slyadams
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It puts her in an incredibly difficult situation. She’ll be hoping parliament stop it before she has to get involved.She'll want nothing to do with it if she's got any sense.
I know it will never happen, but I think demographically pro-monarchists are more likely to be Brexiteers and pro-republic more likely to be remainers. If the Queen spoke out against Brexit what would the Brexiteers do? Or would their heads just explode.Is there any chance of the Queen refusing to do this, or Parliament blocking it before it happens?
They'd demand the Queen's head. Brexit is a cult.I know it will never happen, but I think demographically pro-monarchists are more likely to be Brexiteers and pro-republic more likely to be remainers. If the Queen spoke out against Brexit what would the Brexiteers do? Or would their heads just explode.
I dunno the house of saxe- Coburg is historically pretty international in outlookI wonder what the Queen voted. Does she get a vote in the referendum? Surely she must be a brexiteer?
Yep which is why I expect/hope that she tells him to get fecked. It would be in her interest and the future interests of the monarchy to remain entirely neutral.It puts her in an incredibly difficult situation. She’ll be hoping parliament stop it before she has to get involved.
I highly doubt it. Given her extensive experience of the world and likely total ability to see through bullshit, she’d be a remainer.I wonder what the Queen voted. Does she get a vote in the referendum? Surely she must be a brexiteer?
Telling him to get fecked would be just as bad for her though. She’s being asked to either refuse a legitimate request from the government (and it is, no laws are being broken) or to undermine the legitimacy of parliament. It’s a horrible situation to put her in, and could seriously damage the monarchies role.Yep which is why I expect/hope that she tells him to get fecked. It would be in her interest and the future interests of the monarchy to remain entirely neutral.
I don't think she can refuse really - she holds no power at all in reality. Also if she did refuse then that would be a political decision which goes against everything she has done in her lifetime of keeping political neutrality. She will do what she is told.Is there any chance of the Queen refusing to do this, or Parliament blocking it before it happens?
I guess but I just think the obvious answer from her is that the UK is a democracy and matters like this should be dealt with by Parliament. Certainly the lesser of 2 evils from her point of view.Telling him to get fecked would be just as bad for her though. She’s being asked to either refuse a legitimate request from the government (and it is, no laws are being broken) or to undermine the legitimacy of parliament. It’s a horrible situation to put her in, and could seriously damage the monarchies role.
Yep this is his strategy all along. Go to polls saying opposition parties are blocking will of people and Brexit. He knows he can’t get hard Brexit through currently so will risk an election and hope people vote for him. Sadly there are some people who will but not sure he will get the majority he needs. I suspect some pact with the Brexit Party for sure.Parliament will try to stop it
He will say the remoaner MP's are blocking brexit and use that as a reason to call for a general election
Strange timing though as it looked like the merkle 30 day thing was going to buy him enough time with most conservative rebels to ensure he survived a no confidence motion but this might tip the balance
Most probably thoughts the countermove to yesterday's opposition meetings saying they will look to push legistlation forcing a delay to brexit
Semantically that's an interesting post. A prorogation is legitimate if you use "legal" as its definition but if you use one of the other definitions such as justifiable or reasonable then that request isn't legitimate.Telling him to get fecked would be just as bad for her though. She’s being asked to either refuse a legitimate request from the government (and it is, no laws are being broken) or to undermine the legitimacy of parliament. It’s a horrible situation to put her in, and could seriously damage the monarchies role.
That's English for you.Semantically that's an interesting post. A prorogation is legimate if you use "legal" as its definition but if you use one of the other definitions such as justifiable or reasonable then that request isn't legitimate.
Can't see how they win a no confidence vote after this stunt. Even wavering MP's are going to have their spine stiffened by something this dramatic.You can sense that pr**ks Cummings hand in this. Maybe he’s getting them to force a no confidence motion in the hope Tory MPs won’t vote for it and they will win?
Aye. That's what this article in The New Statesman seems to be suggesting too...Parliament will try to stop it
He will say the remoaner MP's are blocking brexit and use that as a reason to call for a general election
Strange timing though as it looked like the merkle 30 day thing was going to buy him enough time with most conservative rebels to ensure he survived a no confidence motion but this might tip the balance
Most probably thoughts the countermove to yesterday's opposition meetings saying they will look to push legistlation forcing a delay to brexit
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The horrible position of **checks notes** fulfilling her constitutional roleTelling him to get fecked would be just as bad for her though. She’s being asked to either refuse a legitimate request from the government (and it is, no laws are being broken) or to undermine the legitimacy of parliament. It’s a horrible situation to put her in, and could seriously damage the monarchies role.
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A bendy banana republic. That's the aim anyway.This is the shit i'd expect in a banana republic.
Yes I think that's the plan.So apparently its a “win-win” for Boris.
If they get it through then hooray No Deal Brexit. If not they fight a “People vs Saboteur Parliament” General Election
It is as always, party before country.Yes I think that's the plan.
If there are any sensible tories left, they will have to act very soon.
Called it a month ago. Although I didn't expect him to have to prorogue to force MP's into action. Still think he has no real desire for a no deal, he just wants to be re-elected on the outrage when it’s stopped.So apparently its a “win-win” for Boris.
If they get it through then hooray No Deal Brexit. If not they fight a “People vs Saboteur Parliament” General Election