Master of those useless dribbles in place that don't really move the ball forward or give you the advantage but look nice. If people really enjoy this type of shit just go watch kids in the street as they do it a lot too.
Zaha
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
He has a free role at Palace. He wont get that at a big side because he isn’t good enough to warrant that.
He's still, and never will be, anywhere near good enough for a top club.
He's a bench option for a top side. Someone you throw on when its sh*t or bust. He tops the stats every season in both dispossessions against and unsuccessful touches. He would struggle to keep fans at a top club on side.
Correct. And even fecking Moyesy knew this
There's a good reason he signed the contract extension. Doesn't have the mentality to go and try and succeed at a top club. Happy being the big fish in a small pond - nothing wrong with that either. Won't be remembered for much though.
Moyes was right to get rid, even if it was for the wrong reason. He's full of tricks and stepovers but he doesn't have the brain to do anything with it.
Who knows how he could have developed with a few years under Ferguson. Ronaldo was the same when he was young.
Who knows how he could have developed with a few years under Ferguson. Ronaldo was the same when he was young.
A winger who needs to be the star of the team and need to be involved with the ball more to utilise his tricky and dribbling skills. Quality winger and he’s too good for Palace but I have a doubt whether he can make it into top team since he has a style of play that can restrict other players. Unfortunately, he ain’t Messi or Ronaldinho, I’ll be keen to give him another chance in here but if the price is more than £40m, I don’t think it’s worth a risk.
We are not buying him back.
2 assists and a goal last night no?
How has he been this season? Can he play on the right?
I know he can be inconsistent and his end product isnt special, but if we fail to land our main targets like Sancho, I do feel he could be a menace in our attack. I mean, there are times when he makes PL defenders look downright silly. Only issue is that he'd cost a bomb.
I know he can be inconsistent and his end product isnt special, but if we fail to land our main targets like Sancho, I do feel he could be a menace in our attack. I mean, there are times when he makes PL defenders look downright silly. Only issue is that he'd cost a bomb.
He's at the perfect level for someone of his talent and character.
I think he's been great considering, as a Palace fan was saying on here yesterday, he plays in a very conservative team where sometimes he maybe feels like he has to do too much. He barely saw the ball against us but when he did he did something a little big magical and managed to get a decent shot on goal. He's got 'it', there's definitely areas of his game which aren't polished and he will always be frustrating, but I think he would be an asset to any top side when trying to unpick a difficult defence in particular.
He seems to win a hell of a lot of penalties.
He seems to win a hell of a lot of penalties.
I hope the club isn’t stupid enough to sign him again.
Plays for Crystal Penalty.
A very good player for Palace, but that's his level really. He would just be frustrating for a more ambitious team.
Plus we don't get weekly penalties to help take the pressure off.
Yeah, agree with this. Everything goes through him and he is one more player who is much better than the numbers in goals and assists column. They should add all the penalties scored to his goals or assists column.
Apart from all that, he is very good player to watch.
I so think he's below the standard we should be looking at however at the same time he is better than anyone we've had playing on right for quite awhile. Although he's prolly a LW/SS anyway these days.
You should do standup mate (*insert gag about our players standing up in the box here*). In reality he has won six of them himself, not through diving as the media might have you believe but by quick footwork and braindead defenders like Yedlin taking him out. He rode a challenge from Schar that he could have quite easily dived over right before that and he does that most games, so don't believe the narrative.
His all round game is not elite by any stretch...his striking technique and finishing is poor sometimes and he doesn't always release the ball early enough (partly through lack of options tbf). But his dribbling and ability to beat a man is elite, and he is better than a lot of squad players at the top 6 clubs. Funnily enough I think he would thrive at Spurs moreso than Utd, think that ship has kind of sailed for him.
Agree completely.
They've got a cock standing on a ball on their badge and Zaha is also a cock so he'd fit in well.
I think Zaha could be a good option at a big club and an even better option at a club like Spurs. He could get passed 2 guys with easy which creates space and opportunities for his teammates as well as the chance to win penalties and freekicks in dangerous areas with his skill. He could be a different player under Ole. What has been his main problem is usually his end product but it has improved with age.
I think he would be a great option to have on the right.. but judging by his recent comments about how miserable he was when he played for us before, there is essentially no chance he would consider coming back
He would give Spurs something they've lacked for a long time and would be excellent for them. With us, we possibly need someone with better as the cohesion and fluidity of our attack isn't as good as Spurs.
