Yes. They should be banned too. Give too many idiots a lot of space and you end with Trump as president.
Pewdiepie as an Influence for White Supremacy
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might as well make this the general thread about fascists so the other one doesn't get spammed
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Thing is mate, you are consistently and almost belligerently defending ‘Felix’ from an accusation almost no one is actually making, whilst wilfully ignoring the wider pervasive influence of the culture he heavily contributes to and wilfully fans, and which is the actual subject of discussion.
You can continue to think you’re the only totally clued in righteous bro in this thread, and bemoan the fact that us normies just don’t get the lolzmemes, or you can consider for a moment whether the strength of opinion (and indeed, evidence) against you, perhaps points to something larger worth considering.
I mean, you won’t. But you could.
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Memes lolz. You guys just don’t understand.
Oh man, talk about existing within a bubble. This is redcafe, do you genuinely think its representative of the world at large? This forum is incredibly far to the left, it's not some neutral ground or a reflection of normal public opinion, and why would any other posters who disagree with the narrative in this thread even speak out? The likelihood is they'll be aggressively shut down for holding a different perspective on the situation, by posters who continually seek to debate on the same level as Ben Shapiro and his 'libtards got owned!' shtick, just reversed.
Go talk about how pewdiepie is an influence for white supremacists in most circles, and you'll likely get mocked. It's taken seriously because this is redcafe, you're not in the majority and most people don't necessarily agree with your opinions because they do on here. There are plenty of circles in which the 'strength of opinion' would absolutely be with me, but we're not discussing it there.
it's true, I went and talked about pewdiepie at a hotel management conference and they all made fun of me for not getting the intricacies of meme culture
So, by whinging that the Caf (and only the Caf) is against you purely because it’s “far to the left” you’re presumably agreeing that PDP’s fanbase is, therefore, far to the right, then? Or at least inclined that way?
It’s a start. Well done.
Ah yes, "both sides" in action. You are truly a the most radical of centrists.
Most of Pewdiepie's fanbase aren't remotely political, nor do they become so because they laughed at nazi memes. People on the far right generally aren't watching Pewdiepie's meme reviews.
So, by whinging that the Caf (and only the Caf) is against you purely because it’s “far to the left” you’re presumably agreeing that PDP’s fanbase is, therefore, far to the right, then? Or at least inclined that way?
It’s a start. Well done.
I'm not whinging, I'm stating a fact. This forum (particularly current events) is very left wing biased and is not a reflection of the general public.
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By the way, to people who have been accusing Pewdiepie of not distancing himself from the alt right, he had this to say back in 2017:
'I want nothing to do with these people. I have no hate in my heart, I only have hate for hateful people'.
Seems pretty clear to me.
'I want nothing to do with these people. I have no hate in my heart, I only have hate for hateful people'.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Far right figures followed by Pewdiepie on twitter:
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https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/174...ns-fan-who-defaced-second-world-war-memorial/
He has 89 million subscribers. Some of them are going to be cnuts.
oh man and here we were all thinking that exactly 89 million subscribers had swastika tattoos
They are, though. I mean, they very obviously are, aren’t they? This is what I mean by oblivious. In this instance to what in fact the far right in 2019 actually is.
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Here's the thing... It's not about majority and minority, or about whether this site represents anything other than the posters that post on it.
We are talking about an issue in society, not about an issue on RedCafe. Everyone's opinion on here is valid, even yours (even though all it seems to amount to it's PDP PR).
If you disagree with the points being made in this thread about the wider issue then state it, otherwise quit whining about poor old PDP and these phantom attacks that you feel the need to defend him from.
You allude to the fact that, outside of this forum some of the things we are bringing up would get laughed off.... If it's places like Storefront I'm not fecking surprised. Go over and circle jerk over there about PDP if it's a bit too much for you here...
He also follows Jake Paul, whose content he has consistently ripped the shit out of.
Just because he follows someone on twitter doesn't mean he agrees with everything they have to say.
Just because he follows someone on twitter doesn't mean he agrees with everything they have to say.
