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Super goal and fine curling effort that hit the outside of the post. Got on the ball a lot. 6 shots, 3 key passes. Technique looked better than it has done on plenty of perfect surfaces this season.
 

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Super goal and fine curling effort that hit the outside of the post. Got on the ball a lot. 6 shots, 3 key passes. Technique looked better than it has done on plenty of perfect surfaces this season.
Because of the time he was given because of the quality of the opponent. Are we seriously going to give him credit for the match today. We played against a Sunday league opponent.
 

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Because of the time he was given because of the quality of the opponent. Are we seriously going to give him credit for the match today. We played against a Sunday league opponent.
That's what people were saying about young. They said he looks better than ever and were blaming our tactics of why he's not been immense for us. They aren't aware of the fact that if a player with lesser quality has a lot more time on the ball then this allows room for a better technique to be shown.

The majority of posters on here talk as if they've never kicked a ball and I'm sure they haven't.
 

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Why was he given the armband? Feck me. What does that say about what Ole and Co. feel about him? We're fecked!
 

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People hate on him, and he has beenshit for a while. But given the squad, I still think he should be ahead of Pereira. Hes just a better player. Hes been well below his actual level for a while, but in general I think we'd be better off if he got his confidence back and we had him in instead of Pereira as more of a regular. Nothing amazing, but he should be a solid squad player.
 

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His confidence and form is currently shot to pieces. The performance today will hopefully help to fix it. Unless a bunch of non-fans decide to abuse him online relentlessly.
 

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Because of the time he was given because of the quality of the opponent. Are we seriously going to give him credit for the match today. We played against a Sunday league opponent.
Given where he's been the past 18 months or so then yeah, we are giving him credit. He's been crap for a good while and even against a Sunday league opponent would've ordinarily been just as shite but he wasn't today.
 

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Played very well today he’s a good player has some good qualities. Everyone is too harsh on him I think. Hope the goal helps his confidence and we can see more of that celebration
 

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Played very well today he’s a good player has some good qualities. Everyone is too harsh on him I think. Hope the goal helps his confidence and we can see more of that celebration
Too harsh? What do you think is the right response from Manchester United fans towards him and his performances? I actually think the fans have been very patient with him and only since the beginning of this season is he starting to get critism and that started mostly as a reaction to his social media actions.
 

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It's not confidence, it's not form. He continued to be shit after Astana, he's just shite and has always been. Some people can't accept that.
 

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He will go back to shite against quality opponents. He has lost his agility and when pressed his first touch and ball holding goes missing. Even today when attacking he was running into positions where he can’t found due to a opponent being in line. This is his biggest flaw, doesn’t know when to hold run so that passing channels / lines are opened for him. Or can be his way of hiding from passes too.
 

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Scored a goal against shit team, but overall performance was relatively poor
 
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People hate on him, and he has beenshit for a while. But given the squad, I still think he should be ahead of Pereira. Hes just a better player. Hes been well below his actual level for a while, but in general I think we'd be better off if he got his confidence back and we had him in instead of Pereira as more of a regular. Nothing amazing, but he should be a solid squad player.
His form has simply been in the toilet. He is no where near as bad a player as some people insist on claiming. I hope today is a step in a better direction for him. Not another false Dawn like the Astana and City games.
 

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Still loses the ball too easily, his passes to team mates very often puts them in a poor position, and his first touch is very poor, don't get the hype that he was really good, similar with Pereira, thought some his passes were poor, but his work rate was good. I have always thought he was a talented lad, but his decision making is poor sometimes. His last couple of games have been poor on my opinion, so perhaps he is going through a dip in form.
 

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Too harsh? What do you think is the right response from Manchester United fans towards him and his performances? I actually think the fans have been very patient with him and only since the beginning of this season is he starting to get critism and that started mostly as a reaction to his social media actions.
The fans have been far too patient I feel. He should have been sold years ago. One og the worst players in my 33 years I have followed the club.
 

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You're giving him credit for today's match? We literally played against semi-pro's/amateurs and he still looked so bad at times. Took the first touch award from Lukaku it seems. Every ball bounces off his feet :lol:
 

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His confidence and form is currently shot to pieces. The performance today will hopefully help to fix it. Unless a bunch of non-fans decide to abuse him online relentlessly.
It won't, I mean I don't it will. He will hardly play against such poor opponents. No amount of confidence can hide your real quality as a player
 

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It won't, I mean I don't it will. He will hardly play against such poor opponents. No amount of confidence can hide your real quality as a player
He's capable of playing at a higher level than he's currently showing. Given that our squad is paper thin, it makes sense to want the players still here to be at the top of their form.

Manchester United fans can choose not to rate him. They can choose to disagree with the manager for picking him. They can choose to think that Woodward made a mistake by offering him a contract. They can choose to think he's weak for having mental health issues. They can also choose to criticise him for poor performances.

