Mourinho's team selections

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Starting his excuses early I see... The guy is so insecure about everything. Basically justifying his selection by saying "you guys kept asking why they aren't in so I'm putting them in so you'll see why they didn't play before". No backbone whatsoever. Even if he goes by that dumb logic though, it's still wrong. You can't put 1 player people have asked for and then surround them by shit and expect them to do well.
I similarities to Moyes more and more with Mourinho. Both incredible egos. All about reacting to the other team and 'spoiling' a game rather than proactively entertaining the crowd. Protecting their own personal reputation at all costs and at any opportunity.

Not saying they're same type of manager full stop but in terms of their reigns with United. A constant chip on the shoulder and promoting a distance from the club they're supposed to be connected to. It was all about Moyes as the individual and it's the same for Mourinho. Protecting themselves at all costs.

It's one of the most important qualities we need to look for in the next manager - someone who won't talk like this and accepts they are PART of this club and take the responsibility with that.
 

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Moyes has struggled after leaving us as well whereas LVG was an international manager whose last gig at Bayern went tits up and we all know about Mourhino's last season at Chelsea. We tend to hire managers who are mediocre or are past their best. Let's get someone who's on the up and see what happens.
So who is up there as one of the best??

Mourinho is a top class manager, we would be stupid to sack him. Most of our players are a joke... just look at our winning goal last night, it could have been given as a free-kick for accidental handball before it was put in the net, that's how bad our technical players are overall.
 

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Well he played Fellaini closer to Rashford to help with hold up, and after the game he did not blame Rashford and praised his work even though he didn’t score. So if people want to talk about selections, I think it is clear why Rashford doesn’t play much as the number 9 and it was clear before this game as well.
 

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So who is up there as one of the best??

Mourinho is a top class manager, we would be stupid to sack him. Most of our players are a joke... just look at our winning goal last night, it could have been given as a free-kick for accidental handball before it was put in the net, that's how bad our technical players are overall.
If you still think that, you haven't been paying attention for a long time.
 

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So who is up there as one of the best??

Mourinho is a top class manager, we would be stupid to sack him. Most of our players are a joke... just look at our winning goal last night, it could have been given as a free-kick for accidental handball before it was put in the net, that's how bad our technical players are overall.
Football management and tactics evolve over a period of time and managers and tactics sometimes becomes ineffective as time goes by. Mourhino is a manager from an era where where defensive organization was key to success and tactics were somewhat rudimentary, especially in the premier league where teams still played 4-4-2 most of the time. Now, with the emergence of Pep, Klopp and other modern managers who practice offensive patterns on a daily basis, his teams and tactics have become obsolete. Mourhino is still able to get results against bigger teams with his organizational ability (Liverpool at home last season being perfect example) but It is hard to keep players motivated to play such a system when the teams you're supposed to compete with steamroll opposition on a weakly basis.
 
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He wants the chequebook out and is trying to prove to the board that we need players in January. What is wrong with Fred. To me he is better than Matic or Fellaini atm. Mourinho don't like players that won't stay back in their own half.
 

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Fellaini, Matic, McTominay and Herrera all playing at the same time, starting to question Mourinho's sanity, he's the biggest fraud in football.
 

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Fellaini, Matic, McTominay and Herrera all playing at the same time, starting to question Mourinho's sanity, he's the biggest fraud in football.
Please suggest your alternative suggestion? Only available CB is Rojo, if you would trust him in the centre at all.

IMO this is the best formation that he can come up with. It would have worked better with Sanchez instead of Lukaku upfront but you know what. Martial in 2nd half perhaps.
 

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It seems strange to play a back three with two centre midfielders.

Surely you'd either put one of the full backs into the back 3, and start Valencia or Dalot, or more sensibly, have a back 4 so only one out of position centre mid is in there
 

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Only Mourinho could complain about having one centre back fit and then proceed to play a formation which requires three centre backs.
 

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Please suggest your alternative suggestion? Only available CB is Rojo, if you would trust him in the centre at all.

IMO this is the best formation that he can come up with. It would have worked better with Sanchez instead of Lukaku upfront but you know what. Martial in 2nd half perhaps.
I'd play him over Matic in a heartbeat. And have Dalot on the right with Shaw on the left. Southampton are strugglers, this game really was the perfect time to ease Dalot in (assuming he isn't injured, as I didn't read the reports).
 

