Mourinho Gone

[Womp]

Also all this pointless nitpicking of posters and their opinions of Jose etc. is a bit childish to me. Myself, along with many other posters supported Jose as given our lack of structure, it will take a manager time to get things where they want it. I can't speak for the others, but I said that this season he had no excuses anymore and he simply had to deliver. It became obvious really quickly that he wasn't and I wanted him out. I saw a lot of other posters turn on him too. It had nothing to do with being a fan boy or whatever term you want to use. Transitions at our club are never as seamless as they are at clubs with a better footballing structure, so I would have given time to any other manager too. (Assuming they didn't look completely out of their depth ala Moyes).

The guy came, he tried, he failed. Don't see why people are still caught up on all this nonsense, he should be swept aside just as Moyes and LVG were. The club have moved forward, the players look to be enjoying ourselves and the club as a whole seems to be on a high. Enjoy it for what it is. I just hope the club get the next managerial appointment correct, because I don't know how many feck-ups this club has left in it before it truly spirals into mediocrity.

 

[Camy89]

I think many on the forum where pointing out that just constantly changing managers is not the way forward without addressing the obvious structural problems at the club. It wasn’t really about Jose, or LvG or Moyes for that matter.

The best piece of news to come out of the last three weeks is the plan to hire a DoF and bring the club into the 21st century

Agreed, but are your surprised it took the club that long? As far as advertising and marketing goes, we're unbelievably good. As far as being modern otherwise, we're fecking neanderthals.

We only just got a woman's team this year and did you see the website, you know, the website for one of the biggest clubs in the world? Did you see it up until not that long ago when it got updated? It was a bloody shambles. Looked like it was one of those dodgy porn sites that pop up when you get sucked into clicking on sexy locals called Anastasia within 3 miles.

 

[Womp]

Agreed, but are your surprised it took the club that long? As far as advertising and marketing goes, we're unbelievably good. As far as being modern otherwise, we're fecking neanderthals.

We only just got a woman's team this year and did you see the website, you know, the website for one of the biggest clubs in the world? Did you see it up until not that long ago when it got updated? It was a bloody shambles. Looked like it was one of those dodgy porn sites that pop up when you get sucked into clicking on sexy locals called Anastasia within 3 miles.

 

[the chameleon]

Also all this pointless nitpicking of posters and their opinions of Jose etc. is a bit childish to me. Myself, along with many other posters supported Jose as given our lack of structure, it will take a manager time to get things where they want it. I can't speak for the others, but I said that this season he had no excuses anymore and he simply had to deliver. It became obvious really quickly that he wasn't and I wanted him out. I saw a lot of other posters turn on him too. It had nothing to do with being a fan boy or whatever term you want to use. Transitions at our club are never as seamless as they are at clubs with a better footballing structure, so I would have given time to any other manager too. (Assuming they didn't look completely out of their depth ala Moyes).

The guy came, he tried, he failed. Don't see why people are still caught up on all this nonsense, he should be swept aside just as Moyes and LVG were. The club have moved forward, the players look to be enjoying ourselves and the club as a whole seems to be on a high. Enjoy it for what it is. I just hope the club get the next managerial appointment correct, because I don't know how many feck-ups this club has left in it before it truly spirals into mediocrity.

We will eventually. It's just been a horrendous 2.5 years. I remember him being linked to us when LVG was here. I was certain it would be a disaster. He wasn't suited to the club or our values. I was devastated when we got him. It's been a difficult two years for me as a fan. It wasn't great under LVG and Moyes. But Mourinho, although he won things never did it the Man Utd way.

I'm sure we'll move one soon. But it's been a week of being free from a despot. Some of us just want to enjoy the spoils of being without a manager that holds us back.

 

[Womp]

We will eventually. It's just been a horrendous 2.5 years. I remember him being linked to us when LVG was here. I was certain it would be a disaster. He wasn't suited to the club or our values. I was devastated when we got him. It's been a difficult two years for me as a fan. It wasn't great under LVG and Moyes. But Mourinho, although he won things never did it the Man Utd way.

I'm sure we'll move one soon. But it's been a week of being free from a despot. Some of us just want to enjoy the spoils of being without a manager that holds us back.

Taking your time to move on is fine, that's not the issue. It's this constant "this poster said this, or this poster had this opinion" it's just childish. There is context behind why posters felt certain ways and more often than not it's not because they're "fan bois".

 

[buchansleftleg]

When was this story released? I must have missed it.

Sunday times ran with it...M.E.N then quoted it.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

Who cares what he does? Who cares how what we do affects him? Who cares about him at all? He’s not our manager anymore, he’s not worth our time. What ever he said doesn’t matter. He was right or he was wrong, the players will show that. Constantly moaning and attacking other posters is just keeping the toxic shit hanging around. It’s a new manager, a new chapter, let’s just all get on the same page and get behind ole and leave the past where it is.

