Edit:I Subreddit is based on books so am posting OP's now - hopefully that's ok
2 Reddit posts I liked but have now spoilered them after it was pointed out it was a book Reddit sub - though I don't think the posts have anything we don't/didn't already know
First saying storylines that are (un)resolved and forever will be:
The second being/trying to justify why Arya was the only "logical" person to kill the Night King but ultimately it shouldn't have happened:
Edit: It's all the subreddit of the books. So don't go in this thread if you haven't read the books cos there will be book talk there.
2 Reddit posts I liked but have now spoilered them after it was pointed out it was a book Reddit sub - though I don't think the posts have anything we don't/didn't already know
First saying storylines that are (un)resolved and forever will be:
Now that we're in the final season of the show and major characters are dying off, it seems safe to start believing that some plots that appear to be finished really are finished. Here are a few I'm thinking about:
- The White Walkers' mission: We learned in Season 6 that the Children of the Forest created the Night King, and thereby the White Walkers and wights, to help with their war against the First Men. We learned in the previous episode that the Night King specifically wanted to kill the Three-Eyed Raven to erase the memory of humanity. It looks like that's all we're going to get about them - no attempt to subvert our expectations by humanizing them or somesuch.
- Humanity unifying against the army of the dead: A lot of characters (but not all) belatedly set aside their political squabbles and joined forces to save the world, which has been a strong theme of the series. It seemed like that might have been the eventual finale of the entire show, but not quite. Now we're back to human-on-human violence.
- The White Walkers' gruesome art: Right from the very first episode we saw the White Walkers arranging corpses in certain geometric patterns, which also appeared in the cave under Dragonstone. Was there a deeper mystery about the meaning of these patterns? Apparently not one we'll ever solve.
- Dragonglass and Valyrian steel:These were needed for defeating the wights and White Walkers, and there have been several side plots about Valryian steel swords that have names and about the dragonglass forging industry. That's probably all finished now; the only special weapon powers still in play belong to a crossbow, a scorpion, and wildfire.
- The Night's Watch: The Wall has fallen, the wildlings have come south, the White Walkers are defeated, and every named raven's watch has ended. So there doesn't seem to be any purpose left for them.
- The Unsullied, the Dothraki, and Essos: Looks like the first two are completely wiped out and even the intro sequence hasn't referred to the third this season. (via u/silentnoisemakers76)
- The Winterfell crypt: There have always been indications that something special would happen in the crypt (e.g. Bran's visions), and fan theories ran amok. Now that Winterfell has mostly fallen it doesn't seem like there will be a third battle there, so we've probably seen all the crypt action we're going to see. Maybe Bran's visions in the crypt were just metaphors leading up to his discovery about Jon's true parentage, and not a foreshadowing of some other specific thing that would physically occur there.
- Weirwoods?: Bran has seemed to be able to connect to a weirwood tree and remotely view events through the eyes of another weirwood. But there aren't many weirwoods south of Winterfell and that's where the action seems to be moving, so we might not get any more data from weirwood.net.
- R'hllor?: The Lord of Light's religion has always been portrayed as creepy (child sacrifice would be disturbing even if it were done for a successful purpose), while R'hllor is also the only god in the universe who actually seems to have visible powers. There have been theories about what might be behind all that. But all his named-character followers in Westeros have completed their missions and died, so it seems unlikely we'll ever learn more about the subject. (For that matter we may already be done with the Faith of the Seven, and it's unclear how much the surviving Greyjoys care about the Drowned God, while Arya took what she needed from the House of Black and White and left, so we might never revisit the entire theme of religion.) EDIT: u/ISamohThomasI points out that Varys had a vision in the flames, and so did Sandor "The Hound" Clegane. So maybe they'll go found a church after this is all over, but that seems like a long shot.
- Azor Ahai??: This prophecy is the subject of a lot of speculation among book readers but is only briefly mentioned in the show, as the Prince (or Princess) That Was Promised. However, that story came from Melisandre and appeared to be about the person who would defeat the White Walkers, which is now done. So is it Arya? Or is the show just going to drop that plot?
The second being/trying to justify why Arya was the only "logical" person to kill the Night King but ultimately it shouldn't have happened:
I'm talking about Arya, Catspaw, and the Night King's death.
First, (and I first made this post in the post-ep discussion if it looks like you're re-reading something) the religious factions all played a very specific role in killing the Night King.
Obviously Littlefinger has been dead for a season, but his influence is here. He started the war, but he also gave Bran Catspaw in s7. Tyrion actually was the original owner of this dagger. I'm sure there are many other things I'm missing that brought about this moment from other characters.
I guess the great irony is that if it weren't for the Catspaw assassin, humanity wouldn't have been distracted from the threat up north with these wars since 1998, yet its the reason why the NK is dead.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bijsff/spoilers_main_episode_3_couldnt_have_happened_any/
First, (and I first made this post in the post-ep discussion if it looks like you're re-reading something) the religious factions all played a very specific role in killing the Night King.
- The many faced god produced assassin Arya.
- The Lord of Light revived Beric a million times over to save Arya. Mel told Arya point blank she's the one. Mel also confirmed that Beric was kept alive for this moment of saving Arya.
- The Seven saved Sandor Clegane, who saved Arya. Same as above.
- The drowned god via Theon, who "rose again harder and stronger," and protected Bran, bought Arya time.
- The old gods via the 3ER (Bran) gave Arya Catspaw.
Obviously Littlefinger has been dead for a season, but his influence is here. He started the war, but he also gave Bran Catspaw in s7. Tyrion actually was the original owner of this dagger. I'm sure there are many other things I'm missing that brought about this moment from other characters.
I guess the great irony is that if it weren't for the Catspaw assassin, humanity wouldn't have been distracted from the threat up north with these wars since 1998, yet its the reason why the NK is dead.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bijsff/spoilers_main_episode_3_couldnt_have_happened_any/
Edit: It's all the subreddit of the books. So don't go in this thread if you haven't read the books cos there will be book talk there.
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