This.Can the OP please change the thread title? It's not like we are losing Becks or CR. An inconsistent young player who thinks he has made it. Who on his best days is a 7/10 and on his worst days is a -1/10. Our own Theo Walcott. A guy who has very low football IQ. Trash on set pieces. Can't dribble, can't pass. Has serious tunnel vision. Somebody please send him on the next available flight to Barcelona.
And please stop with the 'he is anti-english' thing. People are not against english players. The greatest United player is an Englishman. They are against mediocre players. And Rashford and his buddy 'J-Lingz' are the definition of mediocrity. And the only people defending them are those who see some non existent 'potential' in them.
Pretty much agree with all this, but just curious with the bolded part?Can the OP please change the thread title? It's not like we are losing Becks or CR. An inconsistent young player who thinks he has made it. Who on his best days is a 7/10 and on his worst days is a -1/10. Our own Theo Walcott. A guy who has very low football IQ. Trash on set pieces. Can't dribble, can't pass. Has serious tunnel vision. Somebody please send him on the next available flight to Barcelona.
And please stop with the 'he is anti-english' thing. People are not against english players. The greatest United player is an Englishman. They are against mediocre players. And Rashford and his buddy 'J-Lingz' are the definition of mediocrity. And the only people defending them are those who see some non existent 'potential' in them.
I was talking about Sir Bobby Carlton. Factoring in things like longevity, united youth player, survivor of Munich, captain, balon d'or winner etc. His name has been associated with the club for like the past 60 years. I think that he is what every United player should aspire to be. Of course, if people put Best or Law over him, I would have no problem with it.Pretty much agree with all this, but just curious with the bolded part?
Best is Northern Irish. Law Scottish... Charlton? He was a fantastic player no doubt but our best? Rooney? Surely not....
Harsh? This is the top level! If he was similair to Mbappe then yes he could have some inconsistensies because we'd knew his abilities and talent. But he's not on that level. Look at Madrid they bought and got 4 out of 5 champions leagues in return. We need to be serious and ambitious like them. There is no time for fecking around no more. Or else we will lagg behind and be the new Liverpool of England.Wow some of you are harsh. He’s 21 he’s been made to play 3 different styles under 3 different managers, he been put in 3 different positions. There has been no consistency to his development and yet people here want to get rid because he’s not performing consistently at an elite level.
I think getting rid now would be very short sighted, the guy is clearly gifted and has scored some amazing goals. If this is the way he is treated by some of you I dread to think what will happen to James here if and when he has an off form patch.
Young players are inconsistent, your club has been massively inconsistent in terms of manager, style and tactics. It’s hardly surprising Rashford has struggled for periods.
You also don't have to look too hard to find examples of players failing to take the leap from promising youngster to successful top level player though, that's the problem. It's all very well crossing our fingers and hoping he works out long term but we've got to be realistic and accept that it's far from guaranteed.He is 21. Very few players are fully developed at that age, and you don't have to look too hard to find examples of players taking massive leaps beyond that age. You only have to look at our own recent history, Beckham had just come back from his loan at Preston and Scholes was struggling to establish himself. Not everyone is Giggs or Rooney, development rarely occurs in a pleasant linear manner.
Show a little patience.
Agree with this. He's a young striker with talent, but at that age he's going to be inconsistent and will still need time to develop.He is 21. Very few players are fully developed at that age, and you don't have to look too hard to find examples of players taking massive leaps beyond that age. You only have to look at our own recent history, Beckham had just come back from his loan at Preston and Scholes was struggling to establish himself. Not everyone is Giggs or Rooney, development rarely occurs in a pleasant linear manner.
Show a little patience.
Beckham had scored 2 goals in 5 matches at Preston, one of which was from a corner. He ran his socks off for Preston just like he did at United.He is 21. Very few players are fully developed at that age, and you don't have to look too hard to find examples of players taking massive leaps beyond that age. You only have to look at our own recent history, Beckham had just come back from his loan at Preston and Scholes was struggling to establish himself. Not everyone is Giggs or Rooney, development rarely occurs in a pleasant linear manner.
Show a little patience.
You also don't have to look too hard to find examples of players failing to take the leap from promising youngster to successful top level player though, that's the problem. It's all very well crossing our fingers and hoping he works out long term but we've got to be realistic and accept that it's far from guaranteed.
I'm all for showing patience if Marcus is willing to show patience before he starts demanding wages he's not yet worthy of.
Little to disagree with here. I don't know how good he will end up, but given how highly rated he is by knowledgeable people throughout football and not just at Utd I think he is worth a little faith.Agree with this. He's a young striker with talent, but at that age he's going to be inconsistent and will still need time to develop.
He shouldn't be first choice for Utd right now based on this. He should be a squad player developing in order to lead the line here. Right now I still think he'd be best playing from the left supporting a number 9.