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Please suggest your alternative suggestion? Only available CB is Rojo, if you would trust him in the centre at all.

IMO this is the best formation that he can come up with. It would have worked better with Sanchez instead of Lukaku upfront but you know what. Martial in 2nd half perhaps.
Why not give chance to one of our u23/u21 CBs? I mean a young player who has trained for that position would obviously be better than McTominay. We might even find a hidden talent like Rashford.
 

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Please suggest your alternative suggestion? Only available CB is Rojo, if you would trust him in the centre at all.

IMO this is the best formation that he can come up with. It would have worked better with Sanchez instead of Lukaku upfront but you know what. Martial in 2nd half perhaps.
Clueless post. There are so many options ahead of Matic as CB
 

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He also dropped Martial. After claiming Martial's recent form was because of his tough love and that he had improved Martial's game. But the slump isn't on him apparently.

So if a player stops scoring for a couple of games, he would drop him instead of figuring out what's wrong and managing him. But Matic starts even if hell freezes over.
 

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This transfer will go down as a monumental failure.Along with Falcao and Di Maria,Sanchez will be the 3rd high profile attacking South American superstar to flop miserably at United....We would Have better off without him,atleast Martial would have consistently played on the left last season...
Clueless post. There are so many options ahead of Matic as CB
As I stated, please suggest any alternative?
 

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Mourinho is a fraud, and will only speak of his past achievements when rightfully challenged on his performances with United.

The fact that the line up changes every fecking game is a major, major reason why this team always looks like they barely know how to play with one another. The fact that Lukaku or Matic are never held up to the same standard as most of the rest of the team is a disgrace. Anyone who is still defending Mourinho at this point is simply delusional and their opinion can no longer be taken seriously. How the hell do you expect a team to perform when they are changing players and formation almost on a weekly basis? You can try and practice the whole week before the game a new line up, but players don't actually build chemistry with it in practice as opposed to games, and before they know it next game will be a completely different line up with a fecked up starting XI.

I really hope Mourinho's comment of top 4 by Christmas will be his undoing so that the club can start the new year with someone else, it doesn't even matter who at this point. The man is a disgrace, and a disease at this club. But let's, by all means, hear him speak more of how great of a manager he used to be, and that it's all the fault of the players and they should be adapting to any ridiculous line up he comes up with on a weekly basis.
 

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Please suggest your alternative suggestion? Only available CB is Rojo, if you would trust him in the centre at all.

IMO this is the best formation that he can come up with. It would have worked better with Sanchez instead of Lukaku upfront but you know what. Martial in 2nd half perhaps.
Martial Rashford Lukaku

Pereira
Fred Pogba

Shaw Rojo Jones Dalot
De Gea
So you'd rather set up like Mourinho did today compared to this?

At the moment It's like Mourinho is playing a game on how many lethargic players he can get on the pitch at the same time. Disgusting to watch.
 

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We have a chance for top 4 still if we act now. A horrendous festive run would all but seal our fate in the league.
 

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He also dropped Martial. After claiming Martial's recent form was because of his tough love and that he had improved Martial's game. But the slump isn't on him apparently.

So if a player stops scoring for a couple of games, he would drop him instead of figuring out what's wrong and managing him. But Matic starts even if hell freezes over.
I think he rested him for the Arsenal game.
 

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We have players like Fred and Pereria who should be in the first 11. Mata has also has some good games this season. Fellaini and McTominay is suicidal when other better options are available.
 

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Bailly is still alive ain't he ? Smalling wasn't even injured I think
Neither Smalling nor Bailly was on the bench, which only suggested 1 thing. When someone suggested Rojo can be trusted in the middle, I have nothing to say, I respect someone's opinion. When someone suggest giving chance to another Academy player, we already started McTom so how many Academy players do you want to start as CB? Matic is the ONLY obvious choice to Mourinho to be trusted in the middle. Disappointment in on Fellaini and Pogba. Our attackers were not that better but they were on their own most of the time and somehow made up for their mistakes.
 

