Ole anger with Lingard

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he talks about how much action the bed has seen and yet in nearly every picture he is stood there beside his mates, not a woman to be seen. The only action that bed seen was Palmela and her five sisters! What male who thinks he's a player with the ladies rents a room with 4 lads in Miami?
 

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Jaysus. That's three threads discussing a minute of fairly benign holiday footage. Really hope we sign someone soon, if only to give us something else to talk about!
I assure you, we are almost moaning about lack of signings.
With our only signing being a Championship player, there is nothing to be positive about.
 

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Is there an actual source for Ole being angry about this or just the usual Caf wishful thinking and Lingard bashing?
I bet Ole would be pissed off with this type of unnecessary publicity. I would hope he would expect the players to live up to the same standards he used to live up to whilst being a player.
 

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This one I beleive

There is immaturity and then there is being a complete idiot. I'm sorry, there is no defense. He is 26, a Man Utd player and acting like some crazy youtuber desperate for views. Be crazy in your free time, sure, but put it online as if you are proud of it or you think it makes you look cool? I feel embarrassed by what this guy posts a lot more then Pogbas comments.

I actually worry about what kind of influence this guy has over Rashford and the other up and coming youngsters.
 

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I bet Ole would be pissed off with this type of unnecessary publicity. I would hope he would expect the players to live up to the same standards he used to live up to whilst being a player.
The guy is under enough pressure as it is, trying to get players in etc without this kind of thing.
 

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I laughed at his mate humping a pillow.

I wouldn't post it on my social media profile, but live and let live, eh? At the end it's harmless.

He can delete his social media, won't matter if he doesn't perform on the pitch. He does that.. this is no problem
 

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The trouble is presenting situations as 'thinking of', 'are about to prepare', 'will happen soon' etc. is the stock-in-trade for football journalists and ITK wankers on twitter, as they can speculate any manner of rubbish from possible transfer to what Ole's having for his breakfast on a given morning knowing they will not have to explain in detail why what they reported didn't happen.

Proposing certain possibilities and discussing them amongst ourselves on the forum in good humour can be fun way to pass the time during the off season but I'd advise against taking any of this social media slurry seriously when so much of it is disseminated in bad faith by people who are uninterested in informing fans of real events.

Oh I understand the social media culture, and I don't blame the journalists, this is their bread and butter.What annoys me is that our hierarchy seems to be embracing that, more news about no news related to united seems to be adding more value than actual news. The fact that no other club seems to have this (at lease in my opinion) is what angers me.
 

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My question is: Why do you as an adult care what a man does on his free time? He's not broken any laws or done anything that any of you havent done. The differnce is that he put it on social media. Is it the number of people that saw it that's the problem?

Honestly, I'm much more concerned that children see this and take ques from their rolemodels, than adults seeing this. None of us should feel indignated that he did this. Its beyond harmless to use some casual profanity and hump a pillow. If an adult sees it.
 

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Are there any sources at all about this being a hack? Ive looked again and all I can find is that he was trying to save the video and uploaded by accident. I see nothing at all about a snapchat hack.
 

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There are no games for the media to comment on, to hold and enthral their readers, so they take to commenting about players playing (admittedly stupid) games, summers here at last!
 

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Are there any sources at all about this being a hack? Ive looked again and all I can find is that he was trying to save the video and uploaded by accident. I see nothing at all about a snapchat hack.
Of course this wasn't a snapchat hack. If that was the case Jesse's dickpicks would be all over the internet by now
 

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I have, and I saw no mentions of this snap chat leak. Care to provide a link? In any case, it seems theres always something with this guy, and theres always an excuse. The excuse is usually "my staff did it" though.
It's a premium account and generally private to his "friends". Obviously its easy to leak as this is how social media work. My point is regardless of his stuff in SM he won't get better at football by not posting there.

So now you are comparing Lingard to Neymar???

If Lingard produced the performances that Neymar would then he can motorboat the queen for all I care.

