become an oil club. Why? Because we generate our own revenue of 600m a year. The only difference would be that would be given back to the club rather than shared in dividends and letting our club be sucked dry.
 

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Please be true. Couldn't care less who owns us as long as we can compete with City and win the biggest trophies.
I don't understand why people who think like this don't simply change allegiance and support the most successful club. The net result is the same.
 

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People realize not every rich Saudi is part of the Saudi ruling regime right? Not saying I've looked into this but there are many rich Saudis who are actually critical of the ruling Saudi regime.

EDIT: I'd still dislike it but just saying the "I'll stop supporting United" stuff makes no sense. This is modern football. We are all a bunch of pawns making billionaires richer.
Maybe you should have looked into it. The Salmans literally rule Saudi Arabia. They are the ruling royal family who also double as ministers of the most evil and barbaric regime in the world which doesn't give a flying feck about any sort of human rights. It's already a tragedy that any western country is allied, or even friendly, or even has any sort of diplomatic ties with these supervillains. They should be boycotted by anyone with a shred of self-respect.
 

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saw that.

That would be The End for me.
No dude, It wouldn't.
If the club was sold to a billionaire who wants to pump money into the club (as opposed to The Glazers, who leach money out of the club), you'll be watching every single match we play, if only to see the Galacticos play football, for the World's biggest football club.
 

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Maybe you should have looked into it. The Salmans literally rule Saudi Arabia. They are the ruling royal family who also double as ministers of the most evil and barbaric regime in the world which doesn't give a flying feck about any sort of human rights. It's already a tragedy that any western country is allied, or even friendly, or even has any sort of diplomatic ties with these supervillains. They should be boycotted by anyone with a shred of self-respect.
Unfortunately everything you say is correct. However, our club already has ties with Saudi's...
 

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I for one welcome our new oppressive owners. Hazard on the left, Bale on the right, Kane up top. What beheadings?
Indeed.
We need to stop this oppression.
Being forced to watch the best attackers on the planet, play for our club, while they score many fantastic goals.
It would be utter torture.

:p
 

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Sure. Let them replace Woodward with Trump. Oh and appoint Kim Jong-un as the DoF. We could literally capture any player we want.
 

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Mixed feelings. Would be great to shut Citeh down and outbid them for players but the Saudis are some I find the most reprehensible and have been very vocal about it. Thus by beloved football club being owner by them...........
 

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I just want the Glazers gimps out of our club, the fact they have drained over £1bn from our club is sickening.
 

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There is no doubt that the Saudi regime is abhorrent. And, indeed, the UAE regime funding City is not something I’d want to ‘support’. However, I feel it’s a little naive of us to just write off the possibility of Saudi buyers at United and in turn to stop supporting the club.

The reality is Saudi investment is all around you. Any of you use Uber? The Saudis have invested $3.5bn there. Do any of you aspire to owning a Tesla? The Saudis have a significant stake in Musk’s operation. And as a matter of interest, how many of us question the source of the fuel in our tanks everytime we fill up at a station? I’m not seeing too many ‘boycotting’ their local filling station.

Yes it wouldn’t be the ideal change in ownership. Yes I’d question what the club is all about. But I’m doing that anyway under these US owners. Professional sport is so awash with money now that Saudi investment at United wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
 

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I just want the Glazers gimps out of our club, the fact they have drained over £1bn from our club is sickening.
I dislike the Glazers as much as the next man, but you simply cannot compare a bunch of money-grubbing yank businessmen to the Saudis - the latter are some of the most deplorable cnuts on the planet.
 

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Would prefer an international drug cartel to buy the club. At least those guys don’t pretend to be a legitimate entity. Beheadings, torture, kidnapping, oil, misogyny and now football.
Free samples for all fans. A baggie on every seat. That would be a great selling point.
 

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In an ideal world the class of 92 buy the club,however thats extremely unlikely so at some point some empire out there either Microsoft/Google,or an oil rich state will show an interest in Utd,I personally do not have a problem with this because currently we have owners who in 13 years have not fully addressed the debt,have been lining their own pockets and only interested in profit,IF Saudi for example were to take over the club then the debt is gone and we can categorically compete with any other club including City and psg for the very best talent,am not too bothered about the morality of it all,I just want Utd to be debt free and competing year in year out for the EPL and Champions League!
 

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What's more foolish is doing a half a job of standing on their high horses. Do it properly or just don't do it at all.

Also, you know you don't have to walk in a governments house to be heard? If that's all that has stopped you from doing half a moral high ground job, dm me, I can guide you in different ways you can make yourself heard to your government.
Actually I will probably take you up on that offer.
 

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Have you read their comments?clearly they're not doing as your aforementioned comments.

