Lemansky
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Depends.Ahhh yes the legendary Spurs with their epic season of reaching the CL final. One for the history books that. We might be shit but no one would choose Spurs over Utd and deep down you know that too.
I'm really getting tired of this new stadium shite. He somehow manages to include it his every other post.Your other reasons make sense (although ultimately we will just not pay enough for these kind of players) but I really think you overestimate how much playing in a cool stadium means to a player. I don't think it'll have much influence over a player's decision at all.
"Okay, Paulo, I hear you, you want £600k a week, but wait just one moment, there's something I want you to see.
What's say we pay you £250k but you get to play half your matches here .... *spins laptop around with screensaver of an aerial view of Spurs stadium*."
Depends.
If I’m a young developing player I’m 100% choosing Spurs over United every day.
Dybala is an odd case though.
Where are you getting your figures from. Italian wages are usually quoted net of tax.
I'm really getting tired of this new stadium shite. He somehow manages to include it his every other post.
And Eriksen is more needed than a Dybala type player too.Means if juve get the 65m from spurs and 30m from city they can buy Lukaku. We can grab Mandzukic as part of the Lukaku deal and we can buy Erikson from Spurs. Would be a good result for all parties, Erikson is superior to Dybala so works for us.
You are not going to be paying him £600k a week AND let him keep his image rights ffs.
"Okay, Paulo, I hear you, you want £600k a week, but wait just one moment, there's something I want you to see.
What's say we pay you £250k but you get to play half your matches here .... *spins laptop around with screensaver of an aerial view of Spurs stadium*."
Every player's contract permits the club certain use of his image, regardless of whether specific fees are involved for that use.
If he doesn't own his own image rights he can't give that permission.
I don't get your point.
I've said if we weren't asking for image rights then (a) any legal dispute over his image rights would not involve Spurs; and (b) his wage demands would be less than otherwise.
We’ll find out and I’ll admit it if he does sign. Will you admit he didn’t want to sign if he doesn’t?Look, is it so hard to accept that Dybala doesn't fancy playing in the Europa League for a team that's in transition under a novice manager?
And equally, the issue of wages aside for the moment, is it really so hard to believe that - Dybala just might fancy moving to London, from a club that doesn't want him, to join an in-demand Argentinian manager and three other Argentinian players, to play in the CL for a top 4 club in a fantastic new stadium?
Ok, try another way. You said earlier he wanted £18m gross, or £350k a week gross. Harry Kane is on £200k a week gross. You really think Spurs are going to pay him 175% of Kane’s wages?Where are you getting your silly 600k from?
Italian wages are quoted after tax. There's many reports of Dybala earning 7-7.5 million (which is after tax). Some report he's on 5 million after tax.
That's what the whole lawsuit is about, his previous agents are suing him for the money and Dybala is liable.As far as I can see, the article doesn't say that a 3rd party own them. It says that they did own them from 2016-17, and that now Juve own "only some portion". Presumably Dybala owns the rest?
Is it so hard to accept the reality of his image issues is the real problem and that he agreed wages with United already? Wow, what's so hard to comprehend here?Look, is it so hard to accept that Dybala doesn't fancy playing in the Europa League for a team that's in transition under a novice manager?
And equally, the issue of wages aside for the moment, is it really so hard to believe that - Dybala just might fancy moving to London, from a club that doesn't want him, to join an in-demand Argentinian manager and three other Argentinian players, to play in the CL for a top 4 club in a fantastic new stadium?
So what are we thinking here?
-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
Silly season in full swing
So what are we thinking here?
-Spurs buy Dybala for £60m.
-Juve buy Lukaku for £60m plus Mandzukic
-United buy Eriksen for £60m
-We all get done for money laundering.
Silly season in full swing
"Okay, Paulo, I hear you, you want £600k a week, but wait just one moment, there's something I want you to see.
What's say we pay you £250k but you get to play half your matches here .... *spins laptop around with screensaver of an aerial view of Spurs stadium*."
Ok, try another way. You said earlier he wanted £18m gross, or £350k a week gross. Harry Kane is on £200k a week gross. You really think Spurs are going to pay him 175% of Kane’s wages?
He won't. It's just a Juve tactic to get Woody to pay the man.I would be shocked if Dybala wants to join Spurs.
Every player's contract permits the club certain use of his image, regardless of whether specific fees are involved for that use.
If he doesn't own his own image rights he can't give that permission.
Again, good luck. Those 3rd party image owners are practically illegal in Europe for a reason. Levy will learn a new thing this time, might be a good experience.Well, any club certainly will require that they can post pictures of the player on the club website, or in the club shop to sell shirts etc, because anything less would be absurd But the range and uses of image rights for a club doesn't have to extend much beyond this, with the player (or whoever) keeping the vast bulk of rights, if that's what the signing club are content with.
When you add in the transfer fee, plus agent fee, plus loss of image rights you are looking at a cost of a lot more than £350k a week.That wasn't my point to you. I don't care if Spurs can only pay him one cheese ball a week.
You said 600k.
For the record no I don't think Spurs are going to pay Dybala 350k a week gross or even 300k. Probably looking at a similar wage to what he's getting at Juve at best.
Well, any club certainly will require that they can post pictures of the player on the club website, or in the club shop to sell shirts etc, because anything less would be absurd But the range and uses of image rights for a club doesn't have to extend much beyond this, with the player (or whoever) keeping the vast bulk of rights, if that's what the signing club are content with.
I would be shocked if Dybala wants to join Spurs.
It’s a small step up.
But that’s not really what I’d be concerned with in my younger years. Somewhere stable with a proven track record of improving young players and a manager also known for playing and developing youth would 100% sway me towards Spurs.Depends.
If I’m a young developing player I’m 100% choosing Spurs over United every day.
Dybala is an odd case though.