When he is dire at his job, a bad influence in the dressing room, has zero professionalism and is robbing a living and being a complete helmet in the process, he can make his way out of the door
Not really his fault he's been offered a contract mate. I have more issues with those who offered him that money than him taking it.

Obviously he likes good life(I mean who wouldn't) and if you were in his shoes I doubt you'd stay put. :)
 

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My question is: Why do you as an adult care what a man does on his free time? He's not broken any laws or done anything that any of you havent done. The differnce is that he put it on social media. Is it the number of people that saw it that's the problem?

Honestly, I'm much more concerned that children see this and take ques from their rolemodels, than adults seeing this. None of us should feel indignated that he did this. Its beyond harmless to use some casual profanity and hump a pillow. If an adult sees it.
If thats your question, you will find your answer on the posts already provided. What he does is cringe, but not the point of why people are annoyed by him.
 

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It’s just kids having fun. We have all been there. The biggest difference is social media. Today some share stuff they probably should keep for themselves. I guess it’s enough to have a word with him, since he is a pro baller.
 

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It’s just kids having fun. We have all been there. The biggest difference is social media. Today some share stuff they probably should keep for themselves. I guess it’s enough to have a word with him, since he is a pro baller.
Exactly. If SM was on in the 90's I doubt it would've been different for the likes of Giggs, Becks, etc.
 

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It's a premium account and generally private to his "friends". Obviously its easy to leak as this is how social media work. My point is regardless of his stuff in SM he won't get better at football by not posting there.
Thats not a source, I want a source. Because if he was hacked, then it moots the point of conversation. If he uploaded it himself, then everything I said stands correct. His performances on the field have nothing to do with it. Now provide a source.
 

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Exactly. If SM was on in the 90's I doubt it would've been different for the likes of Giggs, Becks, etc.
Of course it would’ve been different, SAF wouldn’t let his players act like 9 year olds on ritalin having their accounts associated with the club, let alone after an absolute disaster of a season.
 

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Oh I understand the social media culture, and I don't blame the journalists, this is their bread and butter.What annoys me is that our hierarchy seems to be embracing that, more news about no news related to united seems to be adding more value than actual news. The fact that no other club seems to have this (at lease in my opinion) is what angers me.
I assume it is United putting out 'AWB should be done in 48 hours', which is definitely positive news worthy of clinging onto. Aside from that there haven't been many crumbs of comfort, which I understand has the potential to worry and frustrate United fans in what feels very much like a make or break summer.

The thing is I genuinely don't know to what extent the club should be held responsible for the combination of no news, bad news and the latest on JLingz making the majority of our column inches at present, and until I have a better idea on that I'm not going to let myself get too down on our summer so far.
 

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Thats not a source, I want a source. Because if he was hacked, then it moots the point of conversation. If he uploaded it himself, then everything I said stands correct. His performances on the field have nothing to do with it. Now provide a source.
I read some of the comments on twitter that it was a private feed to his friends on Snapchat. I didn't say it was hacked, but generally it's a private account that he has to approve you in order for you to see that video :)
 

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Of course it would’ve been different, SAF wouldn’t let his players act like 9 year olds on ritalin having their accounts associated with the club, let alone after an absolute disaster of a season.
Becks was always on Fergie's radar as soon as he married a pop star. Imagine if there was social media at the time on top of it.

Lingard wouldn't have played for us at the time because he's poor, not due to posting crap online.
 

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It is weird that he hangs around with guys much younger than himself, maybe his mates his own age have grown up a bit too much?

Couldn't give a toss about any of this stuff, what I care about is that for the last 6 months he didn't look like he was giving maximum effort on the pitch and he's simply nowhere near good enough to not be giving 100%. If that is linked to his Instagramming or whatever fine, discipline him for it. If not, we either need to work out what is causing his apparent lack of application or get rid.
 

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It's a premium account and generally private to his "friends". Obviously its easy to leak as this is how social media work. My point is regardless of his stuff in SM he won't get better at football by not posting there.



