Weird meaning you have one guy who shows his players love and support and encouragement and one who turns away mockingly when your striker misses a chance. I know who I would rather play for any day of the week
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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You haven't a bloody clue what goes on behind closed doors though, do you?
Hate how I end up having to defend Jose against pure daftness. We've got enough facts to speak about without making stuff up.
Hate how I end up having to defend Jose against pure daftness. We've got enough facts to speak about without making stuff up.
Thats it guys. I have just called my father who is a devout Liverpool supporter and who has no interest in Utd. From the outside he thinks there must be something rotten with that manager. Says it all
You know things are bad when someone is watching the news on their free will.
That one with sexy translator voice?
Just the whole atmosphere. Night and day. That translates down to the players
I want him out as well, but I agree, there are things he gets hammered about unnecessarily in my opinion.
This notion that the players are upset that he has a go about them in public. So what? If he says the same things privately to their face, then they should be strong enough to deal with it.
Also, the reaction to Rashfords miss. Well it was a lot worse in the stands, it's a natural reaction to be disappointed. I've seen Klopp and Guardiola do that several times and no one says anything.
He still needs to go though!
True.
The players dont wanna know,Mourinho doesnt wanna know (wants his payoff), and the board dont wanna know (dont wanna give Mourinho is payoff) so we are stuck in total farcical limbo,yes Mourinho should go but cant blame him for hanging on for his payout!
I think the fans protesting after the game isn't a bad idea. I've always been against booing your team
Two things as add is that A) These days PL challengers are well equipped to do well in the CL. Liverpool look a decent get to make quarters or semis these days barring a difficult group. B) It's okay to not be CL challengers for the next 2 years or so as long as challenge for the PL
For how long does this have to drag on? Let's get rid ffs. It is not just the shit show on the pitch, it's the whole circus (and his comments) that complete the package.
Never saw this one. Must have had one too many. Seems he fell into the habit of slapping Giggs. And you know no man can be okay with getting slapped around in public
I miss LVG
Giggsy probably had his revenge with Mrs Van GaalNever saw this one. Must have had one too many. Seems he fell into the habit of slapping Giggs. And you know no man can be okay with getting slapped around in public
No. He genuinely made me laugh.Was that to make me reverse my opinion?
Giggsy probably had his revenge with Mrs Van Gaal
At this point even Sam Allardyce would be an improvement.
The board think they'll save some money if he's sacked when mathematically impossible to qualify for CL.
I think it's cheaper to sack him now. We pay Alexis almost 2 million pounds a month, he refuses to use him. Even when you'd thought Alexis was finding some form he's been dropped completely.
We paid north of 50 million pounds for Fred, he refuses to play him regularly even though other options are under performing.
We paid 20 million for Dalot, he doesn't look like he'll be trusted to get some important playing time this season, even though other options are very poor.
There is no development of younger players, those who get to play, like Rashford look worse than the day the broke through under LvG, those who don't play like Pereira are not likely to command a high fee due to lack of playing time.
The football, tactics, selections, demeanor, and progression of the squad have been absolutely awful. Get rid of him now.
I think it's cheaper to sack him now. We pay Alexis almost 2 million pounds a month, he refuses to use him. Even when you'd thought Alexis was finding some form he's been dropped completely.
We paid north of 50 million pounds for Fred, he refuses to play him regularly even though other options are under performing.
We paid 20 million for Dalot, he doesn't look like he'll be trusted to get some important playing time this season, even though other options are very poor.
There is no development of younger players, those who get to play, like Rashford look worse than the day the broke through under LvG, those who don't play like Pereira are not likely to command a high fee due to lack of playing time.
The football, tactics, selections, demeanor, and progression of the squad have been absolutely awful. Get rid of him now.
How have the phone ins on mutv been lately?
They sold him
They did buy him (twice) once when he was 21 and once when he was 26.
Ed and the board are total feckwits who only think in binary. Boot this man and get in an interim who can coach a semblance of attacking chemistry into this lot. We won't win anything this season but it could be a nice springboard for the next manager when implementing his blueprint. Salvaging the next season doesn't have to start in June.
Instead they are content to damage player and fan interest because profits are stable
Instead they are content to damage player and fan interest because profits are stable
Plus sacking him and hiring another guy mid season, it's a lot of work. You have to call in Mourinho, have the chat with him, pay off his contract, arrange who's in charge in the interim, look for a new guy, negotiate with him, sort his contract out etc.
Much easier to just fecking do nothing, let Mourinho stumble through to the end of the season and go from there. We've seen since the Glazers turned up they are reluctant to do anything on the football side until they absolutely have to. Both Moyes and Van Gaal should have been sacked way earlier than when they were.
I wonder how he will talk about the club when he will not be here anymore. If he can not stop criticizing the club/board/players when he is still here, imagine the things he will be saying when he is no longer contracted with us. He's exposed for the fraud he was at this club; I think he now hate this job with passion and want to save his skin, reason why he always seems to defend himself or take credits for everything.
I just laughed. It had to be Fellaini from a long ball flicked on by Lukaku. Just had to be.
I want him out, but its' a bit over the top to refer to a highly decorated manager as a fraud, even if you are only taking his current job into account.
