Lukaku To Discuss Future

[RedDevil@84]

Don't see the problem with what he said. The guy is a guaranteed 20 goal a season striker (nowhere near as bad as people make out on here - you would swear he was Heskey going by posts on here) so I wouldn't be surprised if another big club would go in for him.

So you think the moment we put him in a market, 70M-100M offers will be flowing from left right and centre

 

[Strats]

He's more than welcome to join the Sunday league side that i'm in. We won the title last year, our striker tore his playing hide and seek with his kids and we're desperate for replacement.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Lukaku would be a great addition for most teams. Even though it has not worked here, I can see him scoring 30 plus goals elsewhere in a top team that play to his strength. I can see him becoming a huge success at Dortmund. Hopefully, United will entertain a deal where we can get Sancho and Lukaku goes the other way. However, if Lukaku leaves, we would also need another striker unless Sanchez stays.

Why would a top team play to his strengths?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Is he actually a champion of anything though?

Champion of heavy first touches.

 

[Jacob]

We'd be lucky to get 35m. Can't believe we paid 90 for this guy.

 

[adexkola]

Why would a top team play to his strengths?

Top teams do this though. That's why they are top. Because they are optimizing their players' skillsets.

 

[SATA]

He has an agent even thicker than Raiola given by what he is saying there. He's basically hawking him to every top club out there and see who takes the bait and gets a phone call tomorrow

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Top teams do this though. That's why they are top. Because they are optimizing their players' skillsets.

Yeah and their players tend to be better than/different from Lukaku. No top team would have him as anything other a squad player.

 

[bushyboy]

Seems like mutiny at Utd. Can't recall so many players wanting to leave at the same time, at any of our rivals.
At such a critical time of the season as well! What the heck is going on?!
I don't care how good you are or how good you think you are, it's a privilege to play for Utd, or has that changed in the last 6 years?
Half the squad, including Lukaku need to be shipped out, including the deadwood that had contract extensions recently. Woodward included.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

https://www.skysports.com/app/trans...ummer-says-representative-federico-pastorello

Talk about how your client sees himself winning things in Italy and Spain before a CL QF against Barcelona in a season which is in shambles mostly because your client couldn't finish sitters game in game out.

Give him a new contract - with reduced wages and lesser play time guarantees. Ask him to play well enough to deserve a better contract. If he complains, bench and sell. We won't miss his pointing.

 

[Mcking]

I'd love to see a chance conversion rate stat for him. Never seen a striker consistently miss so many easy chances, it seems like 2-3 per game.

Probably because you don't watch other strikers play as much as you watch him do?

 

[MancunianBIue]

You seem to have a lot of players who want to leave, result of missing out on Champions League and it not being assumed it's a blip like in Moyes' first year. Now it's becoming a regular occurrence. Huge summer for Manchester United as now a narrative is starting to stick

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Apparently on his way out of Carrington he got lost, couldn’t find his way back and then got lost in the car park.

 

[Jippy]

You seem to have a lot of players who want to leave, result of missing out on Champions League and it not being assumed it's a blip like in Moyes' first year. Now it's becoming a regular occurrence. Huge summer for Manchester United as now a narrative is starting to stick

It is worrying. All the players supportive of Ole's appointment, then wanting to feck regardless.

 

[adexkola]

Yeah and their players tend to be better than/different from Lukaku. No top team would have him as anything other a squad player.

Yeah, because they have a better striker, or can't afford him. How many clubs are top clubs? Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Juventus, City, Liverpool? So he can't start for any one of those? Most probably not. He'll be fine.

My point about top clubs optimizing to the qualities of their players still stands.

 

[Water Melon]

You seem to have a lot of players who want to leave, result of missing out on Champions League and it not being assumed it's a blip like in Moyes' first year. Now it's becoming a regular occurrence. Huge summer for Manchester United as now a narrative is starting to stick

It is not about CL, it is about being late with renewing contracts or wanting first team football. Also the absolute stupidity of landing Alexis on mega bucks.