Not really his fault he's been offered a contract mate. I have more issues with those who offered him that money than him taking it.

Obviously he likes good life(I mean who wouldn't) and if you were in his shoes I doubt you'd stay put. :)
Yeah not saying that mate, not saying he don't deserve his contract and all that, to be fair his agent deserves a knighthood for getting him 100k a week plus.

All for enjoying your lift, living it up if you have the money but at the same time imo you have to remember who you play for and what that means. Me or you can record videos of us being idiots as about 30 people will see it, he has to remember that playing for United has that added responsibility.

Saying that if he was performing on the pitch I would just ignore all his off the field stuff, but the fact that he is shocking does not come across as caring that much (look at the difference between his attitude and McTom, like chalk and cheese), it does leave a sour taste.

If I was a top player earning loads I would be like Yorkey (front page of the paper ever week sleeping with loads of famous women haha).

If I was a bit shit and robbing a living, I would maybe keep it toned down a bit, maybe haha
 

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You must have a weird job. I know in my company if we choose to display where we work on social media, we are therefore accepting that we are representing the company and will face consequences if we act like bell ends on said social media.
No you wouldn't. I take it your company loses a lot of lawsuits.
 

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I don't care what he does off the pitch, but I also don't want to see or hear about what he does off the pitch. And I especially don't want fans of opposing teams knowing or seeing what kind of twats are on our team.

Bottom line is that Lingard is shit on the field, and if this can serve as ammunition to get rid of the miserable waste of space the better.
 

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It's not that he is having fun that is the problem, but him posting it on social media and thinking it's cool in the way that he did reflects a lack of judgment on his part.

It reflects a lack of maturity.

It reflects a lack of self control.

All key qualities of a manchester united player if you want to do well.

Why bother you say?
Well, his lack of judgment, maturity, and self control will permeate into his game on the pitch and that is why the club/Ole should pull him aside and have a chat to him privately.

Kevin de Bruyne, David Silva, Kane, Eriksen, Aguero will never do this and they all have social media too.

Lingard needs a massive reality check.
 

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I read some of the comments on twitter that it was a private feed to his friends on Snapchat. I didn't say it was hacked, but generally it's a private account that he has to approve you in order for you to see that video :)
Someone else said hacked and leaked, you said leaked. I assumed you were both talking about the same thing. Point is, he uploaded it. He made it public. Thats the death of your argument unfortunately.

As to your other point about him not posting this stuff wont make him a better footballer. I think thats true, but an argument could be made that if he was less focused on his brand maybe hed be more focused on improving his football. Thats only ever gong to be an opinion though.
 

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I laughed at his mate humping a pillow.

I wouldn't post it on my social media profile, but live and let live, eh? At the end it's harmless.

He can delete his social media, won't matter if he doesn't perform on the pitch. He does that.. this is no problem
Had Martial or Pogba done this they would be crucified on the spot.

Lingard shows himself as a clown off the pitch (talk about having a bad influence on Rashford), and is at best a mediocre player on it.
 

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I assume it is United putting out 'AWB should be done in 48 hours', which is definitely positive news worthy of clinging onto. Aside from that there haven't been many crumbs of comfort, which I understand has the potential to worry and frustrate United fans in what feels very much like a make or break summer.

The thing is I genuinely don't know to what extent the club should be held responsible for the combination of no news, bad news and the latest on JLingz making the majority of our column inches at present, and until I have a better idea on that I'm not going to let myself get too down on our summer so far.
Of course it is, no denying that and that is exactly what I am vexed about. If you dont have the means or intention to buy or sell players then dont do it. Why go through the circus!

Getting back to topic, if ole wants to warn a player the go ahead and just do it! why does it have to be paraded over social media that he is 'going to' warn someone. it's just immature and puts not just the player but the club into a quite bad light ( not that it is not already)
 

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Let’s all be honest. If Lingard was doing the biz on the pitch we wouldn’t give a feck. The fact that he isn’t is the problem, not the video itself