The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Got to wonder what wouldve happened if Mayweather fought Pacquiao in his prime. Just a beast.
 
Got to wonder what wouldve happened if Mayweather fought Pacquiao in his prime. Just a beast.
Styles make fights. I think Pacquaio being a southpaw with odd angles, hard to read movement and next level explosiveness would have Mayweather in such a shell he'd not mount enough offense to win enough rounds and I'd say Pacquaio edges a boring 12 round decision around 115-113 type cards.

Marquez, though smaller and not as good as Mayweather had such success because he was willing to walk through fire and had no fear so whilst cautious he made sure to attack and put mustard on his shots. I don't think Mayweather is of that ilk hence why he seemed the most object to this particular match. Marquez countered to hurt you, Mayweather is a point scorer who'd try to get a round in front and then play down the clock.
 


It is odd that this fight isn't in the UK really.

I don't think it's a huge deal in the US. Fury is well known over here (and Wilder is a decent sized name to) and ultimately the winner should fight Joshua probably at Wembley, everything is set up there for it to be in the UK .
 
It is odd that this fight isn't in the UK really.

I don't think it's a huge deal in the US. Fury is well known over here (and Wilder is a decent sized name to) and ultimately the winner should fight Joshua probably at Wembley, everything is set up there for it to be in the UK .
Yeah, it’s bizarre that it’s in LA. Believe me, I work in Downtown LA (where the fight is) and I’ve not seen one billboard or even a poster for this fight. I’ve heard the sales are very slow. I think the promoters overrated Wilders drawing power. In my job even more people had heard of Fury than Wilder and to think Wilder thinks he deserves at least 50/50 with Joshua lol.

I think Brooklyn would have been a better fit. The tickets were outrageously priced too. They advertised $70 seats for the day they went on sale and the first hour the cheapest you could get were $1000 so they tried to pull a fast one and act like it’s sold out. A few hours later you could get $300s at that point I was turned off so decided I’m not going to this fight and now they’ve finally released the $70 seats and they aren’t even selling. PPV will be lucky if it cracks 200k buys whereas initially the PBC fans were saying it would be north of 1m.

A big fight, a greatly intriguing one but it’s well under the radar here and there’s not even one Mexican on the undercard. Just an odd event for LA.
 
Yeah, it’s bizarre that it’s in LA. Believe me, I work in Downtown LA (where the fight is) and I’ve not seen one billboard or even a poster for this fight. I’ve heard the sales are very slow. I think the promoters overrated Wilders drawing power. In my job even more people had heard of Fury than Wilder and to think Wilder thinks he deserves at least 50/50 with Joshua lol.

I think Brooklyn would have been a better fit. The tickets were outrageously priced too. They advertised $70 seats for the day they went on sale and the first hour the cheapest you could get were $1000 so they tried to pull a fast one and act like it’s sold out. A few hours later you could get $300s at that point I was turned off so decided I’m not going to this fight and now they’ve finally released the $70 seats and they aren’t even selling. PPV will be lucky if it cracks 200k buys whereas initially the PBC fans were saying it would be north of 1m.

A big fight, a greatly intriguing one but it’s well under the radar here and there’s not even one Mexican on the undercard. Just an odd event for LA.

That's mad. I think this event could end up hurting Wilder in regards to the Joshua fight if sales are as bad as its sounding from that post.

Brooklyn would make more sense state side and also can get people travelling from UK easier as well. I thought if they put it in the UK they could sell out every arena (Manchester Arena sold out quick for his return fight) and if a stadium was free they'd probably fill a decent sized one, it's turned people off over here now cos it's PPV at 5am, if it was over here I'd go and watch it or at least buy the PPV, now I'll justwatch on YouTube on Sunday morning.
 
That's mad. I think this event could end up hurting Wilder in regards to the Joshua fight if sales are as bad as its sounding from that post.

Brooklyn would make more sense state side and also can get people travelling from UK easier as well. I thought if they put it in the UK they could sell out every arena (Manchester Arena sold out quick for his return fight) and if a stadium was free they'd probably fill a decent sized one, it's turned people off over here now cos it's PPV at 5am, if it was over here I'd go and watch it or at least buy the PPV, now I'll justwatch on YouTube on Sunday morning.
I’m unlikely to even go to it because of the stunt they tried with the tickets. Also Stevenson-Gvozdyk is on Showtime just before the PPV starts so don’t want to miss that.
 
He looks to be doing really well physically and mentally. Now, I don't think he'll ever get back his top form after what he did to his body but I tend to think he'll have enough to at least deserve to get the decision this weekend.

Yeah, I think so too. Either that or he'll get sparked clean out. It's one hell of an equalizer when you got a right hand from hell itself.
 
