So let's talk about Eddie Howe....
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If only he was called Eduardo Howinho
That style of management was par for the course in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and one pioneered by Matt Busby and Jimmy Murphy as well as Bill Shankly at Liverpool. It was said that Don Revie knew the names of all employees of Leeds from the tea lady on up. Clough was like this at Forest (maybe learning something from his short stint at Leeds) and Joe Mercer at City. I always though this was very much a British style of management as opposed to a European one with their coaching set-ups. But, there again, I knew little of the European game then except for when we had a game against one of them.
I think your right. We won't get another Fergie or another Busby. Such a level of control at United in the hands of one man won't happen again. However, it was that level of control (or attention to detail if you like) that made success possible. Of course there's a downside, and we're seeing that now as we did in 1970. I'm all for taking risks and bringing in a bright young manager with new ideas and a name to make for himself. It has worked for us before but the risks are manifold and I wonder whether our owners would be willing to take them.
At this point, everything is a risk. We’ve learned that we can’t hire a mid-table manager to become the next Ferguson, we’ve learned that their previous experiences, reputations and achievements don’t matter. We’ve also learned that defensive managers don’t mesh well here. A lot of us knew these things beforehand. But, our new ceo has learned expensively on the job.
The next logical things would be to see, how do work with an attacking coach. Or we could just go with conte and become a Chelsea wannabe club
Some managers are only good with small clubs with less or no pressure, perfect example David moyes at everton was doing well got champions league chairman probably expected at least top 6, as soon as he comes to man utd he's in the press the pressure mounts and mounts what's going wrong david why's this player playing why's this player not playing etc etc. he couldn't handle it and the same with eddie howe bournemouth no real pressure just keep them in the premier league but as soon as the heat hits at utd there is no chance he will survive no way it will prob be worse than moyes.
Absolutely ludicrious suggestion which player would want to come and play for eddie howe they'd be like eddie who ?
Jose for me 2 CB's will give him the freedom to play, the players are missing chances and making schoolboy mistakes left right and centre and jose's the one getting it in the neck, ok he's had the money he's bought some shit but so did fergie, kleberson, djembe, veron, taibi, nani didn't exactly do well as expected.
Absolutely ludicrious suggestion which player would want to come and play for eddie howe they'd be like eddie who ?
Jose for me 2 CB's will give him the freedom to play, the players are missing chances and making schoolboy mistakes left right and centre and jose's the one getting it in the neck, ok he's had the money he's bought some shit but so did fergie, kleberson, djembe, veron, taibi, nani didn't exactly do well as expected.
I don’t know if you watched United the season after ronaldo left, Nani was pretty damn good that season.
Veron wasn’t “shit”, he had some great champions league nights.
It’s nothing compared the what Maureen has bought with Bailly, matic or Sanchez etc.
He’s shown he can’t be trusted with making transfers here. He wants established 28-29 year olds instead of building a solid long term foundation.
Bourmemouths draws and losses go unnoticed by the masses. If he were to manage a top 6 club he like moyes would realise a win every other week is not acceptable
Agreed, he and Berbatov basically won us the league that year.
He's not at a top 6 club though, he's at Bournemouth. A win every other week is fantastic.
Give any manager in the league those players and that transfer budget and not many would do that much better.
Hats off to him, has that team playing a nice brand of football. Very aggressive and very crisp, totally ran out of gas in the second half though.
The difference between Moyes & Howe is the players they are using.
I look at the Bournemouth team & it's crazy that they are doing so well. In Moyes's team I could always pick out some players that would help them be a one of the better clubs in the top 8 but Bournemouth
I look at the team and I have no clue how he has such players that should be in the championship playing consistently in the PL and at a very good position.
I look at the Bournemouth team & it's crazy that they are doing so well. In Moyes's team I could always pick out some players that would help them be a one of the better clubs in the top 8 but Bournemouth
I look at the team and I have no clue how he has such players that should be in the championship playing consistently in the PL and at a very good position.
Logical, really isn’t it? I’m actually starting to understand why he’s being mentioned by some here as a Mou replacement, and think I’ll try to catch a couple of their next games, because they played some excellent stuff today.
Or Sean Dyche
He will be the obvious replacement if Poch leaves Spurs.
David Brooks was easily the best player on the field until he got shunted out to the right when we started to take over in the second half. He looked real class. Someone to keeep an eye out for this season.The difference between Moyes & Howe is the players they are using.
I look at the Bournemouth team & it's crazy that they are doing so well. In Moyes's team I could always pick out some players that would help them be a one of the better clubs in the top 8 but Bournemouth
I look at the team and I have no clue how he has such players that should be in the championship playing consistently in the PL and at a very good position.
Genuinely what kinds of comments are these? He isn't at a top 6 club and people putting him by these standards are frankly insane imo. It doesn't necessarily mean he can step up to a bigger job but similarly, people being 100% sure that he won't be able to are speaking nonsense.
Right now, I'd say he's the most impressive manager in the PL, with achievements vs the status of the club he's at considered.
David Moyes finished 4th once, in a long period of being in charge at Everton when the league was less competitive and got knocked out in the playoffs without actually playing the CL. He played boring as hell football and the Everton fans were warning about that from early on. The fact that Howe actually plays good football is immediately a positive that Moyes didn't have. I'd say his achievements with Bournemouth are on a different level to anything Moyes has achieved, though not necessarily transferrable to a bigger club.
Do people on here think that managers from smaller clubs literally never step up to bigger clubs to manage? Its a wonder how they ever find managers to lead their teams out.
No actually, they'd be like 'Oh Man Utd want to sign me? And they want to give me £200k a week? And I get to play in one of the biggest club stadia in Europe? Yes please, where do I sign?'
