Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[Jibberjabber]

A league is a league though.
Remember when people reacted with fury at the idea of that 39th game? That's because the whole point of a league is that need everyone to have played everyone else home and away.

Dishing out standings without completing the league isn't really on.
However, health and life are way more important than footballl!

isn't there a point in time when, if a game has to be abandoned the result stands? around 80mins in or so. Or have I made that up?
If that is the case wouldn't there also be a point in the league where a certain amount of games have been played and the league needs to be abandoned, the current standings are declared final?

 

[Adisa]

This is inevitable. Can't even see any resumption until well after the summer.

 

[Toad]

It would work out well for us as long as 5th does indeed get champions league. No Liverpool title, champions league football, you just couldn’t make it up. Although as good as that sounds, the health of the people is the most important thing.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Sean from Enderby a reliable source yeah?

He seems to have inside sources

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

I expect them to announce on Monday that the league is suspended, but perhaps for like 2-3weeks 'and we'll see what happens'. I don't see the season being completed though.

 

[rotherham_red]

It's probably better for us if the games do get suspended. Would like to think that Pogba and/or Rashford will be back fit for when we resume play.

 

[King7Eric]

It would work out well for us as long as 5th does indeed get champions league. No Liverpool title, champions league football, you just couldn’t make it up. Although as good as that sounds, the health of the people is the most important thing.

We won't be 5th if they suspend the league at this moment. They will take into account the last time the teams had played the same number of games. Since every team has played 28 games at least, I think the 29th games for those who have played will be struck off. In that case our last match could be struck off, meaning we would have less points than Sheffield Utd and we would be 6th. They can't take the current positions as final because certain teams have played 1 less game.

Of course this is conjecture on my part but I think its logical. If indeed the league is suspended with these positions as final, then they have to make sure that all teams have played the same amount of games.

 

[D. Mungai]

Without Everton, then the Derby is off...
Looks increasingly likely the season will be called off

 

[dwd]

Of course this is conjecture on my part but I think its logical. If indeed the league is suspended with these positions as final, then they have to make sure that all teams have played the same amount of games.

Yeah this won't happen at all.

 

[SirAF]

I expect them to announce on Monday that the league is suspended, but perhaps for like 2-3weeks 'and we'll see what happens'. I don't see the season being completed though.

Monday? They should be able to announce something like that today. Why does everything in the UK move at a snails pace?

 

[King7Eric]

Yeah this won't happen at all.

What won't happen? The league being suspended or these positions being declared final?

 

[dwd]

What won't happen? The league being suspended or these positions being declared final?

Your rationale for how they would declare final positions. No chance any club accepts that, well apart from maybe 1 or 2.

 

[Judas]

So bizarre seeing Utd fans on here arguing that Liverpool deserve to be awarded a trophy they've not actually won.

 

[UncleBob]

What won't happen? The league being suspended or these positions being declared final?

The latter

 

[NoLogo]

So this is happening, isn't it? Most major leagues have already frozen or canceled their leagues.

The only question that remains is if they will make Liverpool champions by next week or call it an undecided league title because technically speaking they aren't champions yet.

 

[B. Munich]

Post season international friendlies will be scrapped and Euro 2020 postponed to 2021.
That will open a window of ~3-4 months (more or less depending whether pre-season is included or not) to complete all outstanding league games and European fixtures before the new season will start.
I believe that's the best and fairest solution currently. Of course only if the worst of the pandemic is over in a couple of months.

 

[pascell]

I hope all that have got the virus make an speedy recovery, there's more to life than the sport we all love.

What's going to happen with the transfer window? I'm guessing FIFA/UEFA are going to have to come up with a plan to move that also?

 

[shaky]

Seriously - Liverpool must be declared champions. As much as I hate them - they are the champions and deserve to win.

What they deserve is irrelevant. Lots of people are having to deal with stuff they don't deserve due to this outbreak. Lots of sportspeople / teams and people in other walks of life are going to be denied things they were going to achieve. Collateral damage in inevitable. Everything is just going to be cancelled and declared void. All the leagues across Europe will end up doing the same, and it will be applied consistently across the board, otherwise everyone who was "nearly" about to achieve something will have a claim for special dispensation and it will just be a mess. A hard reset is literally the only way sport can move on after this all dies down. If Liverpool want a special "nearly won the league" trophy though, I'm sure we can all get behind that.

 

[SirAF]

So bizarre seeing Utd fans on here arguing that Liverpool deserve to be awarded a trophy they've not actually won.

People trying to appear intellectual and objective.

The objective view would be to cancel and void everything for the sake of health and safety. feck football.

 

[King7Eric]

Your rationale for how they would declare final positions. No chance any club accepts that, well apart from maybe 1 or 2.

I agree that it's extremely unlikely to happen. I was replying to the poster who was saying we'd be declared 5th if they decided to make these positions final. Even if they do that it's impossible to do it with some teams having played a game less.

But anyway I agree it's highly unlikely to happen.

 

[Offside]

There’s no way I think they will declare the league positions as final. The league will either be suspended and resumed at a later date or just a new season will be started with this season incomplete. It doesn’t matter how many points Liverpool are clear at the top it’s simply bad luck, health of the public and players comes first.

 

[cyberman]

I expect them to announce on Monday that the league is suspended, but perhaps for like 2-3weeks 'and we'll see what happens'. I don't see the season being completed though.

It could be hell in 3 weeks so that isnt happening

 

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[svn]

There’s no way I think they will declare the league positions as final. The league will either be suspended and resumed at a later date or just a new season will be started with this season incomplete. It doesn’t matter how many points Liverpool are clear at the top it’s simply bad luck, health of the public and players comes first.