The point is that no regular Americans know their HW champ. If you live in LA and know Tyson Fury, you’re obviously a boxing fan.
And those people would also know Wilder. There would be plenty of non sports fans in the UK who would have no idea who Fury was either, and his fame certainly pale in significance when compared to Joshua, or other past champions.
 
And those people would also know Wilder. There would be plenty of non sports fans in the UK who would have no idea who Fury was either, and his fame certainly pale in significance when compared to Joshua, or other past champions.

Sideshow. What matters in what happens in the ring Saturday. Who cares if casuals are interested..money men aside.
 
Really pumped up for this fight. Wilder should win but you can never count Fury out, he looks so much better than he has recently. Would love to see an upset.
 


Wilder has lost his marbles lol

Head says Wilder 10th round KO, heart says Fury 10th round TKO
 
He's a bully. Trying to intimidate writers for FFS. This is from a man who assaulted another boxer in front of his wife and kids and openly said he wants to put Brezeale in a wheelchair so his child feels the pain of seeing his dad like that. He's also said he wants to kill a man in the ring and has been caught choking out a woman before. He's a racist scumbag.
 
Looks like Fury has gotten to him. He looked rattled and kept repeating the same old BS. It's hard to even match Tyson when it comes to talk. For now the edge is definitely with Fury i think. If he gets his BJ Saunders footwork going he's going to frustrate Wilder no end. Another masterclass incoming? I sure hope so.
 
Hope fury wins, but I think Wilder will knock him out. Fury has looked average at best since his comeback.
 
Am I the only one who sees 2 guys desperately trying to sell the fight? I don't see anything genuine in these shenanigans at all.

It's an interesting fight in terms of both fighters looking to boost their negotiating power for the AJ fight because its risky on both sides.

I don't really rate wilder at all but I fancy him for this as its too early for fury given his lack of activity imo
Fury will jab and run for 10 ish rounds before getting caught when it'll likely be lights out.
 
Seeing a lot of boxers picking Fury for the win. Usyk, Lewis etc. But I'm still sure Wilder KO's him. 12 rounds is a long time for Fury to hold and spoil and stay away from that big right.
 
Seeing a lot of boxers picking Fury for the win. Usyk, Lewis etc. But I'm still sure Wilder KO's him. 12 rounds is a long time for Fury to hold and spoil and stay away from that big right.

Assuming Fury doesn't try and finish early. I just don't rate Wilder at all, I think Fury will outbox him easily but that big right will cause a problem if he starts getting cocky.
 
Assuming Fury doesn't try and finish early. I just don't rate Wilder at all, I think Fury will outbox him easily but that big right will cause a problem if he starts getting cocky.

I'll be amazed if Fury comes out fighting and looking to finish it. Ortiz probably showed the way to beat Wilder, he out-boxed him & had him in trouble. But that power Wilder has will cancel out everything.

Also want Wilder to win because the Joshua fight has the potential to be epic and the build up would be insane.
 
He's a bully. Trying to intimidate writers for FFS. This is from a man who assaulted another boxer in front of his wife and kids and openly said he wants to put Brezeale in a wheelchair so his child feels the pain of seeing his dad like that. He's also said he wants to kill a man in the ring and has been caught choking out a woman before. He's a racist scumbag.

Yep guys a scumbag.

Am I the only one who sees 2 guys desperately trying to sell the fight? I don't see anything genuine in these shenanigans at all.

It's an interesting fight in terms of both fighters looking to boost their negotiating power for the AJ fight because its risky on both sides.

I don't really rate wilder at all but I fancy him for this as its too early for fury given his lack of activity imo
Fury will jab and run for 10 ish rounds before getting caught when it'll likely be lights out.

In all honesty it probably is like that, I doubt Fury is to fussed about it but it's still shitty stuff to do. The stuff he says is ridiculous and he just comes across as a dick.
 
Am I the only one who sees 2 guys desperately trying to sell the fight? I don't see anything genuine in these shenanigans at all.

It's an interesting fight in terms of both fighters looking to boost their negotiating power for the AJ fight because its risky on both sides.

I don't really rate wilder at all but I fancy him for this as its too early for fury given his lack of activity imo
Fury will jab and run for 10 ish rounds before getting caught when it'll likely be lights out.

I don't think Wilder will catch him... so Fury will jab and run his way to victory.

Can't see it being a very entertaining fight at all.
 
I don't think Wilder will catch him... so Fury will jab and run his way to victory.

Can't see it being a very entertaining fight at all.

....may be, but what is on the line ( no pun intended) makes it an intriguing one. Bums on edges of seats kinda exciting. For the casual fan that may be boring, granted.