He'd do much better for us under Ole than he would have under Moyes, LVG or Mourinho.
I think we have a relatively similar player in Lucas. Both tricky wide players with bags of ability on the ball but perhaps lacking in terms of their end product/finishing.
Lucas at a mid table club would be really good I think, playing in a team who were happy to play on the break and made him something of a focal point. I feel like he's been a bit harsly treated by Poch at times this season, a few times dropped after really good performances, I remember he came on in the 2nd half against Watford and changed the game completely, but was still dropped for the next game.
I'm a big admirer of Zaha but for the money he'd cost there's no way he would be a priority for us. It would be great to possess two proper tricky wide players but the reality is that isn't generally how we play (though I'm not really a fan of the diamond we've turned to a lot this season) so would struggle to fit both of them in regularly.
In terms of United I don't know, I feel like you need a leading man in attack? You have a lot of very good attacking options, but nobody who really stands out as a world beater just yet. I don't think someone like Zaha who would add great depth to a top six side but not really be a standout, is what you need. You had the right idea with going for Sanchez in my opinion, but unfortunately it totally backfired because he just simply hasn't reached the level he did at Arsenal.
He's fantastic when he has the ball and his decision making has come a long way. He is however an average mover off the ball, pretty much like Martial in that sense. If he could get a coach to sort out his movement ala Sterling at City he'd be brilliant. Stopping him 1 v 1 is an impossibility at this point and that's invaluable in teams that face parked busses.
He'd have been great under LVG IMO.
You guys have Son, signing him would be strange.
Van Gaal just let him go without playing him single min. He would have smashed Zaha for losing possession so many times.
Probably his mistake, he didn't seem to have an issue with Martial losing the ball many times.
Zaha is a ball hog, so much higher than any player in the league. Something that's completely against Van Gaal's philosophy. Not saying he is bad player but he wasn't good fit for Van Gaal. Would have been so much better under Jose and Ole.
Martial is a ball hog too and played his best football under Van Gaal cause of how much ball he actually received. Zaha getting as many touches as Martial used to in those days would play better than the other coaching reigns we've seen. It's hard enough dealing with him in a team where he barely gets the ball imagine with 70 touches per game.
Martial is too but not like Zaha. He is in the league of his own when it comes to hogging ball.
Anyways we had Zaha, Van Gaal didn't even play him against MK Dons and unused sub in every game before selling him. Fair to say he didn't rate him.
I don't see the difference. In fact Zaha is a far better team player on the ball these days.
The question isn't whether he rated him or not. It's who he'd play his best football for. I.e whos type of football would get the most out of him and having seen Martial who's a similar player I think he would too.
He clearly has some talent, perhaps he’s currently better suited to being a big player on a mid-table team rather than a squad player on a good team but that’s probably also because he’s been given plenty of opportunities to become the former and zero opportunities to become the latter.
I wouldn’t really buy him back but I think he may end up at a team like Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal and be a good player for them. For what it’s worth City might eventually get him to fill the homegrown quota if they need it, and will play him about 20 games a year.
I wouldn’t really buy him back but I think he may end up at a team like Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal and be a good player for them. For what it’s worth City might eventually get him to fill the homegrown quota if they need it, and will play him about 20 games a year.
He clearly is a very good player and would improve us if he can slot in at RW . However I'm not sure that he can do it and Palace would want a fortune. He's clearly a much better player than Lingard and Mata, which would make him an automatic starter.
He is like a fine wine, he is improving with age.
In a way this is good because we have such low standards for anyone coming in to fill that gap that it's basically a free hit. It doesn't need to be Sancho, and I doubt we'll get him anyway. Zaha, Pepe, even Depay again would all improve us down that side because right now it's non-existent.
God no
I'd take him if it was him or no-one. He's better than a massive gaping hole.
I'd say he's very talented, rather than very good. He's capable of just about anything but he's 26 now and still wastes more chances than he creates. At Palace it's ok because everything goes through him and he can keep trying and trying until he gets it right but here much more would be expected of him.
I hate relying on statistics to prove a point but look at how productive he is compared to how many runs he goes on. He is second only to Hazard for dribbles but his output is closer to Nathan Redmond levels than it is to Hazard or Sterling. He would get in our team because he is a right winger and we don't have one, but that's the only reason, in no other way is he good enough.