Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

They have a meeting this morning to decide but i read that they are still insisting to play behind closed doors.
That is also unfair for the 'home' teams playing without their 'home' crowd.

The government and scientific advice (not just in the UK) says there's little evidence that playing behind closed doors helps slow or stop the spread.

Suspending the league will now happen, and that's a different thing all together, once the virus is into some squads, they have absolutely no choice.

 

[TRUERED89]

For you people living in mainland UK I'd ignore what Boris has told you . Keep the kids at home and if you can work from home . This thing is only starting football is going to be totally irrelevant very soon . Stay safe people

My cnut of a CEO will have us working on our deathbed, so no chance of working from home unfortunately. I commute to London on the fecking train 5 days a week too (face palm).

 

[Gambit]

Too many posts, can’t find it now. Do you think it’s true then? Permanent lung damage!

Yes, won't be everyone but if you have inflamed lungs being battered with constant coughing it can lead to other lung complications. Same for all virus's.

 

[SirAnderson]

It's not "sanity" prevailing, once squads were isolating and contracting Covid-19, it was ALWAYS going to be suspended. There is simply no choice.

Suspending it before then has/had very little benefit.

It is sanity when they when just a few hours ago they sent out a statement saying this were going to continue. It's insanity to wait for multiple cases before making this decision. I mean, they put out this statement even after Leicesters team was confirmed to be in isolation for showing symptoms.
So hence sanity, or common sense, or logic whatever you want to call it, forces their hand, cause as you say, it was always going to be suspended, why they had to wait so long is the insanity.

 

[thegregster]

I go along with this. If this happened in November or December, then perhaps there is reason for 'null and void'. Yet, with 2/3rds of the season complete, there is no chance the relegation battle/promotion will be scrapped, nevermind Liverpool winning the title.

That assumes the crisis is going to end in a month or two.

Nobody really knows when it will end.

 

[Enfant terrible]

When I was in my 20s I was at a party in London... there was a beautiful, tall, Dutch model there, in her late 20s, utterly stunning.

We spent ages talking and it started to become very clear that for whatever reason, she liked me. She was holding my hand and wouldn't leave my side. She then asked how far away I lived from the party and if she could come back with me.

Unfortunately, about an hour prior to us hitting it off, I thought it'd be a good idea to neck copious amounts of crystal MDMA, which was extremely potent and as the evening went on I became, shall we say, more 'psychedelic' minded than libidinous...

I had no idea what the fecking feck I was doing and after stumbling around the party like Steven Gerrard trying to intercept a misplaced pass to Demba Ba, I stumbled home, back to my lonely room with my dog looking at me and probably thinking 'you twat, not again'.

What should've been a XXX porn scene ended up more like an out-take from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Now, the above story is true. But what wouldn't be true, is if I tried to say that I DID shag the gorgeous Dutch babe... because, well, I didn't.

I could've, she was right there for the taking... but I didn't.

And that's how this season would be remembered for you if the PL is voided - you could've won it, but you didn't.

And besides, it's worse for Utd - we're being denied the EL and the F.A Cup, you're only being denied a PL title, and trust me, they come and go - well, not so much for you, but for us.

Also, another way of looking at it, is that if you do fail to win it - yes, you'll feel a bit mopey for a bit, but you will've brought so much joy and amusement to the rest of the League at a time of National crisis.

And that, my scouse friend, is a beautiful thing.

This is beautiful.
It reminds me of many stories from my youth.

 

[SirAnderson]

My cnut of a CEO will have us working on our deathbed, so no chance of working from home unfortunately. I commute to London on the fecking train 5 days a week too (face palm).

Hope you haven't seen that video of the guy wearing a medical mask take it off and intentionally wiping his saliva on the pole in the train.

 

[Pav1878]

Totally disagree. You can’t end the season and just say ok how it stands now is how it finishes. There’s teams still fighting for positions, it would be massively unfair on them to not have the chance to redeem maybe their bad form.

The only way is to suspend the league untill it can be continued (which doesn’t sound feasible) and then cancel the league and start again

I agree. What would have happened if this had hit at Christmas as there have been several times when a team top at Christmas hasn't won the title eg arsenal.

That would mean giving it to a team just cos they were top at the time. As far as Liverpool are ahead, they haven't got enough points to be crowned champions so whether we are two games into a season or 30 doesn't or shouldn't matter.

