TheGame
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Pathetic:
Oh ffs just gerronwivvit. Project Fear. I don't need to look both ways before I cross the street and fall off that cliff edge over there.
Don’t forget this chap, he just wants the empire back:
Guardian said:Chancellor Sajid Javid has rebuffed MPs’ demands for the Treasury to carry out a thorough economic assessment of the government’s Brexit deal, claiming it is “self-evidently in our economic interest”.
Don’t forget this chap, he just wants the empire back:
Don’t forget this chap, he just wants the empire back:
Don’t forget this chap, he just wants the empire back:
Pathetic:
But @Volumiza said Leave voters aren't racists or xenophobes and that's just a lazy argument. Am confused.
I agree a minority from 2016 were duped.To be fair, all racists and all xenophobes who voted in 2016 will certainly have voted Leave, but it does not logically follow that all Leave voters are racist or xenophobic.
I would love to say the reaction of those billions of people when they are told that they have their fun but that The british empire is back.
To be fair, all racists and all xenophobes who voted in 2016 will certainly have voted Leave, but it does not logically follow that all Leave voters are therefore racist or xenophobic.
But @Volumiza said Leave voters aren't wannabe imperialists, racists or xenophobes and that's just a lazy argument. Am confused.
Don't be stupid.I agree some (a minority) from 2016 were duped.
But now and in any future referendum, until they can articulate the benefits of BJ's deal, yes they are.
Shame the thread has descended into made up assumptions..I remember going into my local one day and the BNP using the backroom and was astonished to see a black man sat with them. My point? Just because everyone in the room doesn't hate blacks doesn't mean it's not a racist group, you're the company you keep and at least 90% of leavers are xenophobes with the rest willing partners in crime.
feck em
I said to call ALL leave voters racist or xenophobes is lazy and I stand by it.
Don't be stupid.
Don't be stupid.
Shame the thread has descended into made up assumptions..
Doh.Mr Kipling said:We already know the economic assessment of Brexit @SteveJ - cloudy with a chance of fecked.
My usual response is: if Brexit wasn't the work of the establishment party, there'd be serious talk of arrests for treason.@SteveJ it's staggering isn't it.
So someone like Corbyn is a massive xenophobe just cos he is pro-Brexit?I'd like to know the benefits, beyond satisfying xenophobic urges. I've been asking for several days but am yet to see any. Please do list if you know.
Maybe he means the tv show - The Brittas Empire?
Erm 'was' ... his stated party policy is now for a 2nd referendum.So someone like Corbyn is a massive xenophobe just cos he is pro-Brexit?
Of course the DM has a large portion of bigots among its readers, but reading its comment section has also become a national pastime.If it was fact it wouldn't be an assumption but let's start with the readership of the most xenophobic papers, that's about 4-5 million. The Daily Mail online has about 10 million daily UK readers by itself, not going to tell me it's a made up assumption that they're mostly xenophobes are you?
A health professional I see regularly tells me not to get stressed or het up about things I can't control. It's very difficult when you're watching the daylight robbery of a nation in slow motion.Doh.
*blubs*
My usual response is: if Brexit wasn't the work of the establishment party, there'd be serious talk of arrests for treason.
From the start up to the present time, they've tried to steamroller Brexit past the public and Parliament, mate. They've force-fed us with Brexit for years, until the natural reaction is 'We don't care what happens - we're bored, so just get it over with'. From the beginning, when you consider the histories of its loudest advocates, it should've been obvious to everybody what's going on, and what has inspired this approach.A health professional I see regularly tells me not to get stressed or het up about things I can't control. It's very difficult when you're watching the daylight robbery of a nation in slow motion.
I agree a minority from 2016 were duped.
But now and in any future referendum, until they can articulate the benefits of BJ's deal, yes they are.
This is just silly. The deification of the EU since 2016 by some in response to the equally ludicrous and over-the-top demonisation of it by rabid Brexiteers is very frustrating. Believe it or not, there are plenty of legitimate grievances that a rational person can have with the EU. And on that basis they may choose to not want to be a part of it. And that reasoning can be made devoid of any hint of xenophobia or racism. I voted to Remain and I would again but my views are ambivalent towards the EU. The idea that the only basis on which I could change my mind are xenophobia/racism is bizarre.
Of course the DM has a large portion of bigots among its readers, but reading its comment section has also become a national pastime.
I genuinely don't understand the support for Johnson's bill either but's pointless guessing what percentage of leave voters are bigots. Damn people on facts, not assumptions.
This is just silly. The deification of the EU since 2016 by some in response to the equally ludicrous and over-the-top demonisation of it by rabid Brexiteers is very frustrating. Believe it or not, there are plenty of legitimate grievances that a rational person can have with the EU. And on that basis they may choose to not want to be a part of it. And that reasoning can be made devoid of any hint of xenophobia or racism. I voted to Remain and I would again but my views are ambivalent towards the EU. The idea that the only basis on which I could change my mind are xenophobia/racism is bizarre.
You're talking about 30 million xenophobes though. And by your logic then is Rees-Mogg a Corbyn enabler or vice versa?Unfortunately there isn't a national database on who the xenophobes are so the most likely is a reasonable position. The idea that we dont have at least 10 million xenophobes in this country is the odd position in my view.
But that wasn't really my point, leave voters whatever the reason have thrown their hat into the same cause so they're associated. Rudd may not be part of the ERG but through her own stupidity she's enabling them and therefore deserves equal criticism. Same principle applies to whoever voted leave.
But you don't decapitate yourself because you have a spot on your cheek.
That’s not completely accurate, most of us included ‘stupid’ or ‘ignorant’ as additional options.
The issue with the whole everyone who voted Leave is racist/xenophobe is that it give the idea that Remain is somehow anti racist. Which is just bizarre. Voting to Remain is voting for a giant political body that is more than happy to let brown children drown in the sea and will try its best to crush nations trying for something different. Its quite clearly a racist and bigoted political union but............the British state is no better and most cases is actually worse.Everyone’s a racist baby
The EU has many flaws. You can prefer to not be a part of it without being stupid/ignorant/xenophobic/racist. This haughty attitude does no one any favours.
You're talking about 30 million xenophobes though. And by your logic then is Rees-Mogg a Corbyn enabler or vice versa?
You're trying to paint it as leave v remain as nasty thick racists vs friendly, educated liberals, which is obviously simplistic and not constructive.
Don’t forget this chap, he just wants the empire back:
You're trying to paint it as leave v remain as nasty thick racists vs friendly, educated liberals, which is obviously simplistic and not constructive.