Mourinho did not fraud his way to anything. He came, he genuinely tried, he failed and now he's deflecting, that's all.
I'm already prepared that he will spout extreme bullshit against the club and everything in it once he's gone. It's why I don't hold back with him anymore. He's a narcissistic cnut that grows worse with age.
‘Why would we care about results, entertainment, fans wishes, players leaving and progress when we’re making a truck load of cash from you?’ The Glazers (2018)
He's gonna join forces with Moyes and LVG, and together they'll form 'the Unholy Trinity'.
We know Jose already, when things go bad he separates himself from the club. Take last night for example, didn't take any responsiblity. Just spouted on about players missing chances and then reminding us of his past achievements.
He doesn't care about United, only himself.
I left at 80 mins last night to get the train, and i left absolutely fuming after being served up that shit show again. My mate text me and said we had nicked a goal, and to be totally honest i felt nothing. I honestly did not care. I was so seething that he just puts out the same thing again and he honestly got lucky. Just felt such a disconnect with the team.
And the fact it was Fellaini scored I made the comment that this just gives Jose fuel now to act a smug mouthpiece after the game. and bang on about his record probably.
And guess what,...He does exactly that! He comes out and talks complete bollocks with this nonsense about how great he is at qualifying. Talking like he just played a masterclass. And then i seen his silly reaction for the goal. Me me me. He just loves making it all about him. And the reaction to the Rashford miss.. jesus christ. Thats him again trying to con the fans once again that its not his fault and working with rubbish players.
I was happy to see Fred on, he plays a good one/two touch game, moves the ball quite quick. He looked lightening beside Matic and Fellaini in Mf.. But of course thats not what 'Jose style' players do, so Jose got him off asap, as per usual, and kept the other two on.
He a fraud. A conman. Im tired of his excuses, his behaviour, baffling tactics, toxic atmosphere etc. I honestly cant wait till hes gone. The longer we leave it, the more damage is going to be done to the club. And if we somehow let him sit there until the end of the season or into next summer, we can wave bye bye to DeGea / Pogba / Martial / Mata /Perieira and perhaps a few other of our good players.
And to be honest, if your one of them people happy and content simply that we won that game, and think he should get more time, your as bad as the board. Because thats exactly their mentality. Dont care about the footy, just the fact we are through. Just see numbers.
And the fact it was Fellaini scored I made the comment that this just gives Jose fuel now to act a smug mouthpiece after the game. and bang on about his record probably.
And guess what,...He does exactly that! He comes out and talks complete bollocks with this nonsense about how great he is at qualifying. Talking like he just played a masterclass. And then i seen his silly reaction for the goal. Me me me. He just loves making it all about him. And the reaction to the Rashford miss.. jesus christ. Thats him again trying to con the fans once again that its not his fault and working with rubbish players.
I was happy to see Fred on, he plays a good one/two touch game, moves the ball quite quick. He looked lightening beside Matic and Fellaini in Mf.. But of course thats not what 'Jose style' players do, so Jose got him off asap, as per usual, and kept the other two on.
He a fraud. A conman. Im tired of his excuses, his behaviour, baffling tactics, toxic atmosphere etc. I honestly cant wait till hes gone. The longer we leave it, the more damage is going to be done to the club. And if we somehow let him sit there until the end of the season or into next summer, we can wave bye bye to DeGea / Pogba / Martial / Mata /Perieira and perhaps a few other of our good players.
And to be honest, if your one of them people happy and content simply that we won that game, and think he should get more time, your as bad as the board. Because thats exactly their mentality. Dont care about the footy, just the fact we are through. Just see numbers.
Calling Jose a fraud is so hilariously small time and simply wrong? I get the anger, but seriously.
Even after a win he found a way to make me dislike him even more
Not in this context (United). We have to decide whether the things he says are self-serving...or not. Many of us have made our decision.
I have to say that as much as I would like Mourinho to walk, hes under a constant barrage of criticism from pundits and ex-United for little things like reacting after a miss. Its uncalled for and its embarrassing.
The man somehow got us to second place last year but apparently even the way he walks is a call for dismissal.
I get punditry but this is bordering on offensive and total disrespect at this point.
I find myself in the strange position of having to defend Mourinho but some of these pundits just say things because there's a camera on them.
The man somehow got us to second place last year but apparently even the way he walks is a call for dismissal.
I get punditry but this is bordering on offensive and total disrespect at this point.
I find myself in the strange position of having to defend Mourinho but some of these pundits just say things because there's a camera on them.
I think it's quite simply that he was never the right fit for us, and anyone who said it was right all along. At times I've said he'll never be successful at a top club again after us, but honestly I'm not sure I believe that anymore. He just won't be a success here.
perhaps Fraud is a little extreme of a description. but he is indeed a con-man, that appears to be his priority these day, to convince fans hes doing great considering what he has and hasnt been backed..
My frustration with him and his whole situation is just completely off the chart at the minute
Yeah they bought him. He asked who else in the top 8 would. Chelsea thought it was a good idea, at least once. And definitely once without Jose in charge.They sold him
They did buy him (twice) once when he was 21 and once when he was 26.
Oh for the love of christ, who gives a flying fcuk!!!???
'Somehow'
DDG got him 2nd let's be honest any another goal keeper and we would've been 4th/5th or lower
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