Sure but that's were we're inspiring to be. Instead we keep on selling/letting players go, we're refusing to replace them and we celebrate every departure we're making. How silly is that?
Alexis offered to Roma
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After tax he is, gross is a mil
I'm not joking and no, I can't understand that.
If you want someone to leave that means he has no value, paying 1% of the wages to a non-value adding player is poor business. Therefore, a loan or permanent move will benefit United.
That is under the assumption that Sanchez has no value to the team. I don't necessarily believe that is true but it is pretty darn close to 0. I bet the players hate him, I hate colleagues that earn way more than me despite providing a fraction of the benefit to the employer. He also seems like an outcast that does more damage than good to the atmosphere and morale.
I would kinda prefer to keep him as backup for Rashford (though I guess Martial is the first option) but the problem I see is that he will probably be a stroppy so and so if not getting games... and ludicrously expensive of course. Also there is a chance that if played regularly he could get back into form. Doing that somewhere else might be best in all honesty. If he goes on loan would want to be able to recall him in January if needed.
This guy extremely reliant?
There's been 100's of rumours surely he must be to have 4 pages full.
There's been 100's of rumours surely he must be to have 4 pages full.
Except he hasn't. He was dropped and barely around the squad under Ole.
We're not aspiring to be title contenders anymore, it's high time people realised that. Top 4 yes because we want the pot of gold CL qualification gives us but actually going for the league? Nah.
We're gonna be the 2020's late Wenger Arsenal at best.
How would we be relying on them? In no way do we rely on Sanchez as it is, hes not among the top 6 options for either a front 3 in either a 433 or a 4231, and its debatable if he would be the pick after them. He's wasted wages, and having him around does more harm then good, with the mentality that he would have and lack of use while being the highest paid player. It's just bad for both training levels and morale to keep him.
Seems strange to send him somewhere and pay a significant amount of his wages for them. Might as well just keep him as in the new system Sanchez can play in numerous positions and is decent at pressing. Hopefully he can pull his crap together and he’ll- out but if it’s a case of still paying 200k a week for him whilst he is somewhere else you would think he’d be better to keep a hold of unless someone is going to pick up the majority of his wages.
Because he was always fake injured and just not arsed to play football. Great influence to have around the squad right? He's looked so far past it for ages, people who hold out hope for him are living some sort of dream. I'd be delighted if we were ruthless with him and got rid.
Sounds a good deal to me. He's already way behind with no pre-season. Let's see if he can get his mojo back without the pressure and scrutiny. Who knows he may do well enough for someone to take him off our hands.
Anyone know if Roma has any midfielders we can get on loan? Or is that not permitted?
Anyone know if Roma has any midfielders we can get on loan? Or is that not permitted?
Don’t see the point in him going when we can’t bring anyone in.
He was injured quite often plus I wouldn’t take Ole as someone to have an unfounded dislike for a player. He must not have been great in training when he was fit
Very indifferent to this.
He played enough after he joined, JM shafted both Rashford and Martial on the right, their form dropped while Sanchez produced feck all on the left. With his wages, he is one of biggest mistakes this club ever made (so far).
Look i get it, from someone who said at the time that Martial can feck off and Sanchez is a future, i wouldnt expect nothing less. I personally dont even mind Sanchez that much, my biggest disappointment is that his "buzz" died when he joined, that his work ethic i really liked never rubbed of others, he just became a leech just like others.
The only reason why we would be doing this, would be because there is no hope of turning him around. And he is just stinking the place out. You could imagine him with the bottom lip hanging out whilst stuffing 350k into his pockets every week. Not the sort of thing we need to motivate young players.
because of lack of form.
Loaning Sanchez without replacing him won't make our aim to be top 4 any easier, quite the contrary. All for what? To spare 4m in salary?
This. We need a settled squad whether or not their short on quality. Just need to start somewhere.
I personally don't think he's happy to play a secondary role regardless of how much he's earning. It's just disruptive.
To make our attack even shorter and "make way" for our young core!
I think people would have been fine with this if we hadn't just sold Lukaku.
He hasn't performed since he's been here anyway so what's the point of keeping him around? I doubt he increases our chances of top 4.
Theres no question mark about it, this is exactly what hes been doing for the past year at least. I'm shocked there are people on here who think otherwise.
Fair enough but Solskjaer pretty much confirmed that Greenwood is a like for like replacement of Lukaku, hence, the prerequisities haven't changed.
Can’t see this ‘news’ anywhere else. Reckon it’s fake myself.
Nah, don't believe this for a second
You can flock him off to Roma in the beginning of the transfer window and bring in a squad member/replacement in his place.
You don't do that after the transfer window is closed and pay 2/3s of his wages.
