Eh? What are you talking about? Who is pissing their career away?
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These two if they aren’t careful, more so Lingard but I can see Rashford following him if he doesn’t shape up. Since he scored that penalty against PSG he has got ideas above his station.
Lingard already had a way better career than someone with his talent should have. Playing for Manchester United, played quite some games for England and now building a JLingz brand... all that as a very limited player with almost no goals and/or assists in his career. If he came from the Stoke City academy he would have been mid table premier league at the very best.
Rashford is a talented player with specific qualities (speed, directness, can go past a man) and good enough to atleast be in a Manchester United squad. It would be sad if he ended up on the West Ham bench because he thinks he already made it at Manchester United as the new Ronaldo.
I’m hoping the jlingz brand as a positive is sarcasm? 
Both play for Man Utd and earn 100k a week or so.
If that's pissing your career away I want in!
I think that’s their mentality unfortunately
In my opinion he shouldnt play for Manchester United but because he does he plays for England and was it possible for him to start the JLingz brand. If he played for a midtable team nobody would care about the Jlingz brand and he most likely wouldnt have started it.
So yes, for him starting the JLingz brand is a positive thing.
So yes, for him starting the JLingz brand is a positive thing.
I don't think either of them can be knocked for effort.
For lacking quality yes, or looking like buffoons in their "fashion", but not for lack of effort.
I agree on the pitch they at least try, but I think off the pitch they are so distracted from what their primary role is it isn’t helpful at all.
Two ways of looking at it - yes we'd prefer players only care about football and improving, but on a realistic level, they have tonnes of free time, outside of the demands of what the club ask, so it's probably not a bad thing for them to fuel their energy into. Better than sitting on computer games all day, gambling, or worse.
Which, in a nutshell, summarizes why there's so much hate for him.
He's trading entirely on the Utd brand, while doing very little to contribute to it... The guy does trademark goal celebrations - whilst scoring 4 goals a season.
He's the walking, talking, moonwalking embodiment of someone focussed on himself rather than on the team.
Billing himself as a superstar footballer, an icon, whilst actually being a bang average footballer, blessed to have a high profile due to playing for Man Utd.
Worse still, he now seems to be emerging as some sort of shitty pied piper, dragging other promising (actual) youngsters into his shitosphere.
And so what ? Those are videos, how some of you experts can draw up conclusions from short clips where they are having fun is nuts.
That's taking arm chair psychology to a ridiculous level.
Maybe Rashford is just a bit shy ? Who the feck knows what's up but to make up stupid conclusions is crazy.
People who namedrop Becks in order to justify Lingard's antics need a reality check.
Quite frankly those who vehemently defend this clowning are as silly as those who throw shit at him/them on social media.
Quite frankly those who vehemently defend this clowning are as silly as those who throw shit at him/them on social media.
The unfortunate issue with Lingard (if you ignore the very idea that he is a footballer) is that he’s just a bit of prat. If he wasn’t playing football for Manchester United then you’d half expect to see him on Dinner Date, making his own concoction of banter on toast. He just seems like that sort of guy.
I mean, I’m sure this applies to many professional footballers. But few spell knob so openly like Jesse Lingard. Factor in being in poor form for months, releasing a clothing range days before a derby and posting crass commemorative messages with the hashtag jlingz. I mean, what do you really expect?
Give it a few days and he’ll probably pop up in the Love Island villa.
I mean, I’m sure this applies to many professional footballers. But few spell knob so openly like Jesse Lingard. Factor in being in poor form for months, releasing a clothing range days before a derby and posting crass commemorative messages with the hashtag jlingz. I mean, what do you really expect?
Give it a few days and he’ll probably pop up in the Love Island villa.
Jesse Lingard is just the modern day Lee Sharpe, easy example.
They are both twats.
Rashford has some talent, but believes his own hype too much. Lingard is shit.
Rashford has some talent, but believes his own hype too much. Lingard is shit.
Hows this lasted 9 pages?
Would this have lasted 9 pages if it was
Mctominay? Or Dalot?