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Neither Smalling nor Bailly was on the bench, which only suggested 1 thing. When someone suggested Rojo can be trusted in the middle, I have nothing to say, I respect someone's opinion. When someone suggest giving chance to another Academy player, we already started McTom so how many Academy players do you want to start as CB? Matic is the ONLY obvious choice to Mourinho to be trusted in the middle. Disappointment in on Fellaini and Pogba. Our attackers were not that better but they were on their own most of the time and somehow made up for their mistakes.
That's the thing though, he chose not to put them on the bench. It is not like that decision was forced on him. It is dumb to have to play Matic as a CB when you have CBs available
 

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Finally we’re starting to feel like a Sir Alex United team, in that most of our defenders seem to be injured.
 

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I really can't fathom his selections! He bemoans the fact we don't move the ball quickly and press the opposition yet plays slow, cumbersome giants in midfield??? Are the assistant managers not questioning his reasoning??? Weird!
 

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That's the thing though, he chose not to put them on the bench. It is not like that decision was forced on him. It is dumb to have to play Matic as a CB when you have CBs available

That's Jose and his trying to prove a point to Woodward pretending he has no other options in defence because he wasn't allowed to buy Harry Maguire .

This is more important to Jose than actually picking the right players in their right positions and trying to win the match

This is his excuse if and when he gets sacked . I wasn't backed enough . Pure garbage like his football
 

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I would trust Rojo as a CB much more either than Matic or McTomminay any day. I would trust Rojo as a defensive midfield player than Matic now. Jose is taking the piss and he needs to go. I give Woodward full credit in not buying another 30 plus defender for an exorbitant price from David Levy.
 

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An actual central defender who has only trained once is still better than a midfielder covering in defence. Any day of the week. We don’t play 3 at the back well even with actual defenders, let alone two midfielders in the 3. It’s crazy.
 

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What he's doing to McTominay to protest Woodward's decision not to buy him a centerback is an absolute travesty and he deserves more criticism for it than anything else. I do not particularly rate McTominay but he doesn't deserve to be used as a protest selection and have his confidence destroyed playing out of position.
 

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The team selection was poor but the lack of tactics changes in the second half was baffling. Almost as if he wasn’t trying to win the game, is he really that clueless or out of ideas.
 

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The guy needed a win and he leaves 5 players in Defense and takes off his most influential player. He clearly actively is trying to lose there’s no way round it.
 

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So you'd rather set up like Mourinho did today compared to this?

At the moment It's like Mourinho is playing a game on how many lethargic players he can get on the pitch at the same time. Disgusting to watch.
Why would you want to have a striker who has poor first touch, the worst step over & poor ball control to play on the right?
 

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Not sure why he felt the need to play three at the back. Defensively, we never seem to do well with it. Also, we're against Southampton, for God sake. No disrespect to Southampton - they deserved their point today, but they're in the bottom three and a team we really should be beating quite comfortably.

Hindsight's great, but I just think we should be going with a 4231 against teams we'll dominate like we did last season.

Even with injuries, we could have gone with:

Rashford
Martial Lingard Mata
Fred Herrera
Shaw Matic Jones Young
De Gea
He's constantly faffing around with systems and personnel and people wonder why we can't put a run of wins together.
 

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Jose doesn’t even celebrate when we score. It’s like he wants to lose
Some of his Jose's team selections this season have been borderline scandalous. It's not beyond the realms of possibility, especially given his petty nature, that he is actively trying to lose in order to get the sack and his fat compensation fee.

Problem is the players keep bailing him out. Poor Jose must be furious.
 

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Some of his Jose's team selections this season have been borderline scandalous. It's not beyond the realms of possibility, especially given his petty nature, that he is actively trying to lose in order to get the sack and his fat compensation fee.

Problem is the players keep bailing him out. Poor Jose must be furious.
That's Jose and his trying to prove a point to Woodward pretending he has no other options in defence because he wasn't allowed to buy Harry Maguire .

This is more important to Jose than actually picking the right players in their right positions and trying to win the match

This is his excuse if and when he gets sacked . I wasn't backed enough . Pure garbage like his football
Yup. I’m basically convinced of this now. He has no real desire to improve us as a team. His only priorities now are...

1) Proving as many of his petty greivances right, even if it means tacitly engineering a scenario to do so (like playing Academy midfielders at CB, or refusing to make a single substitution)

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4) Helping Manchester United win football matches