Outrageous luck today.
Pen that shouldn't have been.
Missed pen hitting the keeper.
Offside 3rd goal
Pen that shouldn't have been.
Missed pen hitting the keeper.
Offside 3rd goal
Varchester City 18/19 discussion
- Thread starter Bergman
- Start date
Oi, i don't want to get in the middle of you and @SER19 but that "support local club shit" you don't do in this forum because you just insulted many posters, including me.
Last edited:
It's sad to see the effects of clinical stupidity at work.
Yes, maybe, but for me locality is important for a football club. Despite that, I don't see many on here pretending the world is ending because another club has the audacity to spend as much money as United. Football isn't life or death. If SER doesn't like how his adopted team is adapting to the modern world he should seriously consider supporting FC Cavan or Donegal Rovers. The League of Ireland is desperate for local supporters.
You don't seem very competent when it comes to discussions with any depth or nuance. You remind me of a gun nut who when faced with any opinion different to his own beats on about the second amendment - in your case your constant reiterating about where you're from. But if you ever finish hammering your chest like a xenophobic monkey (seriously the amount of threads you discuss or query posters nationalities is a little unsettling) you're going to need to explain how you can align such staunch home club protectionism with your avid support of side owned and elevated by dubious foreign owners. And whike you're at it why a middle aged man needs to validate the club he supports so often on a rival forum.
Only then can we have the discussion about what precisely you expect and hope for in this football utopia of yours where people only support their 'local' clubs. It certainly can't be a world remotely similar to ours.
Sorry to reply when you're on the train back to Manchester from Swansea our kid, crank up the oasis
FFS. Nailed on for the domestic treble now. Let’s just hope they don’t win the CL at this point. Cnuts.
It's all lining up well for the twats. We take out Arsenal and Chelsea for them and let them deal with Wolves instead of us (though in our current form Wolves would probably be more of a challenge!).
They'll win the domestic treble. Remains to be seen if they can do the quad. Ugh. Spurs or Juve need to take the feckers out.
They'll win the domestic treble. Remains to be seen if they can do the quad. Ugh. Spurs or Juve need to take the feckers out.
Do you begrudge Leicester's PL title win for the same reasons? Hope for your sake that Wolves don't win the FA Cup either.
I'm sure I've discussed Leicester with you before.
Stop being such a coward.People from cities like Manchester insisting people should support their locals
Move to a tiny mountain village in Siberia and get back to me.
Move to a tiny mountain village in Siberia and get back to me.
Stop with the mind games! I have you as slight favourites for the league due to our fixture pile-up, and your slightly easier fixture list.
I'm hoping both you and United make the CL semis to even out the fixture pile-up issue. Every little helps
All fans have never been able to choose the owners of their clubs. I for one have never felt comfortable with the current ownership situation on so many ethical levels. The history of the owners is pretty vile and in reality, the ethics of most of the 'oil' countries - compared to the West, is nasty.
But like any fan, you try to take the positives where you can. For me, whatever FFP rules that may or may not have been broken, the City owners have ploughed in well over £1bn, not just into City, but into the Business of Football. £1bn++ of money that is not a loan and was/is fresh, new money fanning around almost all of the footballing world. Same with Chelski, PSG etc where the source of the money is highly questionable. But it has been 'new money' invested throughout the football business.
With your owners, they borrowed most of their buy in money from banks, have used profits to service the interest on those loans as well as line their own pockets, to close on £1.5bn - £2bn by way of money they have taken for themselves as well as a significant increase in the asset value of the club.
My point is as I said at the beginning - we do not choose our owners, but once a fan, always a fan and you are always going to support and celebrate what goes on, on the field of play with your own team.
But like any fan, you try to take the positives where you can. For me, whatever FFP rules that may or may not have been broken, the City owners have ploughed in well over £1bn, not just into City, but into the Business of Football. £1bn++ of money that is not a loan and was/is fresh, new money fanning around almost all of the footballing world. Same with Chelski, PSG etc where the source of the money is highly questionable. But it has been 'new money' invested throughout the football business.
With your owners, they borrowed most of their buy in money from banks, have used profits to service the interest on those loans as well as line their own pockets, to close on £1.5bn - £2bn by way of money they have taken for themselves as well as a significant increase in the asset value of the club.
My point is as I said at the beginning - we do not choose our owners, but once a fan, always a fan and you are always going to support and celebrate what goes on, on the field of play with your own team.
Pep’s City is the best team in EPL ever.
And Pep is the best manager in EPL ever.
