I'm fairly certain it'll be in next season. All the other major European leagues have it, and even UEFA are embracing it. The PL are the last big holdouts.
VAR - Not the hero we want, the one we need
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We cannot rely on the incompetent refs and linesmen to make judgement calls which can cost teams tens of millions of pounds. They're fecking pathetically, laughably bad. Even the Fulham goal, there was no way the linesman could see whether Mitrovic was offside as Schurrle was blocking his view, yet he flagged offside. Wanker. Even the Liverpool goal should've been pulled back as the ball wasn't stopped and played whilst rolling.
Don't think it's being introduced in the UCL until next season.
Mitrovic was offside. Stop crying..
Match changing decisions were dealing with.
They need to be made correct.
They need to be made correct.
VAR wouldn't overrule the decision. The image is 50/50, VAR only overrules crystal clear things.
Like the ball moving when Allison took the freekick
Ahh, right. Thanks for the correction.
It wasn't 50/50 though, he was on side.
It's like Mata's goal they disallowed when he had a toe or half a foot offside, whatever happened to that rule?
VAR is working great in La liga, in Atletico game yday Godin winner flagged offside, despite him being 1 meter on. Easily corrected.
Premier League has the worst referees of any big league but doesn't have it... Dinosaurs
I'm watching less premier league games these days as it's soo frustrating with how poor so many decisions are.
Premier League has the worst referees of any big league but doesn't have it... Dinosaurs
I'm watching less premier league games these days as it's soo frustrating with how poor so many decisions are.
Offsides never are 50/50. They have a line so it's offside or not. But they were right one this one.
Uefa said that because of recent events( Sterling dive), they will decide on next meeting will Var be introduced in knockout phase this year
As per the WC system at least, VAR works on the basis that every offside is a black and white decision. The player is either offside or they're not. If VAR didn't overrule it it would be because he wasn't offside, not because it isn't clear one way or the other.
Looking at it he may have been offside after all, though even in that case VAR would still have helped by making it clear to everyone that this was the case. Liverpool still took the freeckick while ball was rolling, mind.
Thats how it works. Either you are or you're not. Toe or a finger doesnt matter.
Mate I was at the first match in the ENIRE WORLD where the first VAR decision was used, Red Bulls 2, I know how it works.
I also know they would have looked at this incident which at least would have negated LFCs cheap counter. That 15 seconds changed the entire complexion of the match, all myself and everyone in this thread is saying we want the correct decision, if it benifits my club is irrelevant.
So you are saying VAR is good because it would kill their counter attack? That's one of the most problematic aspects of VAR.
In my opinion, VAR won't solve all disputes/problems/incorrect decisions on the pitch, but it should improve the stats in terms of the % getting the right answer. Until everyone accepts this the system itself will still be controversial.
The application rules as to when and where VAR is used need to be tightened up and in particular how the ref's is attention drawn to a possible wrong decision. If anyone thinks players are not going to appeal to the ref to 'go to VAR' simply because they are told not to, then they are fooling themselves; refs need to be able to card players who are continually appealing, e.g. just like now when they start waving an imaginary card.
The application rules as to when and where VAR is used need to be tightened up and in particular how the ref's is attention drawn to a possible wrong decision. If anyone thinks players are not going to appeal to the ref to 'go to VAR' simply because they are told not to, then they are fooling themselves; refs need to be able to card players who are continually appealing, e.g. just like now when they start waving an imaginary card.
VAR awards penalty to United vs Reading
Took too long, perhaps, but that's a very good advert for the system.
No issue that it takes time if the correct decision is made
Why didn't the ref look at it himself?
It'll speed up. Imagine how big a deal would be made if it went to VAR and they got it wrong. They're just being careful at the mo.
Took too long and I still wasn’t convinced they’d give a pen. Was shocked when they did to be honest.
On another day that wouldn’t be given. Just shows the subjective nature of these var calls to me
On another day that wouldn’t be given. Just shows the subjective nature of these var calls to me
I like the wait tbh, builds suspense.
Seems odd to create a hypothetical situation where they get it wrong in order to whinge about one they got right, but ok.
Perhaps it took so long because they had to review 2 things at once, the offside and foul. But as you say, it's a prime example of why its needed
Because the ref had already decided it was a penalty. He double checked the offside and decided to call it back to the penalty decision or play play-on.
Once offside had been established he awarded the penalty.
Takes far too long, and with a stadium like ours that has no big screens for the crowd to see what is happening, it is c*ap
In theory, the referee being advised by the actual VAR assistant instead of the ref going to the touchline should speed things up, but it seemed to take even longer
Slow boring suspense to me.
I think VAR is obviously a good move and it's beyond debate. The next debate will be whether they should show the incident replays on the stadium screen or not while the crowd waits.
Slightly hypothetical ok, as @VeevaVee said, they took so long because they were making sure, which kind of implies it wasn’t really a clear cut decision, so I’m another day could go a different way.
Side note, I don’t know why people need to reply with passive aggressiveness to make a point, was there really need for your ‘but ok’ at the end?
I think they have to. They do in Rugby dont they?
It’s fine but they should just stop the clock - US sports style.
I cant believe there are still people like you complaining about it. It will speed up, obviously, but the important thing is the decision was right.
No VAR, no goal. We must prioritise the correct decision and not slightly irritating the fans in the stadium for 2 minutes.
Yeah they may do eventually. I think they want to protect refs over the decision making process is all.
I reckon it was pretty obvious, possibly not from the ref's position though. I don't think taking their time implies it wasn't obvious, just that they wanted to make sure. If someone comes out next week and shows clips where Mata didn't even get touched VAR is under fire.
I get many people think that, if not most, but there is for me I'm afraid. Would much prefer to let the ref decide, and if he doesn't see something he doesn't see it, get on with the game. I can't see the clock being turned back now though, so you've nothing to worry about.
VAR is great. Our implementation of it still needs some work, clearly. Over 2 minutes for that decision to be made is a bit unreasonable on my opinion, it's not like it was a particularly complex decision.
I don’t get this argument the decisions will be quicker when they’re more used to using it. Will time make the need to get it right any less important?