 

[Suedesi]

It is worrying. All the players supportive of Ole's appointment, then wanting to feck regardless.

Worrying times, but if anything United will be better off with some of these mercenaries that Jose had brought in as a quick fix.

 

[Jippy]

Worrying times, but if anything United will be better off with some of these mercenaries that Jose had brought in as a quick fix.

Yeah, Alexis being the obvious one, smashing any semblance of wage bill discipline, as others have said.

 

[Eckers99]

Wonder if some of them have already been told we'll listen to bids and are preemptively saving face? That's my hope.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

He's more than welcome to join the Sunday league side that i'm in. We won the title last year, our striker tore his playing hide and seek with his kids and we're desperate for replacement.

Tore his...? I know it's not gonna be good, but the poor guy at least deserves his injury to be stated!

 

[clarkydaz]

Huge summer for him, will need to learn to point in German

 

[Suedesi]

Wonder if some of them have already been told we'll listen to bids and are preemptively saving face? That's my hope.

One can only hope.

 

[clarkydaz]

Wonder if some of them have already been told we'll listen to bids and are preemptively saving face? That's my hope.

Now you mention it, its the day after the club supposedly briefed the press about a clearout

 

[Irwin99]

The timing of the stories and the actions of the agents is just depressing. I wish footballers would understand how fans feel when they have to read/hear about this crap, especially at such a pivotal point of the season. Someone asks you a question regarding your future when away on international duty you can just say 'No Comment'.

I even feel sorry for other clubs fans. Chelsea and Atletico fans have to deal with this every year it seems with Griezmann and Hazard.

 

[Water Melon]

Seems like mutiny at Utd. Can't recall so many players wanting to leave at the same time, at any of our rivals.
At such a critical time of the season as well! What the heck is going on?!
I don't care how good you are or how good you think you are, it's a privilege to play for Utd, or has that changed in the last 6 years?
Half the squad, including Lukaku need to be shipped out, including the deadwood that had contract extensions recently. Woodward included.

Times have changed, SAF is no longer at the wheel, half a dozen years without any big trophy. No real privilege anymore for majority of footballers. Need to get back to winning big things asap.

 

[Denis79]

It is worrying. All the players supportive of Ole's appointment, then wanting to feck regardless.

Starting to wonder if they don't believe in Ole's capability.

 

[LoneStar]

If we get a good offer, we need to sell him. Simple as that. He doesn't fit Ole's system well, and has never had a standout performance in a big game so far. And his workrate is very bad, night and day compared to someone like Rashford.

I can't see any elite club going for him, he just doesn't have enough to cut it at the very top.

Funnily enough, he is everything I want my striker to be in FIFA 19 career mode. Fast, Strong, amazing hold up play, great at headers and finishing.

 

[Kostur]

Starting to wonder if they don't believe in Ole's capability.

They don't believe in anybody but their's capabilities, most suffering from delusions of grandeur. Most of our squad are massive wankers, said it before, they'll just blame it on the managers yet and yet again. Cometh time, cometh the sack founded by downing tools, people can turn their heads all they want to it.

 

[JPRouve]

He has an agent even thicker than Raiola given by what he is saying there. He's basically hawking him to every top club out there and see who takes the bait and gets a phone call tomorrow

I hope that you are talking about Raiola's voluptuous shape because he is a clever agent.

 

[Skills]

He's too good to be on the bench but doesn't suit what we want at the moment. Would make sense for him to move

 

[NoPace]

If the club really thinks Greenwood is going to make it here and he's ready to score goals for us by next year...

then Lukaku is still a useful player for us despite his technical issues, but if Inter or whoever want to offer us 50-60M for us I think it would make sense to sell him and look to buy a cheap striker or even get someone on loan to bridge the next year or two until Greenwood can be counted on to backup/challenge Rashford as our 9, and obviously with our massive number of needs elsewhere (RW, CM, DM, RB, CB) we could use the money to fill one.