Maybe it’s not a popular opinion here but I rate Pep higher than Fergie. Pep’s City, Bayern and especially Barca played more dominant football than Fergie’s United of 1999 and 2008.
And Pep is the best manager in EPL ever.
Maybe it’s not a popular opinion here but I rate Pep higher than Fergie. Pep’s City, Bayern and especially Barca played more dominant football than Fergie’s United of 1999 and 2008.
Domestic treble it is then.
Has any team actually done it previously?
Has any team actually done it previously?
Nope. United came closest in 94 (and actually a good chance at the quad in 09)
Edit - Think Liverpool came very close in the 70s and we beat them in the FA cup final
Joke of a club tbh. Made their way to this level by sheer luck that an Arab billionaire chose them and not any other club and now just bully shite teams with their piss easy draws in the cups. And even when they deserve to lose they get officiating in their favour. Why didn’t their game have VAR?
Gonna be astonishing achievement then. Fair to say if they pull it out they are surely one of the best in PL history, and no shame in admitting it.
This level of dominance in all domestic competitions at once is unprecedented.
Yes, incredible luck and the refs decisions and lack of VAR too. I feel a bit for Swansea but glad we are trough to semis. It will be an incredible amount of games from now on. I just hope Pep starts rotating the squad, still don't understand why Foden didn't play today.
Too many bitter about City “spending money that isn’t theirs”. Ignoring the irrelevance of this (FFP is a new invention to stop new teams bucking the money the top 14 thoufhrbwas theirs) let’s look at City’s signings. Sane, Sterling, De Bruyne, Silva, Laporte, Walker, Aguero etc. All around 30 to 50 mill each but almost all of them vilified at the time as being overpriced and yet now it is cheating because they signed great players ( which none agreed at the time). Meanwhile Utd pay MORE for Pogba, Lukaku, Fred and pay same for Martial Matic Mikhatarian etc. I think the difference is most of City’s recent signings have clicked and they are all young. Hence people think they are cheating. In reality they have a strategy of certain player types and almost all their signings now last 2-3 years (Apart fromMahrez) would command much more now
There's a long list of players that you signed that weren't great though, in Pep's first season you had Nolito and Bravo, last season you've had Danilo and Mendy. The fact remains that you can spend money on average players and still spend more on better replacements when they don't work out. Since Pep first signed you've outspent us by around £200m - all this in a time where we've spent £90m each on Pogba and Lukaku.
Take it back to the start of the Arabs - and you've outspent us by about £400m. You get a hell of a lot of good players for that. Don't forget that for every Aguero you've had a Robinho too.
astonishing? the refs and luck of draws will have sealed it. it couldn't have been set up any more perfect.
No need for such bitterness imo. It reminds me of Pool and City fans bitterness when we were dominating. We are better than this. You can't be close to a domestic treble with luck and refs alone.
Luck is an integral part of the sport and you can't win multiple competitions without a bit of luck on your side. That's the reality
I loved how all these new City fans just popped here out of nowhere since they are seriously on track for a historic quadruple. No doubt they only became City fans in 2008 or during the late 2010s. Were you all also United fans during SAF's era?
I'd hate to see your notifications by this time tomorrow...
how often do you get dross teams like burton, Rotherham, swansea, Schalke ..all in one season? they beat burton 9-0 ffs. in a semi final. they also had to get penalties against Leicester and Chelsea- the two decent teams they actually faced until now. The road is clear again to the FA Cup final and we've seen today that refs will be willing to get them across the line. others have no chance but congratulations if they do it. I believe city is a very good team but there's nothing astonishing about their season. it's all a procession and media have hyped it beyond belief.
To be fair those fixtures in the knockout competitions is ridiculous luck. They will probably draw Millwall tomorrow for the semi final. You can only beat what is in front of you but damn it's jammy.
Eh.. we still have Bravo, Danilo and Mendy? Of those 3 only Bravo's squad status has changed. Danilo is still 2nd choice rb and Mendy 1st choice left. Nolito left because he hated Manchester, I believe he said it made his daughter look like she had been living in a cave or something.
We ourselves got great luck in our cups runs under both LVG and Mourinho the last 3 seasons.
I found it normal. In some seasons it's just stars aligned for you to win this competition or something. You still can't win 3 competitions at the same time with luck, 1 or 2 but 3 at the same time? Pretty hard for me.
Pretty sure this site didn't exist for most of it....
Favourable fixtures in one competition is jammy but not too irregular but in all three is pretty unprecedented.
It's not unusual in one competition. As you said the LVG cup win was a pretty safe route and for years Chelsea seemed to get really easy draws in their FA cup wins whilst we got Arsenal or Liverpool or City away. City's fixtures in all three have been incredibly kind though.