You do realise this is a discussion forum? You know that no matter what you say, people in this forum and other football forums all over the net will be discussing it as is perfectly natural.

 

[Eplel]

Then you have some sanctimonious pro-Mourinho posters coming on here, telling us that we should just move on.

Honestly, I just don't see almost any reason for someone to like him. His brand of football is terrible and as a character he is pompous, the least.
Only people that seem to like him are those that can relate to his traits.

 

[rpitchfo]

It’s leadership 101 that positivity breads positivity....good moods spread faster than bad ones. Just watching ole’s smiling Face today and you can feel a cloud lifting from old Trafford.

Jose used to have that aura, yes, he was arrogant and serious...but it used to be with a wry smile and a wink.

Maybe he just wasn’t as clever as I thought he was. Because glum is shit...

 

[Reddy Rederson]

You do realise this is a discussion forum? You know that no matter what you say, people in this forum and other football forums all over the net will be discussing it as is perfectly natural.

Calling people cnuts, saying “I told you so” or anything like that isn’t discussing it. And wasting your Christmas Day moaning about something that’s now done is incredibly sad, in my opinion. It’s done, he’s gone. Where did it all go wrong? Ok. Why did the board hire him? Sure, valid questions. “You losers that wanted pogba sold are all cnuts”, sorry you lost me there. It’s bitter as feck, and the fact that most people “wanted their club back” now have it and can’t just be happy is letting that toxic environment that everyone was so against linger.

But hey, if you’re happy to continue to contribute to the various “red cafe in meltdown” threads of oppo forums, you do you you. I’ll be over here enjoying the football not moaning about shit that already done. I don’t need to tell people “I told you so” or call people names. I don’t need to defend a point that will either be shown to be true or not in the coming weeks and months. He’s gone, let all that’s toxic shit leave with him.

 

[Canagel]

Also all this pointless nitpicking of posters and their opinions of Jose etc. is a bit childish to me. Myself, along with many other posters supported Jose as given our lack of structure, it will take a manager time to get things where they want it. I can't speak for the others, but I said that this season he had no excuses anymore and he simply had to deliver. It became obvious really quickly that he wasn't and I wanted him out. I saw a lot of other posters turn on him too. It had nothing to do with being a fan boy or whatever term you want to use. Transitions at our club are never as seamless as they are at clubs with a better footballing structure, so I would have given time to any other manager too. (Assuming they didn't look completely out of their depth ala Moyes).

The guy came, he tried, he failed. Don't see why people are still caught up on all this nonsense, he should be swept aside just as Moyes and LVG were. The club have moved forward, the players look to be enjoying ourselves and the club as a whole seems to be on a high. Enjoy it for what it is. I just hope the club get the next managerial appointment correct, because I don't know how many feck-ups this club has left in it before it truly spirals into mediocrity.

not this season. He threw in the towel as early as the pre season. The events since then have left a bitter taste in the mouth.

 

[R'hllor]

Who cares what he does? Who cares how what we do affects him? Who cares about him at all? He’s not our manager anymore, he’s not worth our time. What ever he said doesn’t matter. He was right or he was wrong, the players will show that. Constantly moaning and attacking other posters is just keeping the toxic shit hanging around. It’s a new manager, a new chapter, let’s just all get on the same page and get behind ole and leave the past where it is.

Now thats funny. As for last sentence, weird how similar attitude never have been showed during period when JM was more popular here. Rhetoric reminds me of when dictators get removed.

 

[Womp]

not this season. He threw in the towel as early as the pre season. The events since then have left a bitter taste in the mouth.

Which is completely fair. I too wanted him gone this season and am extremely happy he left. His negativity was never worth it if he didn't bring along success. I just don't see the need for this constant "I told you so". There are many reasons people would have possibly backed Jose, longer than some others might have.

 

[Suedesi]

We will eventually. It's just been a horrendous 2.5 years. I remember him being linked to us when LVG was here. I was certain it would be a disaster. He wasn't suited to the club or our values. I was devastated when we got him. It's been a difficult two years for me as a fan. It wasn't great under LVG and Moyes. But Mourinho, although he won things never did it the Man Utd way.

I'm sure we'll move one soon. But it's been a week of being free from a despot. Some of us just want to enjoy the spoils of being without a manager that holds us back.

indeed

 

[the chameleon]

Calling people cnuts, saying “I told you so” or anything like that isn’t discussing it. And wasting your Christmas Day moaning about something that’s now done is incredibly sad, in my opinion. It’s done, he’s gone. Where did it all go wrong? Ok. Why did the board hire him? Sure, valid questions. “You losers that wanted pogba sold are all cnuts”, sorry you lost me there. It’s bitter as feck, and the fact that most people “wanted their club back” now have it and can’t just be happy is letting that toxic environment that everyone was so against linger.

