Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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that's just fan talk. in reality you really wouldn't. no one turns down twice the pay. footballers careers are short, and can be ended at any point. you have your entire life to live, and most likely a family to support.
I really would. You are just projecting when you say nobody turns down twice the pay. I’d much rather a job which makes me the happiest.
 

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I really would. You are just projecting when you say nobody turns down twice the pay. I’d much rather a job which makes me the happiest.
has there ever been any footballer in his prime ever that joined his boyhood club for half the salary offered by someone else?
 

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has there ever been any footballer in his prime ever that joined his boyhood club for half the salary offered by someone else?
Griezmann took a pay cut to join Barca which is in the same ballpark?
 

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I really would. You are just projecting when you say nobody turns down twice the pay. I’d much rather a job which makes me the happiest.
All things equal you go with your favourite team, yes? As if the drop off to join United is that great that you wouldn’t be happy and get paid more for it.
 

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Griezmann took a pay cut to join Barca which is in the same ballpark?
Ighalo too

"'My agent wants to speak to you. United are coming for me, you have to make this happen.'"

Ighalo, his agent and the clubs spent the night negotiating and signing paperwork to get it through before the deadline at 7am Shanghai time.

Meanwhile, other clubs were calling asking Ighalo to sign for them.

"I told my agent 'this is what I want. I want to come here'," added Ighalo.

"He said: 'You're going to get a pay cut to go to United.'

"I said: 'I don't care. Make this deal happen. I want to go to United. I don't care how much is the pay cut, I know that, make it happen.'"
 

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I think I’ll take the evidence of 100% all footballers ever over your hypothetical that happens to also involve you.
Are you trying to argue that I wouldn't chose United?

Or are you talking about Sancho here?
 

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Are you trying to argue that I wouldn't chose United?

Or are you talking about Sancho here?
clearly I’m talking about you. and you’re being disingenuous to think that you would be literally the only footballer ever in their prime to choose your boyhood club over another for half the wages. this is clearly and innately a non objective discussion.
 

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clearly I’m talking about you. and you’re being disingenuous to think that you would be literally the only footballer ever in their prime to choose your boyhood club over another for half the wages. this is clearly and innately a non objective discussion.
Well that's me told about what my choice would be
 

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I'm with Tarrou on this. Plenty of people in real life go for jobs that pay less but make them happier. It's rare in football because the whole business is so money-oriented already, and because the sums in question are so massive. But in Griezmann and Ighalo you've already got two examples of players who took paycuts to go to certain clubs, and I'm sure if we asked the caf we could come up with a whole raft more.

I always find it slightly sad when people don't believe that other people could ever value anything more highly than money.
 

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I'm with Tarrou on this. Plenty of people in real life go for jobs that pay less but make them happier. It's rare in football because the whole business is so money-oriented already, and because the sums in question are so massive. But in Griezmann and Ighalo you've already got two examples of players who took paycuts to go to certain clubs, and I'm sure if we asked the caf we could come up with a whole raft more.

I always find it slightly sad when people don't believe that other people could ever value anything more highly than money.
Yeah it's not unheard of at all. I took a pay-cut myself (more than 3x what I used to earn) a few years ago to do what really I wanted to do in my life. Oghalo is loving life right now I'm sure.
 

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I'm with Tarrou on this. Plenty of people in real life go for jobs that pay less but make them happier. It's rare in football because the whole business is so money-oriented already, and because the sums in question are so massive. But in Griezmann and Ighalo you've already got two examples of players who took paycuts to go to certain clubs, and I'm sure if we asked the caf we could come up with a whole raft more.

I always find it slightly sad when people don't believe that other people could ever value anything more highly than money.
Ighalo is near the end of his career, not in his prime. Not the same.

Griezmann stands to earn more than he did if you take into account bonuses via league and CL wins (plus he’s already rich).

and more to the point you can’t compare a football career to a normal career. Not only is it far shorter but one bad injury and you’re done for life. This is why footballers don’t willingly take half salaries to play for their childhood clubs because of some stupid love. It’s a career to them. Which is why any fan on a message board’s opinion on what they would do in a similar situation means feck all.
 

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I'm with Tarrou on this. Plenty of people in real life go for jobs that pay less but make them happier. It's rare in football because the whole business is so money-oriented already, and because the sums in question are so massive. But in Griezmann and Ighalo you've already got two examples of players who took paycuts to go to certain clubs, and I'm sure if we asked the caf we could come up with a whole raft more.

I always find it slightly sad when people don't believe that other people could ever value anything more highly than money.
You have a good example in Pogba who is settled and came to United because he loves the club, not because of the money. All tough he did negotiate well to get the most money possibly out of it, and he isn't exactly happy either. Well, I guess that's neither here or there, but Sancho wouldn't come here for only one thing. He can pick between any club he wants and Dortmund will probably honour his wish.
 

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Yeah it's not unheard of at all. I took a pay-cut myself (more than 3x what I used to earn) a few years ago to do what really I wanted to do in my life. Oghalo is loving life right now I'm sure.
But did you do this when you're 20 y.o. or as a young professional?
 

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All things equal you go with your favourite team, yes? As if the drop off to join United is that great that you wouldn’t be happy and get paid more for it.
Finally someone gets the point :yawn:
 

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I wasn’t set for life by any stretch. A 100k a week contract would be enough to do that - for me at least.
Yes, but that job is a job you should hold onto barring employer's whim. A player has to make as much money for his family because they won't work as professional footballers past their 30s. His job is something he really wants to do in life, playing professional at the top level. So it's not an exact comparison.
 

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His passing is what is so impressive for me. Not just a speedster, I think for a winger his passing ability is up there with the best I've seen.
Either of those situations where we needed a pullback today, he would get it to Bruno. Just a very productive player in those positions.
 

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His passing is what is so impressive for me. Not just a speedster, I think for a winger his passing ability is up there with the best I've seen.
He's a playmaking wide forward who at 20 years old makes the right decisions which is fantastic to see.
 

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Are you sure? He’s only cost £30m and they got £100m in a oner for Griezmann.

Barcelona had to shop around for a loan to pay Griezmann’s release clause however.
Obviously they recouped a huge amount once they sold Griezmann but it was initially a bank loan.
 

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We all want Sancho, but what if PSG offered Neymar for Pogba? Would you take it, knowing that would kill the Sancho deal?
 

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We all want Sancho, but what if PSG offered Neymar for Pogba? Would you take it, knowing that would kill the Sancho deal?
No. I'd rather Sancho. Neymar is a great player but he is much worse than Pogba when it comes to the drama, and his best position is where Rashford's best is... so nah.
 

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My gut feeling is that we are going to miss out on either him or Grealish this summer, the main reason I feel this is because of the Bellingham stuff picking up again yesterday which suggests we are obviously very keen on him and want to roll out the red carpet.
 

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My gut feeling is that we are going to miss out on either him or Grealish this summer, the main reason I feel this is because of the Bellingham stuff picking up again yesterday which suggests we are obviously very keen on him and want to roll out the red carpet.
Bellingham is a very young talent plying his trade in the Championship. Sancho is one of the world's best wingers. I don't think there's any correlation between the two. Sancho has to be the one we have to go all out for, if any.
 

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My gut feeling is that we are going to miss out on either him or Grealish this summer, the main reason I feel this is because of the Bellingham stuff picking up again yesterday which suggests we are obviously very keen on him and want to roll out the red carpet.
Don't see how potentially signing a young midfielder is going to stop us from signing one of the best players in the world, who plays in a completely different position, a position we desperately need to strengthen in.
 
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