You can't be actually serious with that? He had a simple pass to Young but opted to dawdle on the ball and take way too many touches which basically sums him up. Your analysis is hogwash.
Pogba Future
- Thread starter wolvored
- Start date
He has been found out at United. He won't be looked back on by neutrals as a hit in this league. He gets eaten alive by most pundist/analysts and virtually every non-united fan I speak to question what it is about him that's so special.
The only people that really rate him that highly are those on the Caf.
Again, France has the square root of feck all to do with club level performances and Italy was a one horse league. Real's fans aren't as nice as ours have been and La Liga isn't as easy as Serie A.
Another Big Time Charlie. Needs to feck off and take his stats with him.
What are the lottery numbers while you're at it?
It’s not just Pogba, I obviously didn’t make myself clear. But he is the type of player that we don’t need.
Everyone else you mentioned bar Lingard seems to actually try for the club albeit not being so good. I’m not saying they should stay and yes they are a problem because we need good players. Although I am more of a believer that even if you have average players, as long as they want to play for you and are fully dedicated then you can achieve a lot more.
when you have a great player who is on tonnes of money and they don’t actually want to be here, that doesn’t reflect well on the lower earners who are trying at least. It most likely causes a bad environment on and off the pitch.
My personal opinion on him and Lingard for example is they think they are celebrities more than footballers. They get paid the money by United to be a footballer... nothing else. Get rid of the celebrities and invest in the footballers.
Our best player. Must make a top signing to replace him or we're in deep trouble next season.
He is freakin leaving! If you’re not playing for the shirt you shouldn’t be here. What happend to the players that play for 10+ years for one club? Let him go, let him go for glory... I really hope we come back and start smashing everyone.
I like Pogba, but what is really annoying me is that he wanted Jose gone, and now that happened, he still wants to jump ship.
These stats speak for themselves, and will come as no surprise to anyone at all. We will miss his talent. Shame he was involved at a time when so much was going on. I think got caught up in it to a degree, but anything thing he does, especially the bad, was always highlighted, almost celebrated by some. Didn't help that he didn't have any one around him with his presence, ability and confidence. At Juve he had the likes of Pirlo, Buffon, Chiellini... and the whole French team are quality. Such players play alongside Pogba, whilst we had too many looking to him to set the tempo etc...
I'll miss him. A big shame, but we move on. We must. Hope Ole' doesn't delay this, and just gets on with it.
Love this. Feck De Gea, Pogba and Lukaku. We only need committed and talented players.This thread has been such an enjoyable and comedic read. My view is Pogba can feck off for 150 million (130 million minimum) and don't let the door hit him on the way out. We can then take the money and build an actual, energetic functional midfield. There are a shit ton of great midfielders available right now that would hugely improve our team, you all know who they are as the names are flying around this thread.
An example of what we could do: Bruno Fernandes (70 million), Tielemans (40 million) and Partey (43 million.) That would be a huge upgrade and there a plethora of affordable alernative options to these guys as well. Use the Pogba money to buy a new midfield, and use our original budget to improve the defence and right wing eg. Maguire (80 million),Wan Bissaka (50 million) and Nicolas Pepe (60 million). Suddenly we've got a vastly improved team.
De Gea and Lukaku can get fecked too if they don't want to be here. Both can be replaced, have no doubts about it. All of you idiots crying about the fans forcing Pogba into this are seriously deluded, this was always their bloody plan. I've seen this club lose players a lot better than this fairweather Freddy
I will literally Venmo anyone $50 if they can prove that Pogba had more good performances than bad performances at United.
Look at it again, he looks up looking for options. There isn't any! So loses the ball. The sooner people realise this is not a fitness issue but a major tactical issue at Utd the better! Every top team has balance, we don't, thus making us look shite! Everything, and I mean everything goes down our left wing, which then comes crowded, whoever is on the ball looks for the switch, its not on, because Lingard or Mata has vacated the right wing! We lose the ball and all of a sudden we are prone to counter attacks mostly through our right centre of the pitch.Yeah you're absolutely right mate he had no option but to lose the ball there..
Also, Pogba looks bad at times, because more often than not Matic is too slow and not good enough!
Pogba was one of the top players in a team that reached the CL finals twice. I assure you if Pogba wasn't effective for them than he wouldn't have stayed. That team has produced more World class winners then ole had shat dumps. They know their stuff
But let's minimise his success. Maybe these clubs deserve their stars as much as we deserve the down to earth mules we've got
When he makes the effort, 100 million plus.
When he can’t be arsed, 10p and a 4 pack of Stella.
When he can’t be arsed, 10p and a 4 pack of Stella.
Ask Solskjaer, he just won it about 3 months ago!
My concern is not losing Pogba, great player but he can feck off. My concern is we have an incompetent board that can’t be trusted with replacing him correctly.
What sort of logic is this? Juventus reached the final twice and Pogba must be great? You know its a team of XI and a squad effort, right? Or did Pogba go in and kick the ball on behalf of everyone?
Quit making excuses. You can actually keep a ball from being dispossessed if there are no passing options going forward, believe it or not. Literally happens with any possession based team.
Young is free on the right?
No one to pass to, just lazily lose possession. Great stuff
He must think Jordan Henderson is world class too.
No he was great in a ruthless team who reached the CL twice. Which is why United and now Real want him. No one wants our hardworking and honest mules though
The same "tactical issue" was there with 3 managers using 3 different playing styles. He could have passed horizontally or back but instead tried something fancy and fecked it up.