But hey, if you’re happy to continue to contribute to the various “red cafe in meltdown” threads of oppo forums, you do you you. I’ll be over here enjoying the football not moaning about shit that already done. I don’t need to tell people “I told you so” or call people names. I don’t need to defend a point that will either be shown to be true or not in the coming weeks and months. He’s gone, let all that’s toxic shit leave with him.

Dude. Just move on. Let people enjoy the spoils of Mourinho leaving. If you can't bear the heat leave the thread. Plenty of threads you can contribute towards non-Mourinho topics.

 

[Reddy Rederson]

Dude. Just move on. Let people enjoy the spoils of Mourinho leaving. If you can't bear the heat leave the thread. Plenty of threads you can contribute towards non-Mourinho topics.

Oh, irony. And if it was just here, you’d have a point. But it’s not just this thread.

 

[Reddy Rederson]

Now thats funny. As for last sentence, weird how similar attitude never have been showed during period when JM was more popular here. Rhetoric reminds me of when dictators get removed.

Why is that funny? The grammar in the rest of your post makes it impossible to understand what you mean.

 

[the chameleon]

Oh, irony. And if it was just here, you’d have a point. But it’s not just this thread.

Just take a breather for a while. Come back around February. We'll be over Maureen by then. Promise!

You've written 1800 posts since May, so I can imagine that you probably need to wash the sheets and water the plants plus the many other chores the Reddy Red world.

 

[Womp]

Just take a breather for a while. Come back around February. We'll be over Maureen by then. Promise!

You've written 1800 posts since May, so I can imagine that you probably need to wash the sheets and water the plants plus the many other chores the Reddy Red world.

 

[Reddy Rederson]

Just take a breather for a while. Come back around February. We'll be over Maureen by then. Promise!

You've written 1800 posts since May, so I can imagine that you probably need to wash the sheets and water the plants plus the many other chores the Reddy Red world.

I’m sorry I hurt your feelings so much you needed to insult me.

 

[sugar_kane]

I’ll feel like the last vestige of Mourinho will have gone once the defenders finally stop doing that stupid hands behind the back thing he gets all his teams to do whenever an opposition player is on the edge of the box.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Sunday times ran with it...M.E.N then quoted it.

Cheers

 

[Barnslig]

Not putting all the blame on Mourinho, but it almost feels like he was trying to sabotage his time here? It’s not like Solskjær has come in and revolutionized our team, he’s done what plenty on here has been saying for a good chunk of time. How a manager of Mourinho’s pedigree could/would not see his style of football putting severe limitstions on a team that, honestly, isn’t that bad is mind boggling. Not saying this team is title challengers, but definitely better than what they’ve shown for the last six months under Jose.

 

[MDFC Manager]

FFS why can't we start games like how we did when we went down? Still, a 1-1 draw means our goal difference is still -1. Also, we are 2 points closer to City who lost.

I still want Jose out though.

Brilliant

The "I want Jose out too" disclaimer that some acolytes used at the end of their posts was hilarious.

 

[WireMUFC]

Mourinho was and still is a top manager, not suited to United that’s all. We’re moving on and playing good football now. No need to be toxic and dish out loads of hate, lets just enjoy the football Ole is playing and move on. Simple.

 

[kouroux]

Also all this pointless nitpicking of posters and their opinions of Jose etc. is a bit childish to me. Myself, along with many other posters supported Jose as given our lack of structure, it will take a manager time to get things where they want it. I can't speak for the others, but I said that this season he had no excuses anymore and he simply had to deliver. It became obvious really quickly that he wasn't and I wanted him out. I saw a lot of other posters turn on him too. It had nothing to do with being a fan boy or whatever term you want to use. Transitions at our club are never as seamless as they are at clubs with a better footballing structure, so I would have given time to any other manager too. (Assuming they didn't look completely out of their depth ala Moyes).

The guy came, he tried, he failed. Don't see why people are still caught up on all this nonsense, he should be swept aside just as Moyes and LVG were. The club have moved forward, the players look to be enjoying ourselves and the club as a whole seems to be on a high. Enjoy it for what it is. I just hope the club get the next managerial appointment correct, because I don't know how many feck-ups this club has left in it before it truly spirals into mediocrity.

He tried, failed but he also sabotaged. Never forget about this part

 

[sunama]

I think that is the Jose before his Madrid days. This is the new Jose. All the characteristics he showed he were prevalent at his two previous jobs too.

I was naive to believe that he could suddenly turn back into the old Jose. But the warning signs were there. Sir Bobby definitely saw them better than most.

I wouldn't use Sir Bobby as a good yardstick for judging managers.
He approved of Moyes, who was an epic disaster.
Jose, at least, won 2 trophies and got 2nd place. He did more than Moyes/LVG.