Would this have lasted 9 pages if it was
Mctominay? Or Dalot?
A lot of people think every Footballer should try to reach the level of say Cristiano and if they do not make that level they failed in someway. "They have not achieved anything" compared to who? You make look at them as players who are not good enough or who have not made the best of their talents. But, the likes of Rashford and Lingard if they compared themselves to the kids from their neighborhood, kids they went to school with and even players they were in the academy with they are definitely a success. And when they go back to their old neighborhood or back to their old school they are looked up to as a success. And they probably were able to buy their parents and help their family and close friends out financially so they would be viewed as a success in their eyes.
It's the chances of us winning the league with them in the squad.
Can we offer both these clowns plus cash for Harry Kane to spurs?
Are you kidding me? Can someone please terminate lingards contract quietly and quickly?
That's how much revenue Jlingz has made since launch and Rashford bought that 1 piece the profit came from.
On a serious note Rashford needs to stay well clear of that man child other wise when he's a 27 year old teenager he will wonder where he's life's gone.
On a serious note Rashford needs to stay well clear of that man child other wise when he's a 27 year old teenager he will wonder where he's life's gone.
Rashford should stay away from Lingard. Lingard is poisoning him.
There's an odd logic to some of the posts here. It goes 'Jess Lingard and Marcus Rashford' should not have a social media presence and be involved in legal outside activities because Manchester United have been an unstable club and under-achieving team for 6 years now and they are part of the under-achieving team.'
Those two hardly constitute an example of what is wrong with Manchester United. There's a long list of that starting from top-down and if you want to point the finger at players, Sanchez and Rojo are the two outstanding examples of what's wrong with the team.
It's the same kind of logic that hammered Cleverly for going to a night club post-England going out of a major tournament when he was back home. No he wasn't threatening anyone and off his face on drink or drugs - he was dancing in the street. In his free time.
Of course off-pitch distractions can be destructive. Beckham was a dream player on the pitch, fantastic with charity work etc but 'got into bed with the papers' as Sir Alex said, the problem was not his outside interests so much. It was and is the enormous PR overdrive and the inserting of Brand David and Victoria into just about everything without being smart enough to understand you can't tell the media and people to leave you alone just when you feel like it. It's symbiosis - mutual parasitism.
The complications that ensured were avoidable if Becks especially had wanted to take a few steps back but self-promotion had become those two's drug. It still is but the public is more savvy and cynical about the propaganda. A lot of moaning about the tabloids but in fact the Daily Mail is always running with spin placed by their PR.
Jess Lingard and Marcus Rashford are using Instagram like everybody else. Of course their position as United players gives them more of an audience and attention but they've also used that position to support their communities and by what they are doing show that the door can open for others.
Those two hardly constitute an example of what is wrong with Manchester United. There's a long list of that starting from top-down and if you want to point the finger at players, Sanchez and Rojo are the two outstanding examples of what's wrong with the team.
It's the same kind of logic that hammered Cleverly for going to a night club post-England going out of a major tournament when he was back home. No he wasn't threatening anyone and off his face on drink or drugs - he was dancing in the street. In his free time.
Of course off-pitch distractions can be destructive. Beckham was a dream player on the pitch, fantastic with charity work etc but 'got into bed with the papers' as Sir Alex said, the problem was not his outside interests so much. It was and is the enormous PR overdrive and the inserting of Brand David and Victoria into just about everything without being smart enough to understand you can't tell the media and people to leave you alone just when you feel like it. It's symbiosis - mutual parasitism.
The complications that ensured were avoidable if Becks especially had wanted to take a few steps back but self-promotion had become those two's drug. It still is but the public is more savvy and cynical about the propaganda. A lot of moaning about the tabloids but in fact the Daily Mail is always running with spin placed by their PR.
Jess Lingard and Marcus Rashford are using Instagram like everybody else. Of course their position as United players gives them more of an audience and attention but they've also used that position to support their communities and by what they are doing show that the door can open for others.
