[Maticmaker]

That's what we've been doing wrong, we should kick towards the Streford end first half every home match...see the difference it makes, all that attacking effort comes early rather than at the end.
Hope Jose has realised what the problems been?

 

[IRELANDUNITED]

Don't think we scored 5 in PL after 5-5 in SAF's last game

We scored 5 under moyes in Europe once, i can't recall another time we got 5 in any game post Fergie

 

[Ashley R1+O]

Excellent performance and more like a United side that I want to see, power, hunger and passion. Even 50/50 balls were falling our way all night, you make your own luck.

Small sample size but I think we're starting to see that the elephant in the room is Paul Pogba's inability to integrate into this setup (and the league in general). He's at a real crossroads at United and in his career in general, the Herrera/Mata/Lingard/Rashford pressing combination has worked much better in the last two games and I think going forward if we want to play faster paced, more clinical football in the middle third then there isn't room for Pogba there. Guys like Fred will integrate into this type of team a lot better and it puts into perspective Mourinho's comments about needing to cement the defensive aspect of this team a little better.

Fulham were dreadful though, admittedly.

 

[ash_86]

Very good performance from us at home after a while. D. Dalot was brilliant to watch. The way he stretched the play was very very satisfying to watch. His deliveries are amazing as well. Enjoyed the whole match after a very long time.

 

[Dante]

Perfect management from Mourinho.

I still have serious doubts that he can turn it around, but he's handling his stay of execution pretty well. The Pogba snub, together with our overall performance, should help underline the manager's authority an instill some work ethic into the squad. Whether a different manager benefits in the long term remains to be seen. But this match was exactly what we needed.

We're obviously a good side, as evidenced by the fact that we play like world beaters the minute we go behind. Jose's challenge is to make the team do that from the first whistle. I think his strategy of benching our main franchise player (to borrow an Americanism) in an easily winnable game was the correct one.

 

[KirkDuyt]

Flat track bullies!

 

[broccoli]

Have seen you play more fancy football this season. However, I must say, the team never felt as tactically balanced and cohesive as in this game and Arsenal's.

Could the absence of Paul Pogba immediately make the team structure tick? It's obvious Pogba has been strolling around in most games and I have even accused him of poor position on purpose but to make this much difference in the confidence of the other players?

Ashley Young, Matic and even Rashford sing a different tune now! *hic*

 

[nainaisson]

Could the absence of Paul Pogba immediately make the team structure tick?

We were missing Pogba for a big chunk of last season and looked considerably worse going forward without him. I think the recent upturn in form comes from having two genuinely attacking fullbacks and a willingness to press higher and stop playing such a low block.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

We were missing Pogba for a big chunk of last season and looked considerably worse going forward without him. I think the recent upturn in form comes from having two genuinely attacking fullbacks and a willingness to press higher and stop playing such a low block.

I agree. Dalot, Young, Mata and Rashford all had good games which properly stretched Fulham. I don't think a good performance against that side today proves we're better without Pogba, in the first half we attacked well and dominated the ball, which would have suited any of our attackers.

 

[Canagel]

Have seen you play more fancy football this season. However, I must say, the team never felt as tactically balanced and cohesive as in this game and Arsenal's.

Could the absence of Paul Pogba immediately make the team structure tick? It's obvious Pogba has been strolling around in most games and I have even accused him of poor position on purpose but to make this much difference in the confidence of the other players?

Ashley Young, Matic and even Rashford sing a different tune now! *hic*

No

 

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[Foxbatt]

This is Fulham the team at the bottom of the league and if we did not win this game at home, Jose should have been sacked on the spot. I am happy we got three points but the real test with the match against Liverpool.
Let us see how he sets up. I also do not understand why keeps playing McTominay?

 

[Mastadon]

Beating the worst team in the league and drawing against us at home is probably not the best run of games to draw a conclusion on. For some reason I actually would like to see Mourinho do well the man is a right arrogant prick and his remarks about Wenger showed his lack of class but he was the best manager in the world before he went to Real and arguably did a great job there winning the league and breaking Barca dominance.

He was a true winner and I have a soft spot for winners. It would take a miracle for him to start next season as Utd manager probably nothing less than a CL trophy. Still it would be nice for him to leave properly with a decent season behind him in 4th place as long as we are 3rd.