 

[sunama]

He tried, failed but he also sabotaged. Never forget about this part

How did he sabotage?

 

[RedRonaldo]

I wouldn't use Sir Bobby as a good yardstick for judging managers.
He approved of Moyes, who was an epic disaster.
Jose, at least, won 2 trophies and got 2nd place. He did more than Moyes/LVG.

He did spend much more too, to be fair.

 

[E-mal]

According to The Times (reproduced by the Standard) the catalyst for his sacking was a senior player who called Woodward after the loss at Anfield and demanded action. If true, and that's a big if, I wonder who he might be?

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/spo...star-phoned-ed-woodward-to-demand-his-sacking

I think if ever there was one then is DeGea

 

[E-mal]

How did he sabotage?

Going to Anfield and putting our best player on the bench and instead bringing on Fellaini and starting Darmian in defence was sabotage. There were many examples of sabotage.
Playing Scott f*cking McTominay not only ahead of the likes of Pogba but also in defence ahead of the likes of Smalling, Jones and Rojo was sabotage.
Been ultra negative against Westham could also be viewed as sabotage.
Bought Fred but refused to play him because the defence wasn't good enough was sabotage.
Should I go on.....?

 

[Raees]

Hear, hear.

Where is @Raees these days, he was unjustly mocked and made fun of for expressing what most of us felt since the summer.

Just enjoying the current football and watching Manchester United again.

Personally I think this thread should be locked and we pretend the Mourinho era never happened. Forget all these petty disputes with the ‘acolytes’ - welcome them back into the fold, clean slate and let’s focus on the future.

 

[Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell]

He did spend much more too, to be fair.

Moyes and Van Gaal spent money too and it could be argued that the Premier League is more competitive during Jose's time too.

Jose has been the best post Fergie manager by far - but the bar was fecking low.

Grateful he brought us trophies and European football again - but I do think Jose has a borderline personality disorder and his erractic mood and behaviour underminded his great football knowledge.

I hope he takes a few years out and then returns to the game with an acknowledgement of what parts of his approach need updating.

Like him or loath him, he is a giant of world football and the game needs these big characters.

 

[yfoFC]

I don't know what he was trying to achieve at United and it's all a bit confusing tbh.

He had the chance to really build something. The club was desperate to compete again and he was backed to do so.

But higher thinking mammals would swear he wasn't because the board refused to sanction deals for 29y'olds and still got him 2 players during the summer..

 

[yfoFC]

Do you remember?
The eighteenth of December
Twenty eighteen, the night
The night that Ed sacked Jose?

And we sang adios!
You fecking little moaner
Adios!
Ole gives me a boner
Adios!
You can feck right off, Jose

Spoiler

 

[yfoFC]

He tried, failed but he also sabotaged. Never forget about this part

This is worth repeating and never be forgotten

 

[kouroux]

Going to Anfield and putting our best player on the bench and instead bringing on Fellaini and starting Darmian in defence was sabotage. There were many examples of sabotage.
Playing Scott f*cking McTominay not only ahead of the likes of Pogba but also in defence ahead of the likes of Smalling, Jones and Rojo was sabotage.
Been ultra negative against Westham could also be viewed as sabotage.
Bought Fred but refused to play him because the defence wasn't good enough was sabotage.
Should I go on.....?

Thank you. You can also add playing Herrera at the back vs Spurs

 

[RedCurry]

I wanted Mourinho gone as much as the next guy, but there is a bit of revisionism with the supporters here.

When Jose arrived, we had been out of CL already for one season and missing it again would have been a disaster for us due to the loss of revenue, meaning much tighter budgets. He got us straight back to CL and a micky mouse trophy to go with it. We still proudly talk about winning more than rival clubs during our worst period and we must give credit to Jose for it.

His second season began with tremendous positivity with the signing of Lukaku and him immediately making an impact at the start of the season. We were dispatching smaller teams with ease for the first time since Fergie.

Having Jose certainly helped with signing of Pogba.

 

[In Rainbows]

Do you remember?
The eighteenth of December
Twenty eighteen, the night
The night that Ed sacked Jose?

And we sang adios!
You fecking little moaner
Adios!
Ole gives me a boner
Adios!
You can feck right off, Jose

Spoiler

 

[Bobcat]

It’s leadership 101 that positivity breads positivity....good moods spread faster than bad ones. Just watching ole’s smiling Face today and you can feel a cloud lifting from old Trafford.

Jose used to have that aura, yes, he was arrogant and serious...but it used to be with a wry smile and a wink.

Maybe he just wasn’t as clever as I thought he was. Because glum is shit...

I think his time at Madrid broke him. Hes always been somewhat of a twat, but at his first tenure at Chelsea he had charm and charisma in spades which made him sort of a lovable rogue character. The last 6-7 years though hes, looked completely miserable and that undeniably has affected his ability to do his job