I think Lingard needs to be sold. He's an OK squad player at best, far too frequently fails to deliver. When they should be keeping a low profile after what was a dismal season for all the players, he's posting constantly on his twitter account. Frigging social media generation.
It's absolutely disgraceful the treatment they're getting.
Sanchez should not post pics of his dogs. His movie should not be released in his country.
Lukaku should not do any ads. Pogba should not post pics of his family or his pilgrimage.
Lukaku should not do any ads. Pogba should not post pics of his family or his pilgrimage.
The only people who are talking about Lingard living on his previous potential as a young player are twats on instagram, reddit, and unfortunately this forum as of late. Saying he of all people has gotten a free pass is absolutely extraordinary when you look at the abuse he's received for daring to spend his money on what he wants to spend it on. He's always one of the first helping out with the Man United Foundation, he's always one of the last to leave any autograph and picture ops for the kids outside Old Trafford, and he always does what he can to help the team, without complaining about what position, lack of game time, or any of the shite we see with modern footballers. He's also one of the only lads who stands up for himself and his team mates when shit goes down.
Has he had a good season? No. Very few in the team have. Is he good enough to be starting consistently for Manchester United? Perhaps not. However, is it absolutely cringe worthy to see arseholes on here call him a shit player, and all other sorts of ridiculous insults coming from people who haven't kicked a football sober since they were a teenager? You bet ya.
Stuff like this is genuinely embarrassing.
Has he had a good season? No. Very few in the team have. Is he good enough to be starting consistently for Manchester United? Perhaps not. However, is it absolutely cringe worthy to see arseholes on here call him a shit player, and all other sorts of ridiculous insults coming from people who haven't kicked a football sober since they were a teenager? You bet ya.
Stuff like this is genuinely embarrassing.
You are right: stuff like this is an embarrassment:
Calling someone an Arsehole because they call Lingard a shit player is an embarrassment.
Most people say the real root of criticisms towards Lingard have to do with the on-pitch non-performance for a prolonged period of time. Trying to defend Lingard because he signs autographs and helps out the Man United Foundation, when no one criticized him for that, is an embarrassment.
Saying Lingard stands up for himself and his teammates when shit goes down, when we all know about his behavior on THAT Bus when the shit really came down, it’s an embarrassment.
Saying that only twats can have the opinion that Lingard is living on his previous potential as a young player, it’s an embarrassment.
In other words, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and calling people you don’t know twats and arseholes just because we don’t share your opinion, well that’s truly an embarrassment.
Dear me.
You're not part of that 0.012 percent definitely
You're not part of that 0.012 percent definitely
In my opinion, we need to get rid of Lingard, the sooner the better. He is a forward who seldom scores or assists. Many of our attacks are stifled due to his terrible decision making or execution. Squad player? Give a youth player a chance instead.
Yes, all that is going to help our league position, won't it?
Top Red medal for this guy.
Never claimed to be a top red, read the rest of my post. It's the personal attacks that I'm calling ridiculous. Not the comments on his form.
Them not posting on social media isn't going to help out league position too.
The main problem is that United fans are horrendously spoilt and most have never experienced years of mediocrity like 99% of other fans. Our fans have a black and white viewpoint where you sre either Man Utd level (meaning Premier League Champion level) or utter shit. But then if some of our players, like Lingard, are utter shit, then how shit are the players at Huddersfield? Utter utter shit? Or at Leeds? Humungously shit? What about at Salford or Accrington Stanley? Mind bogglingly shit? Or how about the football played by posters on this forum? Super mind-numbingly outrageously fecking shite. So however shite Lingard is, it just makes you, statistically, 10,000 times shitter than him.
What’s bad about that post is that I don’t even think Lingard even gets in championship promotion chasing teams like hudds and leeds. seriously. he’s shit and in leeds case bielsa would throw him into the sea because of his social media bollocks.
Who's the shittiest, pound for pound?
Put things in perspective, I'd rather have the RWs and RBs from Huddersfield or Leeds than Young or Lingard. However, I do concede those 2 might get starts at Accrington Stanley or Salford if they are lucky.
Lingard is the product of the give youth a chance mentality tbf