 

[Casanova85]

4-1 should be the standard result against ANY team below the 12th spot.

 

[cyril C]

Pogba is also more suited to the Champions League games, where the pace and levels of pressing tend to be lower than they are in the Premier League, so he gets more time on the ball. I suspect Pogba will be sold fairly soon, so it would be useful if he had a decent game.

It would be nice to try a few of the youngsters as well against Valencia, but I'm not sure what the rules are (most won't be in the Champions League squad list, but I' don't know if that's relevant for younger players).

I remember U21 players are "free" from squad list perspective. So we can do all-change. Perhaps just Matic, Smalling (injury?) DDG, Young. The rest can play 60/30min just to warm up.

 

[Isotope]

Excellent performance and more like a United side that I want to see, power, hunger and passion. Even 50/50 balls were falling our way all night, you make your own luck.

Small sample size but I think we're starting to see that the elephant in the room is Paul Pogba's inability to integrate into this setup (and the league in general). He's at a real crossroads at United and in his career in general, the Herrera/Mata/Lingard/Rashford pressing combination has worked much better in the last two games and I think going forward if we want to play faster paced, more clinical football in the middle third then there isn't room for Pogba there. Guys like Fred will integrate into this type of team a lot better and it puts into perspective Mourinho's comments about needing to cement the defensive aspect of this team a little better.

Fulham were dreadful though, admittedly.

We had a lot of games without Pogba, and it wasn't pretty.

Other than Rashford and Dalot being awesome, not much you can take from playing the bottom league team. At home.

 

[Ashley R1+O]

We had a lot of games without Pogba, and it wasn't pretty.

*shrug* we've had a lot of games with Pogba that haven't been pretty.

 

[Flexdegea]

4-1 should be the standard result against ANY team below the 12th spot.

Delusional outlook at football.



Me personally don't think Jose should be there as he ain't getting the max of the players but 4-1 ain't a standard all the time should be result ever in my whole United supporting career.

 

[RedDevil@84]

We scored 5 under moyes in Europe once, i can't recall another time we got 5 in any game post Fergie

Yes. Not in PL

 

[cheeky_backheel]

- think 4-2-3-1 should be our base formation going forward
- dual pivot with herrera helped matic as he had less ground to cover.
- lack of pogba and martial made our play simpler and more direct
- would be interesting to see martial on the left and rashford as CF in 4-2-3-1
- pogba should vie for the #10 with mata, fellaini and lingard
- dalot showed potential and should be first choice RB going forward
- lukaku looks to have lost some weight

overall good game that we can build on

 

[Keeps It tidy]

Delusional outlook at football.



Me personally don't think Jose should be there as he ain't getting the max of the players but 4-1 ain't a standard all the time should be result ever in my whole United supporting career.

Well that has been the standard for City this season.

 

[Flexdegea]

Well that has been the standard for City this season.

United won 13 leagues with fergie.......we tanked teams no doubt.........but goals scored and what's some teams have done is not the standard.


I can remember city scoring more goals than other United teams over the season and not winning the league......4-1 is not some sort of realistic standard benchmark for any team..........if it was there be about 110ish goals every season plus nearly 80 goals.......as I say realistic......like city do

 

[Adnan]

He had an excellent game from an attacking perspective. He was a consistent threat down that right-flank and his crossing ability is second to none at the club based on that evidence, but it's his defensive naivety (like he showed against Arsenal) that worries me.

Dalot could prove to be a massive liability when faced with the likes of Mane and Liverpool. I wouldn't start him next week if I were Jose.

He's faced Mane and Gomes playing as fullback for Porto in the UCL at Anfield.

 

[Ronaldo's Mum Eh?]

Dalot is mint.

Anyone saying he wasn't good enough for us after Wednesday (he's 19!) deserves to be taken outside and shot.

 

[Hamadovich86]

Good performance and win against literally the worst club in the league. I wouldnt get carried away with praise either, they somehow managed to pressure us in the second half and create some chances, which if you think about it its really really bad on our part.

Dalot needs to start, I dont think theres anything Young could do to make me think highly of him I want him gone or premabenched. Lukaku got another goal which can only be good for his confidence. Lots of positives which is good for a change!