He's been plagued with injuries but we all know he's a good player. If the club wants him out then fair enough. They should have sold him/loaned him/binned him and brought in a replacement instead. Instead we're developing a habit of letting players go without bothering in bringing in replacements for them.
Are we genuinely the most stupidly run club or what, I want to be positive about the upcoming season but I think the club have given up. With Lukaku gone and Martial and Rashford unlikely to be setting goalscoring records I did believe there may be some hope for a rejuvenated Sanchez to get some form back playing through the middle.
Haven't we done that already with either of Greenwood, Gomes, James or Chong?You can flock him off to Roma in the beginning of the transfer window and bring in a squad member/replacement in his place.
You don't do that after the transfer window is closed and pay 2/3s of his wages.
We have promoted/signed 4 players that can take up the positions that Lukaku and Sanchez could've played.
He'd been getting these little injuries since his last days at Arsenal. Shocked no one noticed this before offering him the ridiculous contract. I think his body is done (at least for the PL).
I agree about replacements to an extent. I think the midfield is the issue. Fix that and we have enough attack minded players to get some goals. Matic really should have been replaced but Lukaku and Sanchez I think is no big loss in my humble opinion.
I truly don't understand how people still have hopes that he'll come good. Get rid by any means necessary and give his minutes to Greenwood/Chong/Gomes/literally anyone else.
I see. Point taken
Not silly. We have a ridiculously bloated squad and it would be a better transfer window than it is now if we got rid of Sanchez, rojo and Darmian with no replacements. Having extra depth for no reason isnt a good thing, especially as that depth would set bad examples in training and play poorly on the pitch with no chance of them being anything different than that. These are players who would need a dramatic injury crises in their position to get any games, and even then would play like shit. So yeah. All for getting rid of all 3. In January and next summer, work on bringing in what we need/the right type of players.
If we do a 4231, our depth chart is:
Rashford Martial Lingard
Chong Greenwood James
Gomes/Mata
4 or those starting in a 4231 and the other 4 straight back ups. Sanchez isnt ahead of any of those 8. For £350k a week. Get him out of the club by whatever means possible and it would be a positive for our training, morale, mentality, whatever else. Hes a waste of space right now and the sooner we act, the better.Chong Greenwood James
Gomes/Mata
I think we'll need more then some runner from the championship and three kids with barely any EPL experience in their belt to replace the likes of Sanchez, Lukaku, Herrera, Fellaini and the lack of a quality RW. Now I would have agreed if we sold a CB or two without replacing them. However our attacking options are already painfully light as they are.
Sanchez is washed up and if his attitude when he wanted out of Arsenal is anything to go by he's probably not a good personality to have around the team.
However I didn't watch Ole's presser as I don't have 10 minutes for more barefaced lies, I got enough from Woody's paper briefing last night, but if he said he's expecting to use Sanchez as a striker, Roma are blowing smoke or it's just one more lie to add to the pile.
However I didn't watch Ole's presser as I don't have 10 minutes for more barefaced lies, I got enough from Woody's paper briefing last night, but if he said he's expecting to use Sanchez as a striker, Roma are blowing smoke or it's just one more lie to add to the pile.
Ffs this club, so they were reluctant to loan bloody rojo to Everton when we have like 7 central defenders with him basically at the back of the line but now they are willing let Sanchez go on loan and pay most of his wages whilst our attacking options is down to the bare bones and even our first team attackers like lingard, rashford and martial have long spells of playing terribly, our back up is mata who is also hit and miss, James who barely has a goal in him even at championship level, gomes and Greenwood who we really dont know how well they can adapt to being relied upon in attack in true competitive premier league level matches as pre-season friendlies and last day of the season matches dont really tell you anything
Also if we did loan Sanchez out whilst paying most of his wages and then signed a free agent like say Sturridge or llorente that wouldn't make any damn sense as will barely save any money on loaning Sanchez out if we then having to pay out wages to a Sturridge or llorente and tbh I would rather keep Sanchez at that point because he still a better player than llorente or a sturridge.
Also if we did loan Sanchez out whilst paying most of his wages and then signed a free agent like say Sturridge or llorente that wouldn't make any damn sense as will barely save any money on loaning Sanchez out if we then having to pay out wages to a Sturridge or llorente and tbh I would rather keep Sanchez at that point because he still a better player than llorente or a sturridge.
All those 4 combined doesn't have 10 games in the premier league.
You don't remove all experienced players to introduce youth. Youth can play, but you need experience during the course of the season.
Yup, to spare 4m in salary.
The Glazers are penny pinching.
In this instance, as extreme as it is, I'd rather they did it because it hopefully shows that Ed and them have learnt a lesson about Galactico signings and stupid wages that'll affect negotiations with everyone else.
Are you saying Sanchez is on 1M a week gross?