They needed to make an Egyptian signing seeing as who their new owners are. Clear political move.
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It sounds to me like we want Maguire and Longstaff (Bruno if Pogba leaves, Pepe if Lukaku leaves).
I think we could do with all 4 and keep Pogba, sell Lukaku. And then sell some more deadwood, the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Bailly...
I think we could do with all 4 and keep Pogba, sell Lukaku. And then sell some more deadwood, the likes of Darmian, Rojo, Bailly...
Didn't know that, thanks.
I fear this might be the case but remain slightly optimistic because we don't usually do transfer business on tour. If things don't pick up when we get back to Manchester then we have a right to panic.
His quotes make it sound completely different to me. It seems he is confident he will get his man(men) and is happy to wait a couple of weeks and risk them missing pre-season rather than signing an inferior quality player right now.
I agree it smacks of a smokescreen to me at this stage.
The longer it goes on with this drip-feed of bids under the asking price bids and bids being prepared, the more it seems to me that Ogden's 100m budget wasn't that far off.
According to transfermkt the net spend over the since previous 7 seasons (since Fergies last one) has been £97m on average.
It seems to me that no one else will come in ,without significant outgoings (unless they can get Longstaff for £25 -30m) and that the Lukaku money is ear-marked to fund Maguire's transfer.
As others have said it seems like the same pattern as last year: get a couple of transfers done early and then lots of talk, lots of gossip, clubs bracing themselves for a bid but you know we tried but the price was too high, or there's no value in the market.
I hope I'm wrong but I think there's a very strong chance no one else comes in without significant sales.
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The most boring saga of all time
'I believe in these players.'
As expected, just over a week before the window closes.
Remember him saying many of these players won't be here next season?
As expected, just over a week before the window closes.
Remember him saying many of these players won't be here next season?
Maguire and that is that. Midfielder and right winger- no chance.
Ed had chat with him after that i guess.
I'm happy with our transfer business and I'm quite content if this is the squad we're going with for the duration of the campaign.
There's still alot of unfulfilled potential in alot of our players who will hopefully continue to adapt and develop under Ole's leadership.
There's still alot of unfulfilled potential in alot of our players who will hopefully continue to adapt and develop under Ole's leadership.
He said some of these players wont be here and since Valencia and Herrera aren't he was right.
Here's the full quote directly from the club website.
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"The fans have probably seen the last of some of these players."
"I will be a success here and there's some players who won't be a part of that success".
"Everyone is getting a chance in pre-season"
"I believe in these players".
Ladies and gentlemen - our Yes Man. Our David Moyes 2.0.
I have to begrudgingly congratulate Woodward and the owners here, as much as I hate them. They have once again managed to con and manipulate an entire fanbase of a supposedly huge football club! I have to at least begrudgingly respect how sly and devious they are in pulling the wool over the eyes of a huge portion of our fans.
They are damn good at what they do. Credit where it's due.
Welcome to another season of mediocrity, then, mate.
This squad is finishijng no higher than 6th. Again. Probably lower actually.
There is absolutely zero credit for Herrera not being here. We wanted him to stay but he is gone, due to a delay in offering a Contract.
Everyone knew Valencia would be gone long before Ole's quote in April.
All other players are still here. "The fans have probably seen the last of some of these players." Probably not, I say.
How is this our fault? Just pay the money if you want him.We're only asking for £5.4M for Darmian according to the Telegraph. I would be very surprised if he's still here at the end of the window.
Our sell on clause is apparently inflating Zaha's price.
I kinda don't care anough to be mad anymore, all I can do is laugh at all the 'survival of the fittest/nowhere to hide' bs
Glad you are, wish I was. I doubt we see much improvement personally bar fitness and once the going gets tough the youth will not get a sniff.
Loved to be proved wrong but I'm expecting another unsuccessful scrap for 4th place.
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I have a feeling that our only two outgoings will be Darmian and Rojo, yeah.
I can see us finally folding and accepting less than £10m for each of them to get shot of them this summer.
Also, in that quote he doesn't specify when people are getting sold/leaving. It seems he's talking long term more than anything. And there's little he can do with the prices qouted for some of our fringe players. Woodward (or whoever put price tags on our players) seem to think they can sell players who haven't played in almost a year for a lot more than they're actually worth right now.
That may be so but that doesn't mean that what he said was wrong. It simply got people's hopes up that what he meant was there'd be this great culling but in reality that's not what he said. He's always been very up front about how there wouldn't be wholesale changes to the squad and that there is no quick fix and that it's a long term project.
Fixed that for you, mate. That's our level with this current squad. Not top 4.
Palace should have paid more upfront if they didn't want to share the profits later. Players should be aware of signing on to these kind of deals as it results in the selling club digging their heels in as they have less incentive to sell.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good clear out story. Ole promised he would singlehandedly force someone to buy Rojo.
Yeah we are a bit skint aren't we or at least Ed's not getting enough funds.
These two seem to get it.
Yeah I mean, I get that part, but that's not us "scuppering the deal". We put that clause in 4 years ago.
This as well. This will not make players want to come to them if they can't progress.
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Saying something that results in egg on your face as he clearly did isn't the cause of the comments, come on mate, you know that. I'm not talking about an episode or podcast on a YouTube channel, I'm talking about the average Joe. I'd rather discuss and debate actual topics rather than everytime a toilet blocks just seeing 20 posts about its Ed's fault. It isn't productive.
It's a simple comparison for me even when we allow both Gill and Woodward some benefit of the doubt:
I don't recall Gill ever whipping his d*ck out and proclaiming he could best all the other clubs in the transfer market.
When you say things like THAT, AND THEN go on to have mishaps in the market, you completely deserve every
Also, you've clearly missed all the outrage on Judge. One of the big United podcasts or YouTube channels covered his embarrassing negotiations in depth. And then there was a torrential downpour of disgust.
Gill also made comments about our ability in the market, that we had money and can use it, made derogatory comments about the fan protests about the Glazer ownership and insisted Ronaldo wouldn't be sold, only to then do so.
I don't care about Woodward, I don't even want to argue on his behalf and if he were replaced tomorrow I wouldn't care. But its boring to read comment after comment just perpetuating this lazy agenda that he is the absolute single point of failure.
Cheers pal, it's nice not to have a snarky response, appreciate it.
Zaha, Tierney and Cellabos would be a very good summer for Arsenal
What a bizarre take.
You do realise that the manager isn't actually involved in the buying or selling of players? If the board won't release enough money for one of his targets he isn't going to come out and create a story in the papers to make some fans feel better about the situation. In my view Jose's comments last pre-season were step 1 of his burn-the-house-down-and-still-get-paid exit strategy.
When Ole said some players won't be here he wasnt wrong as there always outgoings every window.
However, that, to me, was a message to the team after a poor end of the season i.e. if you want to be here I need more effort.
He's obviously gonna say he's happy and has confidence in the players cos that's good management. Players dont play well if they know they don't have the confidence of the manager and regardless of how the window goes he's going to have to work with what he's got.
His job is to keep that squad happy and motivated and I don't see how anyone can think that public comments to that end are a bad thing.
Agreed we dont need to get caught up in a big back and forth. My contention is that in the business world, after prolonged failure you do have to look to the top. And having blamed players and manager after manager for six years it's about time the CEO is accountable!
And the thing is, Ed has so many clear strikes to his name. Even if he didn't it would be wise to make some change up top - whether another CEO or dof.
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