SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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I had the flu two years ago. It was genuinely the worst week of my life, but it was nothing like a cold. You usually don't have a runny/blocked nose if you have the flu. It's the fever and body aches that encompass your whole body, rather being a condition more localised to your head.

Once you have had the flu, you will never confuse a common cold and flu-type illnesses ever again.
Yeah I got the flu for the first time in my life 2 years ago as well and it floored me. Literally. Spent the week sleeping on the toilet floor :lol:
 

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I had the flu in February as well as my wife and 20 year old son . Worst flu I have ever had , coughing for 3 weeks , insane temperature, my wife was hospitalised for 6 days as she couldn`t breathe . I have still got a snotty nose now .
 

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Turned mobile notifications off for news apps. It's not healthy for the mind constantly being told every time someone dies.
 

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Quite a few in here are so adamant the government is correct they'll be able to offer him the answers I'm sure
Since nobody here is qualified to judge whether the govt's strategy is correct or not, it's best to trust that they broadly know what they are doing.

Now's not the time for frantic finger pointing.

It does seem odd however, that stuff you would expect to flow naturally from this plan, eg setting up the NHS, training staff, clearing beds, activating retired medical staff - doesn't seem to be happening
 

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Yep. I've had the flu twice in my life and it's next level shit. Never knew my body could release so much water. Worst thing was I couldn't taste beer. Wasted a damn good IPA that week.
The night I had an all-night fever dream was the worst. Every time I closed my eyes I immediately went right back into the dream and couldn't make a conscious effort to get out of it. It was just a dream about something simple like putting a box on a shelf, but the shelf kept moving. I'd wake up, talk myself out of it, close my eyes and it was there again.
 

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I guess what a lot of the 'it's just a glorified flu bro' crowd are missing is that Covid-19 results in more hospitalizations, therefore putting more pressure on healthcare providers. It's both a mortality & logistics issue, not just mortality.
 

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The Tory strategy is massively risky. It has to be a Cummings invention. If the popular strategy fails governents can blame the WHO or the 'consensus'. If the Tory strategy fails then its all on them. Governments may be following the consensus against their own information for that reason though.
 

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This WHO conference is an absolute shit show technology wise. How hard can it be to use phones?
At least they are clear that any rise in cases is absolutely inevitable and desired to get on top of the issue. You can't be judging success at this stage through expecting a plateau in the number of cases.
 

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The Tory strategy is massively risky. It has to be a Cummings invention. If the popular strategy fails governents can blame the WHO or the 'consensus'. If the Tory strategy fails then its all on them. Governments may be following the consensus against their own information for that reason though.
I agree, risky because its unprecedented.

But I think it's unfair to pin the plan on Cummings. I'd say Vallance and his team of adviser presented multiple plans of action, Cummings probably did steer the government to the most radical option though.
 

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Yep. I've had the flu twice in my life and it's next level shit. Never knew my body could release so much water. Worst thing was I couldn't taste beer. Wasted a damn good IPA that week.
Most people only get flu at least twice in their entire lives.
Although I've friends on Facebook who get it twice every winter.
 

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Yeah I got the flu for the first time in my life 2 years ago as well and it floored me. Literally. Spent the week sleeping on the toilet floor :lol:
Wow. Had the flu once I think but it must have affected you way worse than me. i'd say Norovirus was the worst illness I can remember. The duration was much shorter than flu but i was actually vomiting water for a few days. If i drank any liquid at all it would immediately be thrown right back up. Had to rinse my mouth and spit it out to try and help the dehydration whilst not being sick. My understanding of Covid-19 is that the symptoms are high temperature, muscle aches, fatigue and sore throat (though not a runny nose). I guess the severity will vary from person to person.
 

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I thought Norfolk was one of the few Counties with (officially) no cases?

Also ahead of the curve up there despite talking funny. Think I'm gonna move to Norwich in the foreseeable.
Yeah, in theory, but it's been borderline impossible to get a test here from what I understand even if you have symptoms because its hard to prove exposure to it.

