I think the point is that regardless of what you have to do for a living, you don't need to be going out getting pissed with your esteemed colleagues in the presence of other idiots.
Italy also has numerous complicating factors in their outbreak: they didn’t get to grips with the initial outbreak, the outbreak blew up in one region, they have a tactile culture, they have a large elderly population, they have have a high percentage of elderly people living with younger people; they have a lot of smokers (2x the number of the UK) ((smokers were found to be 50% more likely to need hospital treatment and 33% more likely to need a ventilator IIRC)), compared to the UK they have a higher prevalence of diabetes, hypertension and heart disease (the 3 comorbidities found to be the strongest indicators of death).
You can buy the outfits!
Yeah, it could be very high because we don't really know the proportion of people that are asymptomatics or minimally symptomatics, that's where early testings would have been useful because some virologists think that the Asian and European strains could be slightly different maybe it affects that part or maybe it doesn't but at the moment we can only effectively use data coming from South Korea.
Hopefully they move soon to having daily televised briefings and getting Hancock out the way. The "quarantine over 70s for four months" hasn't been helpful either.
You’re in Derry?
Not entirely sure where i'm panicking, nor am i hiding away anywhere, i have about 120-180 travel days a year going all over the world
You do realise that every country has its own infrastructures, it’s own medical system, it’s own expert advice. You do also realise that, as with all life, sometimes it’s not fair and that others get it much worse. For reasons it takes years and years to understand. My mindset is exactly as it should be, taking it seriously, making sure I minimise all risk to those vulnerable around me and awaiting further instruction into how to live my daily life. I’ll be going into school tomorrow, 2 members of staff down in a team of 5, teaching upto 60 kids at a time their PE and fitness lessons for 6 hours. I’ll also then have to manage my team who look after a large group for their after school clubs, around 100 in a variety of sports. But you tell me I’m the selfish one.
That's exactly what I said. There are so many completely contradicting info coming out from gov officials it's crazy, no idea who to believe. Communication is terrible from the gov.
Yeah, literally 0% of the population want to from Matt Hancock right now. At least Andy Burham has that degree of self-reflection about him.
Would we good if we could because currently NHS has 44000 nursing vacancies. Gee I wonder if a decade of austerity and taking away nursing bursaries was a good idea?
Looking at the charts, Italy definitely seem to be out of proportion compared to everywhere else, even if we assume the likes of China/Iran are lying or under reporting their figures. Spain and Germany are fairly new to join the outbreak club, we'll see if their mortality rate are anywhere near as scary as Italys.
You’ve accused me and all of those I was with of being ‘morons’.And that’s your response?
You mean the airline right?
Nearly doubled to 110 now.
It's all well and good doing what you've been told by your bosses.
Well said, man.
Spain passed from 2.5% to 3.7% mortality rate in 48 hours
You are.
Will only get higher as their health service becomes unable to treat people.
fecking hell really Bath?
Absolutely. Also, the first "big Batch" of infected they are just starting to get worse. So sure will spike. Italy infection rate fluctuate sometimes, but the deads only grow
This. People think Italy is high but most countries are catching up everyday as most countries on the rise. Iran up to 5-6%
I’ll take your opinion on the chin and think you’re just like the others. Life must be full of joy for you lot. Personal insults are usually reserved for those who can’t debate or give reasoning behind their claims.
Well for now I’m approaching this as flu. Flu is about...do I stop my activity?
If you want to, we can have a bit of a wager on what will happen in the upcoming 2-3 months in Europe.
But the exact same thing surely happens with the regular flu. So I reckon covid being 20x deadlier or whatever the numbers say is about right. Both true figures will be lower than confirmed figures.
Italy's cases per 1M pop are twice as high as anyone else, why is that? And what makes you think other countries will catch up, as if they are suddenly the new global standard.
I apologise if it’s came across that way. It was meant to show the area and the type of people who are out around here, and I’m sure around most of the country. Again apologies it came across at all boastful.
Life isn't fair. Of course it isn't. But if you have the ability to save others by reducing transmission, how on earth can you justify not taking it?
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