I like him. Plays through ground, passing from back, no hoofing, lot of cut backs instead of aimless crossing to the box, brilliant off the ball runs from strikers.
They lost but completely played us off the park in the first half. Cracking football from Bournemouth and they could have been up by 3 goals at HT and as a United fan, you wouldn't have called that an unfair result.
I really like Eddie Howe, and believe he should be at least considered to replace Mourinho when the the comes for that decision. He wont be the front runner and rightfully so but I think he's an excellent manager, he's progressive, he's only 40 years of age (FFS) and he's done a smashing job at Bournemouth playing classy football.
I really like Eddie Howe, and believe he should be at least considered to replace Mourinho when the the comes for that decision. He wont be the front runner and rightfully so but I think he's an excellent manager, he's progressive, he's only 40 years of age (FFS) and he's done a smashing job at Bournemouth playing classy football.
The difference, for me, between the two, is that Moyes' played the football of the underdog. His approach was a minnows approach and hence he was completely out of place at the most successful side in English football. Eddie Howe doesnt have a big reputation but his football is aggressive and intended to dominate. The mindset of his football ideas are in tune with that of a big club.The difference between Moyes & Howe is the players they are using.
I look at the Bournemouth team & it's crazy that they are doing so well. In Moyes's team I could always pick out some players that would help them be a one of the better clubs in the top 8 but Bournemouth
I look at the team and I have no clue how he has such players that should be in the championship playing consistently in the PL and at a very good position.
I was wishing we played the kind of football they play yesterday. Forward passing, runs in behind the defence, putting everything on the line in tackles, holding onto the ball and taking the foul rather than pass sideways or backwards. All really positive play from them. He is a good manager and I'm sure he'll be given a chance somewhere 'bigger' than Bournemouth eventually.
That's not only disrespectful towards Howe but also towards United assuming if he becomes our manager, it shows how little you think of United we have struggled relative to our standing recently but we still are big draw irrespective of manager.
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Yeah, Howe's team play out from defense, even if they lose possession they still try it. Even when they clear the ball from defense, it's well directed clearances. Moyes did well at Everton but like you said it was underdog mentality and relying on aerial duels.
Howe's team keep the ball on the ground and plays good combinations in attack.
Put a young pep or mourinho on the current bournemouth team they'd win a cup or probably finish higher than howe.
People forget that klopp and jose has been there done that with smaller club (mainz and leira?).
People forget that klopp and jose has been there done that with smaller club (mainz and leira?).
I’ve always found it bizarre how Sean Dyche gets so many plaudits in the media. Burnley play dire football under him, even when they finished 7th last season.
Bournemouth play open, expansive football that has kept them in the league. Finishing 17th or above is a success for them every season given the size of the club and they players they have.
Howe is a massively underrated manager who I feel will never get a chance at a bigger club he deserves. He will probably stay with Bournemouth until they get relegated, by which point everyone will think he’s not a good managers anymore.
He'll have to do it at a bigger club than Bournemouth. I was hoping Everton went for him instead of silva, but I guess we'll have to wait some more time.
You're right. I'm 100% agree with this.
Eddie needs to move to the bigger sides like West Ham, Everton or probably replace Pochettino when the time comes.
This is actually silly and I'm almost certain you're joking but the problem is that many people would actually think this, where do people get these opinions from? You realise there are only two domestic trophies? And currently 6 very powerful domestic teams? You realise Bournemouth were in league two when he initially took over? And have the 3rd lowest wage bill?
Also, neither klopp nor Mourinho won trophies with those teams. And pep has always had the dominant team in the league and failed at winning anything initially with City, before dropping a few more hundred mil to beef up his team.
If Howe were to become our next manager, I am convinced our style of play, attack and excitement levels would all improve massively!
The only doubt would be if he can tactically out-class the clubs in the top echelons of the game and make the difference in those big moments that win you trophies and separate the great managers from the good (Guardiola V Klopp)
The only doubt would be if he can tactically out-class the clubs in the top echelons of the game and make the difference in those big moments that win you trophies and separate the great managers from the good (Guardiola V Klopp)
He wouldn’t attract world class players. We’d be signing lower tier foreign players and any ol’ Englishman with a bit of talent.
Bring in Zidane and world class players will want to play for him.
Bring in Zidane and world class players will want to play for him.
I've watched Bournemouth a couple of times this year and I've seen him make changes that completely change the game. De Gea saved us yesterday, they had 2 good chances in the second half..
I think "joke" is a bit strong, but I do agree, if we hire a lesser known manager (like Moyes or Howe), things will go downhill, fast; this includes big name players being reluctant to join us, just as we saw in the Summer of Moyes.
You do realise that Jose is one of the most decorated managers over the last 15-20 years?
Most managers would do well to win even 25% of Jose's trophies.
How would you feel about capello or trapattoni becoming man utd manager?
That statement was silly.
But on the other hand Mourinho's past achievements sadly aren't stopping him from struggling/failing at Manchester United. If that was all that mattered we would have stuck with LVG for 6 years.
Talent and plays a brand of football that I'd pay to see. Also has an eyes for a player too...
We can't use Moyes as an example of why we shouldn't give a younger british manager a chance.
What Moyes did as a manager at that moment in time for us doesn't tell us anything about what would happen if a manager like Howe got the chance here now.
Saying that players wouldn't want to sign for us then is ofcourse nonsense.
What Moyes did as a manager at that moment in time for us doesn't tell us anything about what would happen if a manager like Howe got the chance here now.
Saying that players wouldn't want to sign for us then is ofcourse nonsense.
Check their cv? It's not a state secret
Check who's cv?
Maybe pep, jose and klopp. And see where they've been before they got the top job and what they have achieved.