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Paulo Dybala
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Means if juve get the 65m from spurs and 30m from city they can buy Lukaku. We can grab Mandzukic as part of the Lukaku deal and we can buy Erikson from Spurs. Would be a good result for all parties, Erikson is superior to Dybala so works for us.
Depends.
If I’m a young developing player I’m 100% choosing Spurs over United every day.
Dybala is an odd case though.
I'm really getting tired of this new stadium shite. He somehow manages to include it his every other post.
For feck sake.With all your success and trophies the obvious choice is Spurs. I mean United have been wank since SAF retired but somehow we’ve won more in the past 5 years than you have in 50.
Mad innit
Where are you getting your silly 600k from?
Italian wages are quoted after tax. There's many reports of Dybala earning 7-7.5 million (which is after tax). Some report he's on 5 million after tax.
According to the reports of this transfer it was said Dybala was wanting an increase in wages from about 7 million after tax to about 10 million to play for United, which is 18 million a year.
Please use google search for Dybala's wages. Type in Juve's wage bill and remember the prices you see are after tax.
For Dybala's alleged United wages you can go through this thread for all the 18 million a year pre tax reports. Was never said to be 600k gross but all we have is so called reports from the negotiations.
Bale is on 600k pre tax. Dybala is wanting about 350k pre tax.
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I feel like it's expecting random players to be as excited by our new stadium as we fans are.
I'm sure they all go in and think 'yeah, this is nice' but like .. that's it. On a list of players priorities 'nice modern stadium' is probably pretty low down.
And Eriksen is more needed than a Dybala type player too.
I don't get your point.
I've said if we weren't asking for image rights then (a) any legal dispute over his image rights would not involve Spurs; and (b) his wage demands would be less than otherwise.
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This is why we would have walked out - when 3rd parties are involved (image right owners) - they have to be included or more likely purchased out in order for the buying club to get best control of the rights.
Basically a deal needs to be done with these people as well - this should be resolved by Dybalas camp but of course when they see that their asset is going to be involved with a high value transfer they of course want to be highly numerated as well.....so not just his agent but the image rights people want a fee as well - starts to get very messy quickly
Therefore - it’s All aboard - the gravy train....
So let's see what needs to be done:
Wages in excess of £300k a week
Agents fee of apparently €15m
Sorting of image rights
On top of a €70m fee
Hence why I'm pretty sure it wont come off. Spurs will get Coutinho and be pretty happy with it I bet
Feeling doubtful that this will actually happen.
Galston, the resident spuds/closet man utd fan since he got rejected from the underbelly of spuds forums.
We’ll find out and I’ll admit it if he does sign. Will you admit he didn’t want to sign if he doesn’t?
Ok, try another way. You said earlier he wanted £18m gross, or £350k a week gross. Harry Kane is on £200k a week gross. You really think Spurs are going to pay him 175% of Kane’s wages?
I don't think it's a matter of which club's got the bigger dick here. Dybala doesn't care about the Premier League. He wanted to stay at Juventus, he is being kicked out, now he wants a home to temporarily stay in while he can think of the bigger move to Barca or Madrid.
While it is entirely possible that Dybala can buy into Spurs' project (or ours, if we somehow end up getting him), I think he's gonna need a lot of convincing than a manager freezing him out to start developing feelings for England. Poch might have the answer, perhaps, but our own track record suggests we dodged a bullet so far by not overpaying another South American galactico who didn't want to be here.
While it is entirely possible that Dybala can buy into Spurs' project (or ours, if we somehow end up getting him), I think he's gonna need a lot of convincing than a manager freezing him out to start developing feelings for England. Poch might have the answer, perhaps, but our own track record suggests we dodged a bullet so far by not overpaying another South American galactico who didn't want to be here.
That's what the whole lawsuit is about, his previous agents are suing him for the money and Dybala is liable.
Long story short, good luck to Levy to handle that.
https://www.juvefc.com/dybala-image-rights-hindering-deal/
After that, United did agree wages with Dybala but... that image issues is going to freak every single club Dybala touches.
No top player gives a flying feck about how new or nice the stadium is.
To be fair it's only the usual moron who seems to actually think it matters to potential new signings.
To be fair it's only the usual moron who seems to actually think it matters to potential new signings.
So what are we thinking here?
-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
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-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
Silly season in full swing
Is it so hard to accept the reality of his image issues is the real problem and that he agreed wages with United already? Wow, what's so hard to comprehend here?
I would be shocked if Dybala wants to join Spurs.So what are we thinking here?
-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
Silly season in full swing
He can join a tin pot club if he wants.
So what are we thinking here?
-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
Silly season in full swing
maybe Levy taking cue from Ed's book and trying to show to fans that we tried for the best names but our best wasnt best enough for them 
That wasn't my point to you. I don't care if Spurs can only pay him one cheese ball a week.
You said 600k.
For the record no I don't think Spurs are going to pay Dybala 350k a week gross or even 300k. Probably looking at a similar wage to what he's getting at Juve at best.
I’m sorry but reading you lot posting xyz figures and placing so much emphasis on your arguments is pointless.
You don’t know the full picture of the digits. None of us do. Never understand why people discuss money in this much depth in football like it’s all black and white.
You don’t know the full picture of the digits. None of us do. Never understand why people discuss money in this much depth in football like it’s all black and white.
He won't. It's just a Juve tactic to get Woody to pay the man.
Well, any club certainly will require that they can post pictures of the player on the club website, or in the club shop to sell shirts etc, because anything less would be absurd
But the range and uses of image rights for a club doesn't have to extend much beyond this, with the player (or whoever) keeping the vast bulk of rights, if that's what the signing club are content with.Would spurs want dybala and Coutinho, or one or the other?
Again, good luck. Those 3rd party image owners are practically illegal in Europe for a reason. Levy will learn a new thing this time, might be a good experience.Well, any club certainly will require that they can post pictures of the player on the club website, or in the club shop to sell shirts etc, because anything less would be absurd
When you add in the transfer fee, plus agent fee, plus loss of image rights you are looking at a cost of a lot more than £350k a week.
You're missing the point. If he doesn't own his own rights then he can't give the club permission to use his rights at all. End of story.Well, any club certainly will require that they can post pictures of the player on the club website, or in the club shop to sell shirts etc, because anything less would be absurd
The third party who own his rights would need to grant that permission, and the very reason they acquired them was to charge for that privilege.
I'm not familiar with his situation, but if the stories I've read are accurate and he does in fact not own the rights at all then he's got a significant problem.
It’s a small step up.
Funny part is Glaston actually believes it would be a step up from Juventus to Tottenham.
With the whole image rights thing, correct me if I wrong wasn't there a massive issue over just this sort of thing, if I remember correctly in relation to Tevez when we initially signed him, 3rd party ownership etc... and wasn't it outlawed or at least frowned upon by Fifa
But that’s not really what I’d be concerned with in my younger years. Somewhere stable with a proven track record of improving young players and a manager also known for playing and developing youth would 100% sway me towards Spurs.
Plus Tottenham have much more of an obligation towards giving playing time and developing their investments. United can afford to bench 600k a week Sanchez and fool around on Martial year after year.
Tottenham has been a very stable project that has a proven track record. United seem to change their approach every 6 months. You’ve genuinely got one of the most volatile clubs structurally at the moment.
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