No, it probably would not entirely kill it off, even in theoretically perfect quarantine. There likely will be a few people where the virus can lay relatively dormant in the CNS or something, and then re-emerge later.
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That's pretty significant but what about the kids, who will they stay with whilst their parents are presumably working?
Who's making the test kits, running the electricity system and the water supply, and keeping us fed while the whole world is quarantined?
Probably not, because people would be sharing homes and keeping the virus alive through transmitting it between the occupants over that period of time. This is why quarantine isn’t the inevitable answer if you just send healthy people away to spends lots of time with sick people self isolating.
Some would inevitably give a false negative test on release too.
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Thats why im not sure its real. Itd be all over the news if it was id imagine.
Yeah, well, we'll find out more tomorrow after COBRA meeting.
Pretty deadly.
I work in a Government department where everybody has laptops and can just as easily do our jobs at home and they’re still insistent on working as normal. It kind of sums up our Government.
There'll be a lockdown to slow the spread. But at least a third of the population will eventually get it regardless. At that point, the economy will be too strained to keep everything shut. People who have recovered will begin returning to normal life, and any curfews will be lifted. There'll continue to be advisories for vulnerable people and those who've remained unifected, but they'll have to be managed as a separate group for the sake of the country remaining afloat. The NHS will still be overloaded for a while yet, but they'll have got over the worst of the pandemic in a few months and learned enough to deal more effectively with the remaining cases soon (hopefully).
I reckon the corona virus will continue to be around for another year or two, but the nationwide panic stations will be over by the end of the summer. Unfortunately, I also think we'll lose between 0.5 and 1 million people unless the scientists somehow figure out how to create a vaccine in record time (which is unlikely).
There's no getting around this without ending all pretences of a functioning society and economy. We can't survive without the essentials, but we can't import/produce the essentials without continuing as normal.
It's a balancing act between producing enough to stay afloat and stopping everything to stay uninfected. People will moan on either side of the spectrum, but I think we're more or less doing things right at the moment.
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And yet people like to say people in the government don't work. I always say here that that may be true for the Feds and state govt but not local government. They won't shut down for much of anything.
Yeah, this is the stuff I don't understand. I can see why shutting schools and things is a major decision that needs careful consideration of side effects. But telling anyone who can work from home with minimal disruption to do so seems like such an easy win - fewer social interactions immediately with little down side.
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I feel sorry for US citizens, I really do.
Yeah, most of my company works remotely anyway, but they just announced that anybody who does work out of an office now needs to work from home and they gave us all an allowance whether we are already home workers or not to buy any equipment needed that'll increase productivity and help us out.
Worldwide or in UK?
I mean if that's one of the best case scenarios (without a vaccine), that sounds fecking horrific.
Yes, unfortunately, I think that is a reasonable estimate. Hopefully, it will be better. An estimate of 20% infected with a mortality rate of 0.7% (South Korea) put the number of victims much lower, at 93k. A pessimistic estimate of 60% infected with a mortality rate of 4.3% (expected for Italy) would put it at 1.7 million. Obviously the mortality rate is directly related to the number of infected people (overwhelmed hospitals = higher mortality rate).
Hopefully, with preventive actions made these days, the UK (and the world) would go towards the first scenario, though it will probably be somewhere in between.
What also counts against the UK is our relatively high elderly population and obesity levels.
I don't think we're as healthy a nation as South Korea.
EDIT: https://www.who.int/cardiovascular_diseases/en/cvd_atlas_29_world_data_table.pdf
South Korea is pretty much the GOAT when it comes to heart disease. I bet that has a lot to do with it. Comorbidity with covid-19 and heart disease is high enough to suggest that's one of the major risk factors.
The UK and US don't do anywhere near as well as South Korea on the heart disease. And what success we do have will be down to medication rather than tackling the underlying health conditions which covid-19 would exacerbate.
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In a lot of cases at least one parent will have to take time off work. Which in its own way might also help slow the spread of the disease.
Obviously that's not sustainable indefinitely though, which is one of the reasons these sort of measures have to be timed correctly. Go too early and you've wasted those couple of weeks at a point when infection is still manageable anyway. Go too late and you're dragging workers from essential services at a crucial time.
Sounds like they want make sure they can profit from it as best as possible
University near me is testing staff being at home on Friday. Lecturers and students will still be in as far as I know. Not sure what will happen if it has to shut. Remote lectures?
I wonder what the plans are for the bodies of victims who succumb.
Would have loved this to be around when I was at school. No school for a month and told to self isolate? Playstation & TV all day, what a dream
And government workers. Assert yourselves.
Probably burial/cremation, acording to wishes/customs, but without public funeral ceremony.
Yeah we should just not show up for work. I’m sure you’ve stopped going to work.
holy shit
I have actually, I'm retired.
Aside from that, if it is feasible to work from home then put that forward. Get together, don't you have a union, or at least workplace representatives? If not go to your boss personally and put forward the reasons for doing so, and the advantages. What's stopping you?
The danger of this virus is its adaptability to survive for days in open air and in hosts without incubating. That’s the biggest problem with this. Also it’s contagious without the host being asymponatic.
Canadian?
Getting closer to me now.
A priest in Chorrillos district of Lima (where I live) has tested positive and is in ICU.
A priest in Chorrillos district of Lima (where I live) has tested positive and is in ICU.
Cases in Italy are increasing by about 33% every day and the UK/France/Germany are all following a similar trajectory, albeit a few weeks behind in terms of numbers.
If things continue as they (which they probably won't, to be fair), the UK will possibly reach 45m infected in about 40 days. I think that's the worst case scenario.
If things continue as they (which they probably won't, to be fair), the UK will possibly reach 45m infected in about 40 days. I think that's the worst case scenario.
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King Donald is on..
Can't wait to see all the "So inspiring. Praise GOD for TRUMP. That's MY PRESIDENT!" posts on social media after this riveting speech.
So since the UK has done Brexit, I guess the ban on travel to the US from Europe doesn't apply to them? 
All travel
Just Europe? Not India?
So since the UK has done Brexit, I guess the ban on travel to the US from Europe doesn't apply to them?
Just Europe? Not India?