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He drove the ball out from defense to the opposition box in stoppage time that resulted in Luke Shaw's shot at goal.
I'm not talking about on the ball.
It's just different game styles. Maguire plays more aggressively. Lindelof plays more safe and calm. Both ways have benefits. Yesterday I think Lindelofs way came out better in that sense, the match before the opposite. we saw how Maguire missed a tackle in a bad situation when he should have stayed calm, he took on headers when he easy could have controlled the ball instead, he went for the same ball as Pogba etc. There are good things with aggressive styles and bad things just as with a more calm style. The outcome can be read in the stats over tackles.
You said he should take more responsibility which is why I said I don't see him shying away from taking one. He was pretty solid yesterday and did his job effectively. I did not see him making many defensive mistakes. Ofcourse there will one or two things but that can be said for any defender. With him and Maguire we look far more assured than anything we were with Smalling, Jones, Bailly or Rojo. SO don't understand the criticism.
I'm not talking about mistakes but we can. Although he did make 1 with the panic clearance, but then sorted it out with the header back to keeper.
12 is as close to 8 as it's to double.
But that's his style and that does not mean he is afraid to take responsibilities or is inviting pressure. He reads the game so well, to the fact even better than Maguire. I saw him on numerous occasion in both the games and even last season where he asks other players to go up the field so that he can make those great long passes. His game is more than just making rash tackles or trying to defend for the sake of it. It is not bad if he prefers to play risk free football while defending but compensates that by taking risk while trying to move the ball forward. That's his style.
Absolutely this. All action defender are more often clumsy aka Bailly , Rojo and Jones. I prefer to see a defender who has things under control than those.
He didnt do that well on the ball either. But I prefer to separate the two things. His style is to let other players take responsibility which is too passive
If that was the case he wouldn't be making that run in the 90th minute which could have lead to a goal scoring chance. He is not an aggressive defender and he doesn't need to be one.
I completely disagree with every single one of your posts about Lindelof. His style of play is not to let others take responsibility at all. He reads the game extremely well, so is generally in the right place at the right time without any need for panic. Smalling and Jones "take responsibility" because they have not read the game and they are not capable of anticipating.
"He reads the game extremely well" is said about every player who doesnt win the ball much
I can only assume that you are Chris Smalling's ghost writer.
To be honest this is rather ridiculous. You can't read the stats and say he had 8 defensive contributions in that match. Every time he marked his man so there was no need for a tackle, interception or header was a contribution. Every time they succeeded with their offside line was a contribution. And so on.
That makes Lindelof 60% better defender. (8/5=1.6)
Smalling didnt win the ball much last season either. "He reads the game extremely well"
And all other CBs do that whilst making more defensive contributions. Its not like Lindelof marks players more often
That makes no sense whatsoever. Very similar to the majority of your posts.
Compare him to his partner.
Go ahead.
If you are going to list a CB's stats, then I think it is better to compare it to that of his teammates. Defenders at bottom clubs are more likely to make more defensive actions I reckon.
CB also have different roles, one will attack and other will sweep. So it's not like they play same role. That's why partnership and how they compliment is more important.
Maldini was a left back that played CB in his late 30's..
Carrick also didn't 'win' the ball much. I recall some absurd comparisons to Keane at the time.
The point is, defenders play with different styles, some aim for tackles, interception, clearances etc. Other solve the situation by marking their man so he doesn't even get it, if he gets it he follows him instead of tackle. There are different styles, but following an attacker well can not be seen in those stats. There are many many more ways to contribute to the defence than the handful you mentioned.
Actually he did in plenty of his best seasons
On the other hand they get different roles. Vvd is one of the best in the world in the air. I expect the tactics are for him to go for more aerials than his CB colleguages, both in defence and offensive play.
Matip won more tackles and interceptions, but VVD bettered him in terms of blocks, aerials and clearances. Among Liverpool's CBs in the last EPL season, Van Dijk was last for tackles, second for Interceptions and blocks, and top for aerials and clearances. Among our five senior CBs last EPL season - with the exception of Rojo who played just over 200 minutes, Lindelof was marginally top for tackles, third best for aerials, and dead last for interceptions, blocks and clearances. This season so far, he's unsuprisingly bettered Maguire in terms of tackles, but has made less interceptions, headers, clearances, blocks and passes too. It's been two games though.
My God man give it up. He's going to be our starter alongside Maguire for the foreseeable future. You might as well focus on the other issues in our squad.
Why are you crying about that question? Just go do some research and respond. If there is another CB out there I'd like to know. I dont think there is but I could be wrong
"I think Richarlison is a very good player and a difficult player to play against but Victor is very fast," Mourinho told MUTV.
One of many things I disagreed with Mourinho about. I'm sorry that you think everything he says must be correct."I think Richarlison is a very good player and a difficult player to play against but Victor is very fast," Mourinho told MUTV.
"He has adapted to play centrally but also to go to the sides because he's got the agility that many of the central defenders don't have. I think it was another very positive performance by Victor."
https://www.google.no/amp/s/www.sky...lof-for-adapting-to-manchester-united-defence
Probably dont suit your agenda, so lets just ignore it then.
And why do they have to make «as few»? Why not just few? Rio Ferdinand did not make many defensive actions but was one of the best ever. Titus Bramble was horrible defender, but had a lot of defensive actions. Bet the same is the case for Sakho (who is also poor).
Point? You (again) make the McNamara-fallacy and end up misundestanding football. You cant understand that he is good because you think the stats are a blueprint. And consequently you refuse to accept it.
They just want to increase the number of their defensive actions