All that said, I do get the impression he's let it all go to his head a little this last 12 months, and now these 'reports' of Barca wanting him, while hes negotiating a new contract? Seems pretty obvious where they're coming from, and its not Barca! He needs to have a little word with himself, and question who's telling him what.
Beckham had scored 2 goals in 5 matches at Preston, one of which was from a corner. He ran his socks off for Preston just like he did at United.
Scholes was a youth product who scored on his full league debut, his FA Cup debut, his league cup start, and his full England debut.
If you map the youth trajectory of every single world class player, you will find examples of performances that Rashford can only dream of. Mark Hughes was a two time winner of the PFA trophy, and even he showed better class than Rashford at 21.
Didn't Rashford do the same?Didn't Rashford do the same? Scholes did struggle to secure a place after that initial impact, transitioned to midfield and it was only really when Keane did his acl that he became a key member of the team, he was still splitting midfield duties with Butt up to the treble season even so.
They see something that you are blind to, potential.Barca aren’t signing Rashford, don’t worry about it. They generally add players who will improve their team.
Foreign fans hate Rashford, Im mates with a lot of united fans and none of them ever bring up Rashford as a player we need to sell.
If you come on here or go on YouTube the hate for Rashford is unbelievable. The fact that people can’t see the potential in this kid is beyond me.
A 21 year old kid who has come through the academy is the reason we are shite? It’s hilarious.
Rashford is highly rated by all the top pundits, managers and players across the world. Barca couldn’t possibly be after him because he’s shit says the clueless feck who spends more time watching basketball.
Of course United fans from Manchester and from around Manchester like him because he’s come through the academy. You’re forgetting he’s what this club is all about. Young Talent coming through the academy playing for the first team.
You hate him because he’s something you’ll never be. A United fan.
He acts like he is a Ronaldo or a RooneyWhy does every young talent have to be a Ronaldo or Rooney? What was Salah doing at Rashfords age?
I thought we where already a club in free fall. not been able to compete for the EPL for 7 years would mean something would it not.I'd be fuming if it happened. Would just cement our place as a club in free fall.
You are correct, he didn't. Only scored on Europa League, Premier League, England, England U21, League Cup and Champions League Debuts.Didn't Rashford do the same?
No he didn't.
What's your point? If it's so important to nurture 21 year olds in case they became world class, why did Sir Alex flog John O'Kane (class of 92) to the lower leagues. Same for Chadwick. My point is that it's still possible to judge a player at 21. The top coaches can do it, but so can the average person. By that I mean that the latter can do it with more or less success.
Completely right. Well said.Foreign fans hate Rashford, Im mates with a lot of united fans and none of them ever bring up Rashford as a player we need to sell.
If you come on here or go on YouTube the hate for Rashford is unbelievable. The fact that people can’t see the potential in this kid is beyond me.
A 21 year old kid who has come through the academy is the reason we are shite? It’s hilarious.
Rashford is highly rated by all the top pundits, managers and players across the world. Barca couldn’t possibly be after him because he’s shit says the clueless feck who spends more time watching basketball.
Of course United fans from Manchester and from around Manchester like him because he’s come through the academy. You’re forgetting he’s what this club is all about. Young Talent coming through the academy playing for the first team.
You hate him because he’s something you’ll never be. A United fan.
If what you say is true, why are fans in this very forum bidding Rashford a cheerful adieu? Where is the unified outcry against this supposed transfer? Show me the PFA young player of the year that Rashford won.You are correct, he didn't. Only scored on Europa League, Premier League, England, England U21, League Cup and Champions League Debuts.
The overwhelming majority of 21 years olds have not showed as much as Rashford. Most players of that age are killing themselves to get a game, Rashford has already shown he can be decisive in big matches, while guys like Chawick and O' Kane and John Curtis struggled to make any impact at even League Cup level, at the same age.
Potential for more running?They see something that you are blind to, potential.
You got nothing to say about all those debuts he scored on - given that you raised the topic? Some might say that is a lot more impressive than a few goals for Preston North End...If what you say is true, why are fans in this very forum bidding Rashford a cheerful adieu? Where is the unified outcry against this supposed transfer? Show me the PFA young player of the year that Rashford won.
Surely you have heard of the phrase resting on one's laurels. A week is a long time in football.You got nothing to say about all those debuts he scored on - given that you raised the topic? Some might say that is a lot more impressive than a few goals for Preston North End...
Ironically, my hope was he would be our next Chicharito or OGS type impact sub.Surely you have heard of the phrase resting on one's laurels. A week is a long time in football.
I was grateful when Rashford scored those one nil winners. But with LVG gone he has regressed. He won't be a CR. But I'm not asking for that. I'm asking from him to be a Klose, an Inzaghi or a Muller. My hopes have lessened with the same speed that Rashford's limitations have been exposed.