The main thing I've learnt from all this so far is that I fecking love touching my face.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I really hope it’s fake news. Medics are as vulnerable as the rest of us to whatsapp rumours!
Thanks.
Looks like my normal method of ignoring a problem in the hope it goes away, might not work this time.
People are confused and don't know where to turn, parents are unsure and don't want to get fines (or worse) for keeping kids off school for weeks at a time, schools are scared but the Government has given no reassurances, so everyone is confused - there's absolutely zero leadership in this time of crisis.
Same, and biting my nails. I don't know what to do with my hands.
Afraid that was too much for my tiny brain to comprehend. Is there any evidence of what now?!
How old is your son and how much does "authorised" absense matter? I'd be gobsmacked if an abense during this period is left as a black against him. There was a government minister on the radio the other day saying no parent will be receiving any fines for virus related absense.So my son was ill yesterday, fever shivers and dry cough. Phoned the NHS line and they were clueless, just said ask the school. So phoned the school and they said keep him and his brother off for 2 days.
Now I was worried about their attendance marks, so phoned again today and they said keep them off for 7 days but they'll phone me back. I've just had a phonecall say actually don't because there's no guarantee that they'll beable to justify it as authorised absence and the no one is advising them.
Basically they are clueless, the NHS line are clueless and everyone is being left to their own devices. Meanwhile my son is absolutely fine now, but I have a tickly throat
The current strategy in a tweet.
Also in a tweet, why it is not the panacea some are trying to pretend.
Also in a tweet, why it is not the panacea some are trying to pretend.
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I think Pex is asking if this (or any) virus is capable of mutating so fast and thoroughly that immunity is impossible, and some people are literally just continuously ill with varied strains of it.
Of course I do. It is a potentially scary epidemic but we don't know what will happen just yet. 10 deaths in 8 weeks is sad but it's a small number in relation to other issues. If it starts scaling up dramatically then I will concede I misjudged it.
Germany handling it very well though. 2000 cases and just 2 deaths so far. There is hope.
The virus is mutating so we don't know if it will cause same consequences in every country.
It matters a lot, it's sats year for a start. And I recently had an incident where they told me his therapist appointments were authorised, but turns out the government advice in that was wrong and I was a week away from a fine and possibly court without even knowing it.
But the point is more that there's absolutely no idea what they should be doing. First saying 2 days, then saying 7, now saying bring them back in Monday. I'm savvy enough and lucky enough to be in a position to decide for myself what to do and have cover for my boys, but what about everyone else who aren't quite so lucky?
Indeed. Actually, I was wondering @Pogue Mahone if there's any way of knowing the number of Flu deaths so far in 2020 (in UK)?
Would really appreciate it if anyone has official numbers on this.
My company has told everyone to Wfh now where possible.
Between this, other large companies doing the same and football being cancelled... Doesn't show a great deal of faith in good old Boris aye.
Between this, other large companies doing the same and football being cancelled... Doesn't show a great deal of faith in good old Boris aye.
Universities are always shit when it comes to these things. I learned that working for one.
So my son was ill yesterday, fever shivers and dry cough. Phoned the NHS line and they were clueless, just said ask the school. So phoned the school and they said keep him and his brother off for 2 days.
Now I was worried about their attendance marks, so phoned again today and they said keep them off for 7 days but they'll phone me back. I've just had a phonecall say actually don't because there's no guarantee that they'll beable to justify it as authorised absence and the no one is advising them.
Basically they are clueless, the NHS line are clueless and everyone is being left to their own devices. Meanwhile my son is absolutely fine now, but I have a tickly throat
This country.I know, it's ridiculous
It's why I started asking the questions, turns out no one knows anything. Shocking, I know!
Unis should be able to cancel lectures with ease. Theres no difficulty in either recording a lecture or streaming it. 90% of our lectures dont have 1 question.
Sorry, I'll reword it.
So I am assuming that most people that become infected are infected at a single point in time or at least in a short period of time by a single person or handful of people :- They will likely be infected by the virus in a particular point in its evolutionary life cycle and hopefully overcome it.