 

[Denis79]

They don't believe in anybody but their's capabilities, most suffering from delusions of grandeur. Most of our squad are massive wankers, said it before, they'll just blame it on the managers yet and yet again. Cometh time, cometh the sack founded by downing tools, people can turn their heads all they want to it.

Probably true, We are in such trouble with this squad.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Lukaku: ‘I want to leave’.

United: ‘Great. Shut the door on your way out’.


*snaps door handle off with his first touch*


It wasn’t funny in my head either tbh.

 

[Sandikan]

The story even daring to link him to Barcelona and Real Madrid has to be up there with all time ludicrous stories.

Someone so technically lacking shouldn't even be in a conversation with those footballing aristocrats.
He's done amazingly to get to our club!

 

[Skills]

It is worrying. All the players supportive of Ole's appointment, then wanting to feck regardless.

I think the last 4 years have done a lot of long term damage which is hard to reverse. The club has constantly let poor, underperforming throw them under the bus publically yet still expect them to show 'loyalty'. We have wasted their primes on poor managers and let them take the bulk of the blame and have their reputations constantly damaged.

Post Sir Alex, this is no longer a good club for ambitious players. You will always have a problem when your playing staff is more ambitious than the club itself.

 

[Sandikan]

We'd be lucky to get 35m. Can't believe we paid 90 for this guy.

Why do people always apply the absolute media hype maximum to fees.
It was much nearer £75m, which again, was outrageous.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yeah, because they have a better striker, or can't afford him. How many clubs are top clubs? Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Juventus, City, Liverpool? So he can't start for any one of those? Most probably not. He'll be fine.

My point about top clubs optimizing to the qualities of their players still stands.

Your point deosnt apply to Lukaku though and my post was specifically in relation to him. If your point was general in nature let it stand away but it doesn't make sense in his regard.

 

[Seth.R]

Rashford is Ole's #9 of choice. If Lukaku can't handle that, he can pack his bags.

He's not played well enough to secure that position for himself. If he wants to fight for it, fine. If not, close the door on the way out (or leave it open for a few other clowns we employ on big salaries).

 

[Untd55]

So you think the moment we put him in a market, 70M-100M offers will be flowing from left right and centre

Didn't say anything about 70m-100m, though you could possibly get close to 70m from a club like Everton - would be a massive signing for them as they're severely lacking a striker.

I would not be surprised if big clubs were in for him if it was a bit more reasonable, though. Guaranteed 20 goals a season striker with good finishing, pace and strength and still only 25.

Think you would spark a lot of interest around the 40m-50m mark, though. Have to consider that if you want an absolute top-tier striker (you can almost count those on one hand) you would be looking at 100m mark at least nowadays.

 

[sullydnl]

I'd love to see a chance conversion rate stat for him. Never seen a striker consistently miss so many easy chances, it seems like 2-3 per game.

This season in the PL his goal conversion rate is 23.1%, which is better than all of Aubamayang, Vardy, Lacazette, Aguero, Firmino, Kane, Rashford and Higuain.

The key stat with Lukaku is that all of those players bar Higuain have had more attempts on goal than him this season and last season the likes of Kane had chances at literally twice the rate Lukaku did.

For example, someone like Aguero peppers the goal with attempts (even low percentage ones) which sees him miss an awful lot more but results in more goals even with a lower conversion rate:

Goal conversion: Lukaku 23.1%, Aguero 19.6%
Goal attempts: Lukaku 52, Aguero 97
Min. Per Chance: Lukaku 35.7, Aguero 26.

So your impression of him is entirely wrong. He is actually quite a clinical striker when he has a chance, he just gets/takes relatively few chances (either as a result of the team or his own play) which means any misses stand out. Whereas other strikers miss a lot more but the sheer volume of their attempts on goal carries them. Other strikers are also more likely to compensate for missed "big chances" by converting one of their many low percentage attempts, at which point their miss is forgotten.