But the directed personal abuse, the use of his name as punchlines in unrelated jokes all over Twitter, the memes and the unflattering videos from supposed United fans... that stuff will dent the psyche of anyone who's lacking in confidence.

He's as human as any other online celebrity or influencer with issues. If you care about the club, you should care about helping Lingard be as good as possible in the shirt rather than knocking him down.

Ganging up on Lingard won't affect our transfer strategy. But it will eventually get back to him and cause him to second guess himself on the pitch. He's obviously very connected to social media and his 0.0012% comment is proof that it's not helping.
 
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People hate on him, and he has beenshit for a while. But given the squad, I still think he should be ahead of Pereira. Hes just a better player. Hes been well below his actual level for a while, but in general I think we'd be better off if he got his confidence back and we had him in instead of Pereira as more of a regular. Nothing amazing, but he should be a solid squad player.
No, I wouldn't agree.

Perreira is shit, slow with his brain and decision making, but at least he is not losing every ball he receives and he is capable of actually controlling the ball and keeping posession if anything.

He also creates decent number chances going by the stats, and is far more influential and physically imposing than Lingard who is easily pushed off the ball by any random player. Perreira isn't great by any means, his passing can be even worse than Lingard's, but just quick check confirms that he is far more involved, he makes ten more passes per game even if he has lesser success, which is a big difference because that pretty much confirms what everyone here says about Lingard - is that he hides in games. He was also involved in 4 goals this season unlike Lingard who is on 0 up until today's game.
 

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Do you guys think that if we "abuse" Mane, Salah, and Firminho online, their confidence and form will be shot, and turn into championship level payer?

This is a major discovery, if it works.
 
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Do you guys think that if we "abuse" Mane, Salah, and Firminho online, their confidence and form will be shot, and turn into championship level payer?

This is a major discovery, if it works.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49712728

Have a read of that.

Mane, Salah, and Firminho won't care what United fans think of them. And their confidence is high enough that it won't affect them. But when you're already low, 10's of thousands of people piling in on you won't help.

The abuse is worse when it's coming from your own team's fans - because they should in theory be supporting you, but instead they're actively undermining you. That distinction is massive. It's the difference between being told to feck off by your longtime childhood crush versus a girl you didn't like anyway. There's a classy way to do it that doesn't ruin the guy's confidence and give him a complex. Especially when you still might need him for at least a few more months.
 

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He's capable of playing at a higher level than he's currently showing. Given that our squad is paper thin, it makes sense to want the players still here to be at the top of their form.

Manchester United fans can choose not to rate him. They can choose to disagree with the manager for picking him. They can choose to think that Woodward made a mistake by offering him a contract. They can choose to think he's weak for having mental health issues. They can also choose to criticise him for poor performances.

But the directed personal abuse, the use of his name as punchlines in unrelated jokes all over Twitter, the memes and the unflattering videos from supposed United fans... that stuff will dent the psyche of anyone who's lacking in confidence.

He's as human as any other online celebrity or influencer with issues. If you care about the club, you should care about helping Lingard be as good as possible in the shirt rather than knocking him down.

Ganging up on Lingard won't affect our transfer strategy. But it will eventually get back to him and cause him to second guess himself on the pitch. He's obviously very connected to social media and his 0.0012% comment is proof that it's not helping.
Just because he's acting like he was mentally 12 it doesn't mean that he's got mental health issues. Don't mix the two.

As for him being bullied and being poor guy reading memes about himself. I've got one simple trick that will improve his confidence and perhaps, just perhaps, start mending the image of a fecking twat that he's created for himself over the years. Switch off your fecking internet, get off social media, stop clowning like a feckhead. Et voila. There are other players as shit in this league that nobody really cares about because they don't act like cnuts. Lingard does exactly that and that's exactly why he's getting the shit he's getting.
 

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You lot are a funny bunch. We are what we are at the moment We're barely got a squad I humbly submit that the best outcome for us at this point is for all of our limited players to perform to the best of their ability as often as possible. Lingard, as unpalatable as it clearly is for some of you lot, was pretty good today. That's a good thing. On to the next one and we'll hope he strings a few passes together again.

There's 2 strands here, the bigger picture, nothing to do with the players, and the day to day. I'm happy with THEM once they're doing the day to day professionally. He did today. Fair play.
 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49712728

Have a read of that.

Mane, Salah, and Firminho won't care what United fans think of them. And their confidence is high enough that it won't affect them. But when you're already low, 10's of thousands of people piling in on you won't help.