Front line medics on the other hand are likely to come into contact with literally thousands of infected people over a much longer time frame :- They are likely to see greater variety in the virus as it mutates from person to person, in some cases it might be more harmless and in others it could have mutated in a particularly nasty way or in a way that has evolved to overcome the natural immunity the medic has developed.
Is this logical/biologically viable? Essentially does immunity generally protect from the virus when in place or can a virus mutate in such a way/rate that continual exposure over a length of time to a wide variety of carriers increase the risk of a critical infection?
Madness. Every Uni in Norway (and schools/kindergardens etc) has closed down.
Yea more than likely this thing at the minimum will be 2 to 3 months long.
It could be longer though. I think six months or more would be realistic.
Yeh I think its a no brainer to just go with whatever you think is best for the health of your kids, unfortunately not everyone will know what is best. One of the problems schools etc are having is that the advice is changing every day because the situation is changing every day. It is only yesterday government policy became pretty much 'carry on as normal' whereas the day before they cared more about containment.
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Heres the thing JPR, if we hadn't prior to 2020, we had ample time to prepare for this. We knew it was coming and that it would arrive with force. We even knew the extreme measures that needed to be taken to stop it yet here we are.
I said months ago that this had to be taken seriously and that the public needed to be prepared. Instead nothing happened and most of the stupid population kept going on about "fear mongering" and now we're in utter chaos. The first message we got from our government was to wash our fecking hands. Something that should have been pushed through months ago anyway!
Appreciate there isn’t much alternative but it’s really frustrating that analysis is largely being based on confirmed cases. It would be fine if we had an effective approach to confirming cases, but the level of testing doesn't appear to presently be sufficient.
Those exact numbers are hard to calculate accurately. @Wibble posted this a few days ago and I skimmed through it.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm
I get that you may feel the need to have a rant but I'm not sure about what it has to do with my answer to @Rhyme Animal question.
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Part of the answer is found in the fact that you wouldn't be able to post what you're posting about the Chinese government in China, and if you did, you'd either pretty quickly recant it or find yourself disappeared.
Misquoted, sorry. Was meant to quote the post you replied to me!
Our work has employed a 50/50 split between those working at home and those staying in the office.
Personally I don’t understand this as, barring some inexperienced staff who need supervision, nobody else technically has to work in the office. We can all work remotely.
Personally I don’t understand this as, barring some inexperienced staff who need supervision, nobody else technically has to work in the office. We can all work remotely.
What do you want them to do on the phone? The guidance is pretty clear.So my son was ill yesterday, fever shivers and dry cough. Phoned the NHS line and they were clueless, just said ask the school. So phoned the school and they said keep him and his brother off for 2 days.
Now I was worried about their attendance marks, so phoned again today and they said keep them off for 7 days but they'll phone me back. I've just had a phonecall say actually don't because there's no guarantee that they'll beable to justify it as authorised absence and the no one is advising them.
Basically they are clueless, the NHS line are clueless and everyone is being left to their own devices. Meanwhile my son is absolutely fine now, but I have a tickly throat
I'm struggling to work out you could possibly care about attendance marks currently and that would be a factor in your decision making?!
That's human error.
The outsourcing of the production of test kits to overseas looks like a bad idea, as yeah saved money, but no one kinda got they’d keep the kits for their own people and feck everyone else during a pandemic!
KFC pauses finger lickin' ads amid coronavirus panic and 150 complaints.
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how the feck did they put a man on the moonI do. My company did something similar early on. The two groups are not allowed to come into contact, therefore if one group gets the virus the other can keep the company running. Incredibly selfish and greedy.
Are we though?
I refer to most of the world. And yes parts of it are.
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I've read the Lombardy region in Italy is up there with the best as well.There's a study which shows the US as #1 in capable to deal with a global outbreak, UK is #2 or #3. It seems the researchers failed to factor in how much our governments give a shit
Not hard to see that any so called top country or region can be overwhelmed very quickly.