 

[TRUERED89]

Hope you haven't seen that video of the guy wearing a medical mask take it off and intentionally wiping his saliva on the pole in the train.

I have, what a vile mother fecker!

 

[UncleBob]

If for example we suspended all competitions now and started up again i June, ending early August; then I'd imagine the transfer window would be shifted to open after the season.

Players who's contracts are up in June should be automatically extended on the same contract terms for 2 months.

 

[SirAnderson]

I have, what a vile mother fecker!

Crazy what people do!

What's your take on what will happen once its postponed?

 

[esmufc07]

It's happening

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— Twitter API (@user) date

Sean from Enderby a reliable source yeah?

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Well

article 16: the principle that contracts cannot be terminated during the course of the season;
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And if FIFA & UEFA change the season, a player isn't even allowed to switch club mid-season so...

Also @UncleBob:

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1. If an intermediary is involved in the negotiation of a contract, he shall be named in that contract.
2. The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years.

So I think many of us are making the mistake of thinking that a contract ends on 1st June, when it appears according to FIFA rules that the contract must end at the end of the season.
It's likely that possible league extensions have been considered by FIFA, and that contracts end on the 1st of the month following the end of the 2019-2020 league season.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

100% league will get postponed and eventually suspended after two high profile positive Covid19 found.

 

[Guy Incognito]

That assumes the crisis is going to end in a month or two.

Nobody really knows when it will end.

True, but I think the league will still push for BCD before any large scale fixture postponements.

 

[TRUERED89]

Crazy what people do!

What's your take on what will happen once its postponed?

The ramifications are too big for the money men imo, Euro’s will probably be halted to complete the PL season and others behind closed doors.

 

[kps88]

Sean from Enderby a reliable source yeah?

His bio includes the phrase "1.3% body fat making the sluts go nuts!". So yes, I'm obviously taking his word for it.

 

[Odin]

You'd either have to put an end to the season at the midpoint where all teams have played eachother, postpone or run the Bundesliga model. I fancy the latter. It should create less legal headache and allow all parties involved to move forwards.

Match schedules will be tight though...

 

[The Cat]

You'd either have to put an end to the season at the midpoint where all teams have played eachother, postpone or run the Bundesliga model. I fancy the latter. It should create less legal headache and allow all parties involved to move forwards.

Match schedules will be tight though...

Maybe bin all cups for a year to help out?

 

[Pexbo]

Sean from Enderby a reliable source yeah?

It's happening

 

[pratyush_utd]

I favour Bundesliga method. For various reasons. This isnt going to go away in a week or two. Will take months to recover. Suspend the league and start new one when it is feasible.

 

[Phurry]

What about Premier League prize money? There is a £2m bonus for every league position so that alone will trigger the legal challenges, look at what that means for a club like Sheff Utd. The only way to avoid the legal challenges IS to finish the season at some point.

Potential prize money is the one thing that can be declared irrelevant by legal arguments; no club should be planning based on prize money associated with league position as it is not guaranteed. Sheff Utd will have planned based on a finish considerably lower than where they are right now, that’s called being sensible and is what any judge will expect.

 

[11101]

I think there will playoffs done as follows:

Champions
CL spots
Relegation spots

Anybody mathematically still in the race for any of those is involved. Maybe they add in a weighting system somehow for the likes of Liverpool and Norwich.

 

[Phurry]

Well



And if FIFA & UEFA change the season, a player isn't even allowed to switch club mid-season so...

Also @UncleBob:



So I think many of us are making the mistake of thinking that a contract ends on 1st June, when it appears according to FIFA rules that the contract must end at the end of the season.
It's likely that possible league extensions have been considered by FIFA, and that contracts end on the 1st of the month following the end of the 2019-2020 league season.

All the best forcing a player to stay beyond the 1st June, the PL would get sued for restricting trade by every player affected.

 

[Odin]

Maybe bin all cups for a year to help out?

That should do the trick!

 

[UncleBob]

Well



And if FIFA & UEFA change the season, a player isn't even allowed to switch club mid-season so...

Also @UncleBob:



So I think many of us are making the mistake of thinking that a contract ends on 1st June, when it appears according to FIFA rules that the contract must end at the end of the season.
It's likely that possible league extensions have been considered by FIFA, and that contracts end on the 1st of the month following the end of the 2019-2020 league season.