The abuse is worse when it's coming from your own team's fans - because they should in theory be supporting you, but instead they're actively undermining you. That distinction is massive. It's the difference between being told to feck off by your longtime childhood crush versus a girl you didn't like anyway. There's a classy way to do it that doesn't ruin the guy's confidence and give him a complex. Especially when you still might need him for at least a few more months.
There should be reasons why people are not satisfied with him. Lot's of our player play as worst as him: Rojo, Jones, Fred (last year), Sanchez. But they don't get much online "abuse".

Maybe he could self inspect, stop doing them, and change for the better.
 

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He gets abuse because he comes across as an absolute prat on social media who thinks he's "made it" or at least he was for a while, whilst putting out absolute dogshit performances for years that fans are paying their hard earned money to watch. Do the people who think he's a good player with good attributes need reminding he hadn't scored a goal or had an assist for a whole year as a number 10.

The guy is utter dogshit, always has been and always will be, people just can't seem to accept it because as always amongst this fanbase, because Jlingz is from the academy, romanticism and other such notions win out over cold hard evidence, the evidence being he should have been sold years ago because he is barely Premier League standard nevermind being a starter for us for years.
 

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He's capable of playing at a higher level than he's currently showing. Given that our squad is paper thin, it makes sense to want the players still here to be at the top of their form.

Manchester United fans can choose not to rate him. They can choose to disagree with the manager for picking him. They can choose to think that Woodward made a mistake by offering him a contract. They can choose to think he's weak for having mental health issues. They can also choose to criticise him for poor performances.

But the directed personal abuse, the use of his name as punchlines in unrelated jokes all over Twitter, the memes and the unflattering videos from supposed United fans... that stuff will dent the psyche of anyone who's lacking in confidence.

He's as human as any other online celebrity or influencer with issues. If you care about the club, you should care about helping Lingard be as good as possible in the shirt rather than knocking him down.

Ganging up on Lingard won't affect our transfer strategy. But it will eventually get back to him and cause him to second guess himself on the pitch. He's obviously very connected to social media and his 0.0012% comment is proof that it's not helping.
Strange to think anyone xan actually disagree with any of this.
 

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He's capable of playing at a higher level than he's currently showing. Given that our squad is paper thin, it makes sense to want the players still here to be at the top of their form.

Manchester United fans can choose not to rate him. They can choose to disagree with the manager for picking him. They can choose to think that Woodward made a mistake by offering him a contract. They can choose to think he's weak for having mental health issues. They can also choose to criticise him for poor performances.

But the directed personal abuse, the use of his name as punchlines in unrelated jokes all over Twitter, the memes and the unflattering videos from supposed United fans... that stuff will dent the psyche of anyone who's lacking in confidence.

He's as human as any other online celebrity or influencer with issues. If you care about the club, you should care about helping Lingard be as good as possible in the shirt rather than knocking him down.

Ganging up on Lingard won't affect our transfer strategy. But it will eventually get back to him and cause him to second guess himself on the pitch. He's obviously very connected to social media and his 0.0012% comment is proof that it's not helping.
It will hurt his confidence if he isn't made of the right stuff or is very concerned by what is said about him online.
Those players rarely achieve their potential because they get affected by these things.
Don't get me wrong, personnal abuse is a no-no but we know it's there guaranteed if your football is poor, better get ready to ignore it than be shaken by it
 

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Was Ole's "wtf, haha, feck off" reaction really after he watched Jesse score a goal? :lol:
 

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Lingard had a purple patch and people believed that's his level but honestly, he is another Cleverley. He will play for a relegation team or a team aspiring to be in the EPL.

Lingard should be grateful for the career he had as he is really shit.
 

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It will hurt his confidence if he isn't made of the right stuff or is very concerned by what is said about him online.
Those players rarely achieve their potential because they get affected by these things.
Don't get me wrong, personnal abuse is a no-no but we know it's there guaranteed if your football is poor, better get ready to ignore it than be shaken by it
Yeh. Even his manager commented his social media activities should be lessened and focus more on football.

"I think [social media] is part of being a Man United player, how you come across. And I think it's important that you do give up yourself in a positive way and it's more football-related.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ball-news/man-utd-news-jesse-lingard-17517624

Or maybe Ole should stop "abusing" Lingard too.
 

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Maybe we should stop 'abusing' Ed, too. His performance has been shot with all these online 'abuses'.
As fans, we should support him, let him do whatever he wants to do.

How about the Glazers? We know they're leeching the Club, and their performance as owners are one of the worst. But they're part of the Club. As fans, can we just stop 'abusing' them? they're human and have feelings too. Support them all the way.
 
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He was good against Tranmere. He's a bottom half premier league player though.

Should move him on if possible, nobody will miss him.
 

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Had a reasonable game today but needs to be presenting that much threat every week. If anyone doesn't think we can upgrade and do better they need to give their head a wobble.
 
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