There was an email today that a student is self-isolating in halls on 111s advice, so I think that's about to change.
 

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So anyone got any Twitter chitter about China doing unethical stuff in finding any vaccine in speedy time, by bypassing usual safety standards? Surely they must be at the forefront. Someone mentioned using the blood of recovered patients for anti bodies. I know it's bad to think it but we need a "bad" mofo in the family right now. :nervous:
 

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Most people only get flu at least twice in their entire lives.
Although I've friends on Facebook who get it twice every winter.
Twice in one lifetime?? Lucky buggers if so. I guarantee to get it a couple of times a year
 

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I had a thought after a trip to Aldi... what happens once the workers at supermarkets and pharmacies start getting the virus? :nervous:
 

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Probably the cold. Did you ever get tested for flu? Truthfully now as we have doctors in here with access to records.
:lol: No, but I don’t tend to go to the doctors. Except this past fortnight where I’ve been in twice and spent 10 hours in hospital (not with Covid-19). I suspect it to be flu as it’s quite easy to tell the difference from that and a heavy cold, but who knows.
 

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:lol: No, but I don’t tend to go to the doctors. Except this past fortnight where I’ve been in twice and spent 10 hours in hospital (not with Covid-19). I suspect it to be flu as it’s quite easy to tell the difference from that and a heavy cold, but who knows.
In my experience. If you can walk, it's not the flu.
 

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:lol: No, but I don’t tend to go to the doctors. Except this past fortnight where I’ve been in twice and spent 10 hours in hospital (not with Covid-19). I suspect it to be flu as it’s quite easy to tell the difference from that and a heavy cold, but who knows.
Flu will floor you for a week. Bed ridden. You'll know the difference.
 

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I should look at it. As above, I don’t tend to go near the doctors, save for this labyrinth syndrome, which has had me completely fecked for about 3 weeks now
Where do you live? Here in Canada I can get a flu shot from my pharmacist. I haven't had the flu since 2005. Definitely worth it.
 

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So can someone please clarify my understanding? I could ask the reporter at work but I fear looking like a moron. But is this UK's strategy:

- Let the infection spread to get "herd immunity"

But this means:

- up to 1% of the population may die as a consequence but that is..... OK?
- There is no proof that if you already had it, you won't get it again or a different strand
- The more people that get infected, isn't there a chance it evolves quicker?
 

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I had a thought after a trip to Aldi... what happens once the workers at supermarkets and pharmacies start getting the virus? :nervous:
Police will only be responding to the most serious crimes at that point. So I guess a free for all :nervous:

The real questions is what happens when Balti King round the corner stops delivering. We'd have crisis on our hands then...
 

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- up to 1% of the population may die as a consequence but that is..... OK?
- There is no proof that if you already had it, you won't get it again or a different strand
- The more people that get infected, isn't there a chance it evolves quicker?
I don't think that's a serious worst case scenario.
 

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:lol: No, but I don’t tend to go to the doctors. Except this past fortnight where I’ve been in twice and spent 10 hours in hospital (not with Covid-19). I suspect it to be flu as it’s quite easy to tell the difference from that and a heavy cold, but who knows.
Yeah, I'm someone who likes to "keep busy" when ill, but even watching TV was too much for a couple of days with the flu.
 

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In my experience. If you can walk, it's not the flu.
Flu will floor you for a week. Bed ridden. You'll know the difference.
This is my worry. Flu is awful, you can barely function. Is Covid-19 like that? These details tend to be missing as they've focused on numbers and worst case scenarios rather than explaining what most people will feel like...
 

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This is my worry. Flu is awful, you can barely function. Is Covid-19 like that? These details tend to be missing as they've focused on numbers and worst case scenarios rather than explaining what most people will feel like...
Not initially. Fever, followed by a dry cough, and finally viral pneumonia which will flood your lungs with liquid so will seem like you're drowning for a breathe.