Most likely it's just written that way to avoid having to list x amount of dates depending on country, the contract will stipulate a fixed date and getting around that isn't easy. I doubt any clubs are interested in a legal fight over it, could be a disaster

 

[saivet]

I think there will playoffs done as follows:

Champions
CL spots
Relegation spots

Anybody mathematically still in the race for any of those is involved. Maybe they add in a weighting system somehow for the likes of Liverpool and Norwich.

That surely then gets really complicated.

I'm sure there are teams that could mathematically get relegated and make the CL.

 

[sewey89]

My cnut of a CEO will have us working on our deathbed, so no chance of working from home unfortunately. I commute to London on the fecking train 5 days a week too (face palm).

My CEO has the virus and we're still not being told to work from home...

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

All the best forcing a player to stay beyond the 1st June, the PL would get sued for restricting trade by every player affected.

Most likely it's just written that way to avoid having to list x amount of dates depending on country, the contract will stipulate a fixed date and getting around that isn't easy.

Maybe, but FIFA already restricts trade and free movement with the transfer window. By shifting the transfer window, what choice would a player have? Sit on his arse for 2-3 months without pay? or play.

I'm not as convinced it'd be a legally difficult as you expect, but let's be honest here, I've no clue.

 

[LordNinio]

All the best forcing a player to stay beyond the 1st June, the PL would get sued for restricting trade by every player affected.

Not if their contract states 'end of the 2019/2020 season'

 

[Judas]

I think there will playoffs done as follows:

Champions
CL spots
Relegation spots

Anybody mathematically still in the race for any of those is involved. Maybe they add in a weighting system somehow for the likes of Liverpool and Norwich.

I don't see that happening at all, think its just wishful thinking. I'd be shocked if they go completely out of the regular process and do something like that. If the way they've handled it so far has shown us anything, they'd rather just leave things as they are than upset anything.

 

[11101]

That surely then gets really complicated.

I'm sure there are teams that could mathematically get relegated and make the CL.

Probably, but what else can they do if they don't have time to finish the league in the summer? Freezing the league as it is now or scrubbing the season would lead to huge legal challenges.

 

[MoXoM]

Just end the season and give Liverpool the title.

Liverpool fans: "We won the league!"

Everyone else: "No. It was handed to you because of a deadly virus!"

 

[Scriblerus]

I'm sure that we can expect the brains in charge of Premier League football in this country to come up with an elegant and fair solution. Based on the following criteria.
1. Money.
Um….that's it.
Seriously, I doubt that playing behind closed doors will get the nod. I know that other income streams are important these days, but the loss of revenue would be significant. I'm expecting suspension with a view to restarting when possible, but cancellation on the table if the fixture pile up becomes unworkable (it will). And forget the Euros. No chance they will happen.

 

[Gringo]

I still wouldn't put it past the Premier League to continue playing.

 

[Rado_N]

Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. Search the guardian for the government’s advice on coronavirus and why they’re giving it. It’s all laid out clearly and logically.

I wouldn’t trust any single one of them as far as I could throw the whole lot of them at once.

All they care about is the economic impact.

 

[UncleBob]

Maybe, but FIFA already restricts trade and free movement with the transfer window. By shifting the transfer window, what choice would a player have? Sit on his arse for 2-3 months without pay? or play.

I'm not as convinced it'd be a legally difficult as you expect, but let's be honest here, I've no clue.

I don't see how they can just shift everything, the consequences would be bigger than just null and voiding things, I'd be surprised if there isn't a date when the season has to be concluded.It's a legally binding contract, imagine a scenario where the Premier League gets delayed for 3 months while Italy and Spain are still operating as normal, then telling x amount of players that their move to/from PL is on hold until the PL has finished the season.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I don't see how they can just shift everything, the consequences would be bigger than just null and voiding things, I'd be surprised if there isn't a date when the season has to be concluded.It's a legally binding contract, imagine a scenario where the Premier League gets delayed for 3 months while Italy and Spain are still operating as normal, then telling x amount of players that their move to/from PL is on hold until the PL has finished the season.

You may well be right mate.

Although I do get a sense of desperation in here for the PL to just null and void the season. Can't imagine why like

 

[TheReligion]

Maybe bin all cups for a year to help out?

It's helped Liverpool

 

[Phurry]

Not if their contract states 'end of the 2019/2020 season'

A lawyer (& the players agent) would never have allowed his client to have such a vague term in a contract, there will be a hard date set.