Man, in most circles, they wouldn't know who you're talking about. That's the biggest bubble here that you've established yourself as being firmly within. It's hard to describe just how nonplussed the general public are about some bloke on the internet. It's fascinating to see you defend him with such vigour.
Did he not speak out against this?
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When did I say anybody's opinion isn't valid? I said that the notion that because most of redcafe holds a certain view that must mean it = the view of society at large, is total nonsense. And it is, all you have to do is take a look at the brexit thread to see that. If redcafe reflected the views of society, the world would be a very different place, but it doesn't. Acting like it does is wrong.
I have stated it, numerous times. I haven't moaned about poor old pewdiepie, I've put up a defence of what he's done, there are plenty in here who seem just as obsessed with condemning him but that doesn't seem to get as much attention.
In other circles (no, not fecking stormfront) a thread accusing Pewdiepie of being an influence for white supremacy would absolutely be laughed off. I'm not calling for a circle jerk, I'd just rather people didn't act like because this thread is so against him/meme culture/his fanbase, it means that everywhere is.
So he's not responsible for what he says, does or listen to?
How does that make sense?
He did, called it disgusting and said that he would never condone it, also donated to the memorial park to help pay for its removal.
But yeah, let's post it without any context in a thread accusing him of being an influence for white supremacy, because that's super responsible and fair.
He basically follows people so he can make content on them.
On the “subscribe to pewdiepie” it’s the biggest meme going in the YouTube community, everyone was using it for views.
I didn't think he flew over and did it himself
He's absolutely responsible for what he says and does, and rightly suffered consequences when he acted like an idiot on a couple of occasions.
But he's perfectly allowed to follow a few controversial figures on twitter without it meaning he publicly condones everything they stand for, he follows multiple people that he's spoken out against in the past.
Odd response. I didn't suggest you did
I knowOdd response. I didn't suggest you did
You’re wasting your time mate. You’ll never convince this lot that this stuff is in any way nuanced. Either you’re with them, or you’re part of the problem.
Most circles Maaaan where the feck do you hang out?
Maaaan where the feck do you hang out?On the contrary, we’re the ones saying it is nuanced, he (and presumably you?) are the ones claiming it isn’t.
Just memes innit? Lolz. Normfags. Also, we’re all saying he basically did this himself. And we’ve all absolutely definitely said that.
Of course, but of people that know and 'care' about pewdiepie, there's no way that overwhelming opinion would be the same as posters on redcafe. The idea that posters in this thread represent the 'strength of opinion' is absurd.
Obviously a majority of people won't even be aware of his existence, he's a youtuber.
I was more referring to the fact that he’s apparently supposed to condone every single thing that everyone he follows ever said
Most circles which are relevant to the discussion, i.e people discussing pewdiepie on youtube, reddit, twitter .. wherever on social media.Most circles
Obviously I wouldn't exactly expect the subject of pewdiepie to come up with the checkout girl the next time I'm at sainsbury's.
It's simply another number in the equation.
I can't see why your such an apologist though. You seem to be seperating the times when he was 100 percent in the wrong with the other examples in this thread as if he somehow deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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You say this like it's a bad thing, Libcafe, I mean RedCafe is a great site as far as I'm concerned, which is why I'm still here. Having moved on from other sites that have entertained some of these isms and feckries that are creeping into loads of sites across the internet.
You love to talk in absolutes. Everyone does this, or everyone thinks that.... but what the feck do you know? You canvassed the general public? You're in your bubble just like everyone else. Heres a tip stop talking and start reading...
It's only you that thinks that, nobody here thinks that Libcafe, I mean RedCafe reflects the opinions of the wider public. Is it even trying to?
As you know there's a lot of feckries going on right now, does it need to be in here too? Do we need some alt-righters in here to give you the balance that you need? Don't get your arguement...
Bang on mate.
I don't know though, I had a bit of trouble getting across my point that it's clearly not straightforward a few pages ago.
Some want to blanket call pdp himself a nazi, whilst others are happy to bury their heads in the sand as to whether or not people are jumping on these memeslol and using them to communicate their hate. It's perfect for these fecks to hide away in.
Just fecking with you man
I know what you mean