And who are you exactly telling me what to do? Don't act Billy big bollocks on forums. Speak respectfully or take some proper action, instead of some half arse shit like the posters you're defending!
Oh the Irony..:rolleyes:
 

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Indeed, also do people really think our many sponsors don’t have dodgey ties
Like which sponsor? Also it's a bit different having a sponsor. Also Dodgy things also lies on a spectrum and Saudi are on the extreme end of that as they've just chopped up a bloke inside their embassy in a foreign country. If some posters here detest people for hating on a regime that does something as despicable as that than I'm really worried about their moral compass and they'd basically be able to justify anything bad they do in life if they use arguments such as everyone is dodgey.
 

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In an ideal world the class of 92 buy the club,however thats extremely unlikely so at some point some empire out there either Microsoft/Google,or an oil rich state will show an interest in Utd,I personally do not have a problem with this because currently we have owners who in 13 years have not fully addressed the debt,have been lining their own pockets and only interested in profit,IF Saudi for example were to take over the club then the debt is gone and we can categorically compete with any other club including City and psg for the very best talent,am not too bothered about the morality of it all,I just want Utd to be debt free and competing year in year out for the EPL and Champions League!
:lol: unless Scholes inherited a couple of billion I'd day it's less than 'unlikely.'
 

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It's all relative. Some of even most of our sponsors might be dodgy. But there's a difference between fraud and blowing up a school bus. Or a man that puts his signature on judgements for women to have their head cut off.
 

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You would be hard pressed to find anyone outside of the governments and the private business owners who make money off of these deals, who isn’t absolutely appalled that the Saudis are allies of the US and UK.
Yeah ok but why only appalled? Can't you do more? I mean you must be able to do more. Why don't they boycott their own government and move away to a more politically correct country.

It's hypocrisy of the highest level in my opinion.
 

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Unfortunately everything you say is correct. However, our club already has ties with Saudi's...
It's one thing to accept sponsorship from certain middle-eastern businessmen of questionable character, quite another to allow an evil dictatorship to take control of your club entirely with the sole purpose of using said clubs brand as a means to launder their filthy image.

You have to draw the line somewhere, no?
 

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There is no doubt that the Saudi regime is abhorrent. And, indeed, the UAE regime funding City is not something I’d want to ‘support’. However, I feel it’s a little naive of us to just write off the possibility of Saudi buyers at United and in turn to stop supporting the club.

The reality is Saudi investment is all around you. Any of you use Uber? The Saudis have invested $3.5bn there. Do any of you aspire to owning a Tesla? The Saudis have a significant stake in Musk’s operation. And as a matter of interest, how many of us question the source of the fuel in our tanks everytime we fill up at a station? I’m not seeing too many ‘boycotting’ their local filling station.

Yes it wouldn’t be the ideal change in ownership. Yes I’d question what the club is all about. But I’m doing that anyway under these US owners. Professional sport is so awash with money now that Saudi investment at United wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Minority stakes in Uber and Tesla are just investments as part of MBS’s diversification strategy. If the Sauds were to buy United, it would be qualitatively different - a PR exercise to try to launder their horrendous reputation. I’d rather not participate in that process and, unlike buying petrol, it would be very easy to boycott it.
 

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I never said people were being disrespectful. Where I say that?
Have you read their comments?clearly they're not doing as your aforementioned comments.

And who are you exactly telling me what to do? Don't act Billy big bollocks on forums. Speak respectfully or take some proper action, instead of some half arse shit like the posters you're defending!
 

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It's one thing to accept sponsorship from certain middle-eastern businessmen of questionable character, quite another to allow an evil dictatorship to take control of your club entirely with the sole purpose of using said clubs brand as a means to launder their filthy image.

You have to draw the line somewhere, no?
Yea, I see your point exactly. I just don't understand the notion of cutting ties with the club if someone takes over?!

I am very attached to the club, maybe that's why I can't understand some people saying they'd cut ties with the club?!
 

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Yeah,IF you read on a bit further you will see the words "Extremely unlikely"....
Making it a completely pointless post.. You might as well have suggested Jesus of nazareth as a buyer.
 

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First of all, read the post that was written to me. Then, understand the context of my reply. If you still have difficulties understanding this, dm me. Let's not clog the thread which has no direct affiliation to the original post.
 

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Would prefer an international drug cartel to buy the club. At least those guys don’t pretend to be a legitimate entity. Beheadings, torture, kidnapping, oil, misogyny and now football.
I like how misogyny is proper cartel business now :lol:
 

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Yea, I see your point exactly. I just don't understand the notion of cutting ties with the club if someone takes over?!

I am very attached to the club, maybe that's why I can't understand some people saying they'd cut ties with the club?!
Yes it's an emotional thing and some people are also really affected by the actions of the Saudi government. For example: I couldn't sleep for the night when I saw the news about Jamal Khashoggi where they described how a staff inside the embassy heard the struggle, the cry for help, the sudden silence and use of bone saw to dismember his body. This was a guy who went to get his paperwork for his marriage and had absolutely no idea about what was about to happen to him. You should just allow people to feel anger towards the perpetrators of this heinous crime instead of questioning their moral stance. Yes we all love United and probably will still continue to support the team even if the takeover goes through. Yes, some may try to boycott the club but I know it's going to be extremely hard because United is so ingrained in our everyday life.