I agree. It would be insane to declare the league completed "as is". There are teams with "easy" games left to play compared to others with horrid run ins. With the money at stake, it's not going to happen.

Look at League 1 for instance where 1 point separates positions 3rd to 8th, with the team in 8th place having played 2 games less.

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

Announcement that Prem Lge and EFL to be suspended until weekend of 4 April expected around 11am.

By Matt Hughes, retweeted by Gary Neville

 

[TMDaines]

When I was in my 20s I was at a party in London... there was a beautiful, tall, Dutch model there, in her late 20s, utterly stunning.

We spent ages talking and it started to become very clear that for whatever reason, she liked me. She was holding my hand and wouldn't leave my side. She then asked how far away I lived from the party and if she could come back with me.

Unfortunately, about an hour prior to us hitting it off, I thought it'd be a good idea to neck copious amounts of crystal MDMA, which was extremely potent and as the evening went on I became, shall we say, more 'psychedelic' minded than libidinous...

I had no idea what the fecking feck I was doing and after stumbling around the party like Steven Gerrard trying to intercept a misplaced pass to Demba Ba, I stumbled home, back to my lonely room with my dog looking at me and probably thinking 'you twat, not again'.

What should've been a XXX porn scene ended up more like an out-take from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Now, the above story is true. But what wouldn't be true, is if I tried to say that I DID shag the gorgeous Dutch babe... because, well, I didn't.

I could've, she was right there for the taking... but I didn't.

And that's how this season would be remembered for you if the PL is voided - you could've won it, but you didn't.

And besides, it's worse for Utd - we're being denied the EL and the F.A Cup, you're only being denied a PL title, and trust me, they come and go - well, not so much for you, but for us.

Also, another way of looking at it, is that if you do fail to win it - yes, you'll feel a bit mopey for a bit, but you will've brought so much joy and amusement to the rest of the League at a time of National crisis.

And that, my scouse friend, is a beautiful thing.

OK, this was good.

 

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[Judge Red]

Obviously it won’t resume on April 4 but I appreciate their optimism.

 

[Sassy Colin]

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Is this his personal opinion or is there a source for this?

 

[Jacko21]

Is this his personal opinion or is there a source for this?

It’s confirmed.

 

[esmufc07]

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[#07]

Is this his personal opinion or is there a source for this?

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[Sarni]

We won't be 5th if they suspend the league at this moment. They will take into account the last time the teams had played the same number of games. Since every team has played 28 games at least, I think the 29th games for those who have played will be struck off. In that case our last match could be struck off, meaning we would have less points than Sheffield Utd and we would be 6th. They can't take the current positions as final because certain teams have played 1 less game.

Of course this is conjecture on my part but I think its logical. If indeed the league is suspended with these positions as final, then they have to make sure that all teams have played the same amount of games.

They can't suspend the league with these positions as final. It's just not going to happen, they'll have lawsuits all over them.

 

[matt10000]

Feck the final position, lives are at risk. Voiding is the sensible thing. We can survive no champions league. Putting people involved in the club at any risk is ridiculous. Sir Bobby and Sir Alex lives are more important to me as they would be at incredible risk.

Sir Bobby and Sir Alex don't have to attend the game in person.

Yesterday I was thinking shut it all down but from reading this morning I am not sure......

I am no expert but from reading this morning it looks like Coronavirus like other flu type viruses will be with us now year on year.

Problem now is it spreads like wild fire but once we have herd immunity it will become much like other annual flu variations

In theory, herd immunity means not everyone in a community needs to be immune to prevent spread of disease. If a high enough proportion of individuals in a population are immune, the majority will protect the few susceptible people because the pathogen is less likely to find a susceptible person.

It seems about 60% of the population need to have caught it in order to get herd immunity.

If we don't get 60% of people catching it this year then the same situation we have now will apply to the more vulnerable next year, and the next until 60% of the population have had it and are immune and it prevents spread rate.

So I guess it is a balance of wanting 60% of people to catch it and become immune but wanting most to get it during summer when NHS is better able to cope with those that are more susceptible while at the same time minimising transmission to susceptible people during this period?

 

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[Sandikan]

Seriously - Liverpool must be declared champions. As much as I hate them - they are the champions and deserve to win.

With all due respect that's a nonsense.
You're not champions until you have won something.

Otherwise it sets a dangerous precedent.

When do you declare someone a winner in other world issues?

29/38 games in?
20/38 games in?
1/38 game in?

What's the cut off and points margin needed?

 

[vodrake]

Obviously it won’t resume on April 4 but I appreciate their optimism.

I doubt even they think it will resume then, but they need to give themselves enough time to plan out how they're going to end the season. Void the whole thing, suspend it, take current positions as final, etc.

Whichever way they do it, I presume they have to get prepared for a lot of lawsuits coming their way

 

[red4ever 79]

Monday? They should be able to announce something like that today. Why does everything in the UK move at a snails pace?

Premier league are meeting today morning

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1645096

 

[SirAnderson]

Is this his personal opinion or is there a source for this?

Confirmed yes.

UEFA has announced all Champions League and Europa League matches scheduled for next week have been postponed.

A UEFA statement read: "In the light of developments due to the spread of Covid-19 in Europe and related decisions made by different governments, all UEFA club competition matches scheduled next week are postponed.

"This includes the remaining UEFA Champions League round-of-16 second leg matches scheduled on 17 and 18 March 2020; all UEFA Europa League round of 16 second leg matches scheduled on 19 March 2020; all UEFA Youth League quarter-final matches scheduled on 17 and 18 March 2020.

"Further decisions on when these matches take place will be communicated in due course.

"As a consequence of the postponements, the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League quarter-final draws scheduled for 20 March have also been postponed."