 

[Jose Jaime Eskauriatza]

Welcome to first team regular status Dalot... so refreshing... Fred in second gear today, he needs games, here Jose has been right to be cautious, hope it doesn't take much longer to give an extra dimension alongside Pogba... would have the other team guessing that pair

 

[meamth]

Can we keep playing Mata just for that attacking pass combination? Our attacking play was so good because of him.

 

[Rash Decision]

I dont think theres anything Young could do to make me think highly of him I want him gone or premabenched.

Then you're just being prejudiced aren't you?

 

[Sultan]

Excellent performance and more like a United side that I want to see, power, hunger and passion. Even 50/50 balls were falling our way all night, you make your own luck.

Small sample size but I think we're starting to see that the elephant in the room is Paul Pogba's inability to integrate into this setup (and the league in general). He's at a real crossroads at United and in his career in general, the Herrera/Mata/Lingard/Rashford pressing combination has worked much better in the last two games and I think going forward if we want to play faster paced, more clinical football in the middle third then there isn't room for Pogba there. Guys like Fred will integrate into this type of team a lot better and it puts into perspective Mourinho's comments about needing to cement the defensive aspect of this team a little better.

Fulham were dreadful though, admittedly.

You admit Fulham were "dreadful" and "small sample size" yet based on 45 Minutes of a good performance you have decided to put an imprint on the future of our playing style and personnel. Well done.

 

[JohnnyKills]

It's not hard to not be miserable. If you're like this after a 4-1 smash you should go do something else.

Suggest you concentrate on your own priorities and let others worry about theirs.

 

[Ashley R1+O]

You admit Fulham were "dreadful" and "small sample size" yet based on 45 Minutes of a good performance you have decided to put an imprint on the future of our playing style and personnel. Well done.

Thanks. Was much better watching six guys press properly and get rewarded for their efforts, want to see more of that going forward against the better teams to see if it plays itself out.

 

[simplyared]

Dalot is mint.

Anyone saying he wasn't good enough for us after Wednesday (he's 19!) deserves to be taken outside and shot.

Yed he got some stick on here after Wednesday's game. Those people wouldn't see talent if they fell over it. Backed him in the players forum after Wed and will continue doing so. Think we've got a gem there! Fred on the other hand I'm not enthusiastic over.

 

[Member 113277]

We looked like a team today, a cohesive unit.

This.

 

[sunama]

Delusional outlook at football.



Me personally don't think Jose should be there as he ain't getting the max of the players but 4-1 ain't a standard all the time should be result ever in my whole United supporting career.

Agreed.
Even in our heyday, 4-1 against any team in the EPL would be a VERY good result.

 

[midou]

25 - Ashley Young's goal for Manchester United vs Fulham today ended a sequence of 25 passes and involved 10 of Manchester United's 11 players in the move. Vintage.

And guess who is the only one not involved ...

 

[sunama]

It's not hard to not be miserable. If you're like this after a 4-1 smash you should go do something else.

Agreed.
There are some negative nellies on this forum who just enjoy being miserable.
I don't understand how people can have a hobby/interest, which makes them miserable, even when that hobby/interest has yielded a great result.

I haven't been happy with the run of results this season, but when we do get a good result, I enjoy it.

 

[sunama]

And guess who is the only one not involved ...

DDG?

 

[Sultan]

Thanks. Was much better watching six guys press properly and get rewarded for their efforts, want to see more of that going forward against the better teams to see if it plays itself out.

I wasn't complimenting your post. Your post was full of contradictions.

 

[fen4e]

And guess who is the only one not involved ...

I havent even seen the game/goal but your comment made me laugh.. Its gotta be Lukaku surely???


Edit: OMG it is!!!!

 

[Ashley R1+O]

I wasn't complimenting your post. Your post was full of contradictions.

No it wasn't. Fulham are crap, we pressed them and harassed them like we should press all teams and the unit that have played the last two games did well in a small sample size. All of those aspects are completely true and are separate from the main point is that I want to see how this plays out.

Like most United fans I want to see this team win and I identify with this as one of the main reasons why we've actually looked like a competent team in the last two games. It is a small sample size but one that I hope can play out over multiple games.

Although the Liverpool game is a total dice roll. You can't play balls to the wall against them or they will rack up a cricket score on you. So after that game.