You're living in the market of 2005 if you think theyll go for 40m.
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Most of these players weren't attainable to us.
Fair point. Some are saying that Lindelof doesn’t have enough pace.
I agree that he’s in the top 5 in the PL.
And we'd be able to sign all these CBs for half of what we paid Maguire? That's the point not name CBs that are better.
Maguire cost us £14m and Hull have a 15% sell on
No, sorry, missed the bit about “half the price.” Agree. I think some of those would be available for 60m though.
This situation isn't completely comparable to Van Dijk. Van Dijk's been highly rated for a long time and has always had the physical attributes to be as dominant as he is.
That's not to say this is a bad transfer, Maguire is missing pace and agility in comparison to Van Dijk but arguably is equal on the ball, in the air and in his reading of the game.
That's not to say this is a bad transfer, Maguire is missing pace and agility in comparison to Van Dijk but arguably is equal on the ball, in the air and in his reading of the game.
Which ones from your last would be available for 60m, who would actually want to join us?
Does anyone remember when we played Hull like 3 times in 10 days a few years ago?
I'm not sure that he played all 3 of those games, but I remember him absolutely bossing it at the time. He was passing it out from the back and bringing it into midfield like it was nothing. I was blown away by him. When he joined Leicester I strongly felt that he was above a 'stepping stone' move like that. And he was.
I honestly believe that he is a shade below world class, and he can become that here. Second to VVD in the Premier league. No one else is better. This signing does have the potential to single handedly transform us. I also think he's captain material.
I'm not sure that he played all 3 of those games, but I remember him absolutely bossing it at the time. He was passing it out from the back and bringing it into midfield like it was nothing. I was blown away by him. When he joined Leicester I strongly felt that he was above a 'stepping stone' move like that. And he was.
I honestly believe that he is a shade below world class, and he can become that here. Second to VVD in the Premier league. No one else is better. This signing does have the potential to single handedly transform us. I also think he's captain material.
None of these players aside from maybe Ramos would have been half the price of Maguire.
Homegrown quota?
Adaptibility I'd say. He is use to the culture and the lifestyle, and the league. Should count for something, even if it's not much.
Always used to hear the story when teams buy foreign players of needing to "adapt" or adjust to the new life in a new city, new language also. No need for Maguire to go through all that.
Do read the posts after that one.
You have every right to be giddy, you got your man and price don’t really matter. Still, I remember I also got ridiculed when I said Lukaku was going to be a bust. It’s only normal you’re happy after such a signing, and I do think it’s a good transfer albeit at an absurd price.
Fee's crazy, player is not a world class talent, there is still much work to do on our squad and playing style.
All that being said I'm very happy with this, welcome aboard Harry Maguire.
All that being said I'm very happy with this, welcome aboard Harry Maguire.
Strange list. From them:
- play for close rivals so not for sale to us: VVD , Laporte
- just joined other clubs: De Ligt
- injury prone as shite so not needed even for free: Umtiti
- over 45 years old (or thereabouts): Ramos, Chielinni, Bonucci, Gimenez
What do we have left? Right, only TWO players - Varane and Koulibaly. Each of them would have cost us MUCH more than Maguire (with Varane likely not attainable in principle)
Marquinhos plays as a DM since a while now, strange you mention him. Bonucci's current form - definitely not. Umtiti has barely played recently and seems to be out of favour at Barca.
Undoubtedly better:
VVD
Koulibaly
Laporte
Chiellini
De Ligt (based on this season)
Pique
If Varane recaptures his earlier form, I would include him too.
Don't really agree with the rest but that's personal opinion.
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why the need to say it in euros!And what makes you quite sure... I can understand if you don't think so... But you seem certain, sure that he won't reach vvd level. Strange. Haven't had a chance to show you what he can do. Sure he could go either way, and that's why we will never know until it happens...
As many have mentioned in this thread already, what a giant leap we've made in terms of the previous back four to the one, that we're going to be able to put out going into the new season, my gawd. Giddy all over...
How does that works? I’ve heard it but dont really know how it works
Go and have an early supper and we might sign Dybala by the time you get back.
That's what the market has come to. The issue was only viable option we had were Koulabaly who would have cost 100+m and Ruben Dias, who is a bit unproven and also would have 60+m. Right now we needed an experience CB who can improve defense straight away and Maguire fills that blank. I don't think he might have a VVD impact but never say never. One thing for sure he will improve our defense.
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Sure but that would apply to any settled player in the premier league, not necessarily english but I see your point.
Yeah agree with all of that.
I predict he'll become a cult hero for you guys.
Of course everyone mentions the price tag but if you actually scour world football for another centre back that ticked every single box your needs required:
Home grown
Leader
Strong
Comfortable with ball
PL experienced
Left-sided
He was worth paying for.
Of course everyone mentions the price tag but if you actually scour world football for another centre back that ticked every single box your needs required:
Home grown
Leader
Strong
Comfortable with ball
PL experienced
Left-sided
He was worth paying for.
Captain?
Nope. De Gea should get it. If Pogba signs a new contract then he is in contention too.
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I think McGuire still has abit more development to go. No doubt the motivation playing for Manchester United, with better players and with better training and tactics is worth a few extra % points.
We saw the same in our defence over the years with the likes of Bruce, Parker, Stam, Vidic, Evra. Hoping he can join this calibre.
If he can make good connections with his passing circle, can take the lead in defensive organising and contribute aerially in defence, he dramatically improves the way we play.
There maybe better versions of himself but none were available or were too old.
Really happy with this signing. Can see him becoming captain at some point too.
We saw the same in our defence over the years with the likes of Bruce, Parker, Stam, Vidic, Evra. Hoping he can join this calibre.
If he can make good connections with his passing circle, can take the lead in defensive organising and contribute aerially in defence, he dramatically improves the way we play.
There maybe better versions of himself but none were available or were too old.
Really happy with this signing. Can see him becoming captain at some point too.
But De Gea is neither vocal nor commanding, or inspirational for that matter. Shambolic choice.
I agree. I think he's worth it.
Don't know if its changed much now but when registering squads for the league or european competitions, you need a certain amount of howngrown players who have trained at the club for 3-5 years, including academy. This is to prevent rich clubs from signing a whole team of foreign imports while ignoring domestic talent, and is why City snap up the likes of Barry and Delph, and going all out for Sterling and Stones.
The whiners should stop their fecking complaining for once and a just be happy. He’ll be a rock for us and give the backline incredible stability.
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Not remotely similar players.
One of them has won the Premier League
Ohhhh hark at you
Calm down petal, ive every right to offer my opinion and pull somebody up whos using fergie as a point, when hes totally wrong, chill thyself
Maguire is a great signing but Leicester got a fantastic deal here, £80M. though I think we will also be happy with it.
Maguire wasn’t there yet when Leicester won the PL mateOne of them has won the Premier League
Oh thanks, must be a new rule I remember not so long ago an Arsenal team starting in the UCL without a single english player in the starting XI.
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