Zidane wants him, the board of Real themselves are reportedly far from convinced. As for us, well we've fecked up sideways under Woody so we are far from a good measuring stick.
So as above, Jordon Henderson is world class, is he? Same with Wjinaldum?
Oh piss off mate. He’s mucking about and takes a fresh air shot. It’s pathetic.
I like him but some people will defend anything.
Looks like I might get my wish. Now is the right time to cash in as we need a complete rebuild anyway, makes perfect sense to start it as soon as possible as keeping an unhappy player at the start of a rebuild could be very damaging.
Massive few weeks coming up.
He hasn't been, no. Ah yes, those genius Sky pundits; if they say so. He is rated highly here than by opposition fans because we watch much more than any opposition fan does.
Italy being a one horse league doesn't change one thing about how good he is. Couldn't care less about Real fans, but he really doesn't need the La Liga to be any easy to shine there.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
I fully agree with this, even as a Pogba supporter and a fan who’s gutted by the news of him wanting out.
...you can show as many stats as you like and say Pogba this Pogba that for United, but bottom line is he’s one of the most talented but frustrating and inconsistent players ever. He shows up in spurts and on a game-to-game basis you just don’t know which version of him will show up. I love the guy and all and don’t want to see him leave because the quality of our squad is poor as is but he’s no Hazard if we’re being honest. Pogba is very marketable and all but as the video says, he hasn’t let the footballing do the talking for him and that’s what United fans will remember about him.
I am confident that they would prefer Pogba to the latter. However I am sure they prefer to keep them rather then swap them with the likes of Jones, young, Shaw and the rest of our clowns
Anyone with an ounce of talent seems to want to leave this club.
Anybody defending this bum should be banned.
More than just sky pundits. A lot of ex players question what he does too. A lot of neutral fans question him and so do certain ex United players who know a thing or two about owning the position at Old Trafford. I'd back their opinion on Pogba's performances far higher than most others.
And of course it matters if it's a one horse league. He has no competition for feck sake. He comes here, under-performs for 3 seasons and then goes off to Real
Lets see how he does in Spain. Will be interesting to watch.I'm not talking about anyone else and the state of Manchester United. I'm only talking about Paul Pogba and how ridiculously overrated he is on this forum. His followers will blindly support him to no end because he was able to score a decent tally over 3 months out of 9 , half of which were from the penalty spot.
I know we're not in a good place, and that DDG wants out, and Herrera left on a free. I don't think we need them to rebuild. We certainly don't need Pogba. There are great alternatives in the market that can make us a better team than we were, it just takes time and a drastic change in transfer policy. No more targeting social media brand fools, and start targeting value. Klopp did it absolutely perfectly with Liverpool.
Well I'm slowly starting to worry about that rebuild. Hate the stupid contract extensions and I thought Ole said he wanted to have most of the signings done by Juli 1st but its starting to look grim to be honest. Real have splashed 300 million in no time, honestly don't see why we hurry it up a little, we have plenty to spend and have only signed a championship player so far. United needs to be aggressive and show some urgency because we are being so far away from being a powerhouse again. I can fully understand why Pogba wants to leave.
We aren't the ones who gave him a first team place almost immediately despite having any first team experience whatsoever. Juve did. Then United spent ridiculous money to get him and now Real want him for probably more money then we spent. These are top clubs with top managers who know one thing or two about football then you doMore than just sky pundits. A lot of ex players question what he does too. A lot of neutral fans question him and so do certain ex United players who know a thing or two about owning the position at Old Trafford. I'd back their opinion on Pogba's performances far higher than most others.
And of course it matters if it's a one horse league. He has no competition for feck sake. He comes here, under-performs for 3 seasons and then goes off to Real
I'm not talking about anyone else and the state of Manchester United. I'm only talking about Paul Pogba and how ridiculously overrated he is on this forum. His followers will blindly support him to no end because he was able to score a decent tally over 3 months out of 9 , half of which were from the penalty spot.
How do you know he's poison?? From what you've read in the papers and online?
You can do much better than $50
Juve were in the process of a rebuild, were taking zero risk as he signed on a free fecking contract. It's an obvious move that anyone would take, I would have done the same
But then you have to be sensible and understand Serie A is not equivalent to Premier League. Shining in one doesn't necessitate you shine in the other, and when you're spunking £90m you need to know it's a big risk. We were the only daft feckers to do it. It was well reported Real took a sniff, saw the price and laughed at the stupidity of the request before moving on.
And can you stop talking about Real as a whole wanting him? It's well reported Zidane is stubbornly making Perez go for Pogba despite the Real higher ups not being convinced about Pogba as a player.
Poison is a harsh word for sure, but he was never good news for our dressing room. I knew that the day we played our opening match against Leicester, got 3 points, and he hijacked the topic in an interview to talk about how he's unhappy etc. From our first fecking match of the season.
We have to sell him. A player who wants out is not needed here next season. Agree a fee with Juve or Real, buy in players, sell him. Knowing us, we wont buy anyone, and inevitably sell Pogba late in the summer and then get quoted even more ridiculous sums for transfers than already. Now that everyone knows we have even more money to spend.
I mean, I could really just say $1000 but $50 sounds more realistic.
Lot of noise coming out about this seemingly to have been the plan for him and Raiola all along. Do three years at United and then move to Madrid. At this point it's hard to trust anything otherwise.