They will get a tough competition in CL soon when they get Juve in the semis. Also tbf they faced Chelsea in League cup final.
The Fa Cup was the pure lucky one as they aren't going to face any big team in it but it happens yeah.
not hard if you get the luck of the draw nearly every single round of all 3 comps. weve just cleared their path of Arsenal, Chelsea and Wolvss in a very diffcult stadium.
under mourinho we got Chelsea away in the cup- only between two EL legs and same for LVG. he got Arsenal in the first year and favorable run in the second but we still had West ham who were like the best team outside of the top 6.
The 3 Cups we won under both managers we had pretty good luck in them, and they were mocking us for that. Simply it happens.
The point isn't that you've sold them or not, it's that all 4 have by and large been shite. Which was a response to the City fan saying they only buy smart whereas our buys like Martial, Pogba etc aren't, despite conveniently ignoring the fact you've spent £200m more than us over the last 3 years. You've done good business true, but you're also bankrolled by unlimited funds and can afford to ship your flops out quicker as a result. With that extra £200m we could've had 3 more Pogba level players, or 5 Sane/Sterling level players.
And Nolito left because he was shit, the complaints about the weather came after.
Sad but true. It was pretty obvious when they faced each other. In fact, Sir Alex asked to see his training sessions.
I think it was @duffer who made a very good point regarding Chelsea's luck in cup competitions. It was definitely luck, but it was also strong teams crashing out early due to luck, or not taking cup competitions seriously, that kind of clear the path for the likes of Chelsea historically, and City today. Sometimes, luck is such that their side of the draw has non-league clubs only. But not always.
The likes of Leicester sending weak teams out in the FA Cup say it all. Ideally, City/Chelsea should be facing a combination of top 6 and upper midtable clubs from the quarterfinals on, in the FA and Carabao cups.
The likes of Leicester sending weak teams out in the FA Cup say it all. Ideally, City/Chelsea should be facing a combination of top 6 and upper midtable clubs from the quarterfinals on, in the FA and Carabao cups.
Mendy has been very good albeit dodgy positionally when available. For many he was the best LB in the league this season till he got injured. Absolute opposite of shite.
Danilo has also been pretty much as expected and only looked poor when playing LB. He's been quite decent for the most part so much so he benched Walker for much of January.
Bravo is the only one whose been consistently shite.
Nolito had a great start and than faded when he became unsettled but was shite at the end so I'll give you two of them.
3 more Pogba's for £200m? In what world? You wouldn't even get 3 more Lukaku's.
Pogba was a good buy, as was Martial if he can find consistency. Given prices today even if he doesn't he'll leave at a profit but prices when you bought his weren't close to today prices.
By comparison none of the defenders you've signed under Jose have settled in to be clearly first choice and its all rotation with no clear pairing, I'll even say Lindelof has improved and we can call him first choice. Bailly for £34m is still a huge risk imho, he's prone to massive brain farts (some fans on here seem to look down on him more). Fred is another 54m, thats about £80+m so far and most your own fans want £75m Lukaku gone. Thats 150m United fans (not I) think spunked by Jose at United....
Pep has wasted what £40m at City.. and in the end was proven right with Stones, Bernardo, Sane, Walker (who according to one poster on here wasn't even the best RB at Spurs), Mendy.
If you wanna talk about City wasting money I'll gladly admit we spunked lots under Pellers... but under Pep almost everything has worked out and since the arrivals of Pep and Jose you have bought worse than us, much worse.
While I agree with what you say and was going to post something similar earlier, the fact Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Chelsea all ended up in the same 1/4 of the FA Cup draw was massive luck for us. The fact we can't draw one of them in the semi's is down to themselves though.
Spurs though managed to mess up a 1/4 of the draw with only Palace and Watford for competition... as you say if other sides had done their job the last 4 would be a much tougher looking City, United, Spurs and an other.
I disagree with those who say our CL was easy, Spurs are a good side who mullered a Dortmund side half the Caf had hard ons for earlier in the season and our group was tougher than most will admit though still one we should be winning. But hey league winners are seeded for favorable draws. The only nice draw was Schalke.
The league cup draw is skewed by Burton but in reality we played 3 premier league sides in 5 games. Fulham, Leicester and Chelsea. Had other PL teams done their jobs we'd only have played Oxford in game 1 as no PL opposition. But again, 5 of the top 6 were on bottom half of the draw and we were the only one in the top half.
For that to happen in both cups is pretty much unheard of.