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We have no idea when it will be safe to start again. What happens with regards to player contracts and transfers? This season is scrapped if it can’t be completed by July 1st.


With regards to Champions League football, qualification for UCL football is down to UEFA rather than the Premier League. There’s no reason why they can’t extend qualifiers to earlier rounds and allow any club who could could viably qualify via their domestic league enter at an earlier stage.
It used to be the norm that players could move at any time during the season (no transfer windows). No reason why that can't be brought back for a few months at least. Besides, most players out of contract at the end of June will probably have their futures already sorted out anyway. However, I don't think that the 30th June contract expiries is just cause to throw a spanner into the works. Not when you consider there's far greater, & more important, issues, that need to be prioritized.
 

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Are Liverpool going to wheel out anyone else to say life’s not fair? Next match t-shirts with some slogan on...

“We’re entitled to win without winning”
 

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I think the question shouldn't be what we do about this season but what we do about next.

This season has to be finished. Too much to play for and too late in the season to chalk it off.

Euros is a write off, do it next year instead. Next season we either skip the Caribou for a year or in extreme circumstances (ie everythings cancelled til say August), teams play each other only once in the league (like they do in the 6 Nations). The Champions/Europa League could be a straight up knockout competition too. But this season definitely has to finish no matter how long we wait.
It’ll be different Players teams and squadS next year. It’ll be a different season
 

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Premier league chairman is already saying he can't see the season being finished.

I think that says it all.
 

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It used to be the norm that players could move at any time during the season (no transfer windows). No reason why that can't be brought back for a few months at least. Besides, most players out of contract at the end of June will probably have their futures already sorted out anyway. However, I don't think that the 30th June contract expiries is just cause to throw a spanner into the works. Not when you consider there's far greater, & more important, issues, that need to be prioritized.
So change the rules so you can win the title? I think you’ll struggle to get even 1 more team on board let alone 14
 

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I don't know about shortening next season but there's certainly plenty of scope to reduce the amount of games played in all competitions. The Carabao Cup needs to be ditched for starters. Then UEFA need to look at doing away with the group stages in the EL & the CL, taking both comps back to the days of the old European Cup when they were straight-forward 2 legged affairs. Even if we started the new season in September it would still give the leagues a full 9 months before the season ends. Let's not forget too that most of the European Leagues are in the same position, so voiding this season might be the easiest thing to do but it most certainly ain't the right thing to do, & only people with an agenda or vested interest would disagree, so that's why I'm absolutely convinced that those who govern our game will eventually do 'the right thing' & find a way to ensure this season comes to a natural conclusion.
Are you suggesting these changes for only one season or going forward into the future?
 

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if some of the stories about a possible NHS collapse are even remotely true then this really doesnt matter

This is actually getting scary
 

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I don't know about shortening next season but there's certainly plenty of scope to reduce the amount of games played in all competitions. The Carabao Cup needs to be ditched for starters. Then UEFA need to look at doing away with the group stages in the EL & the CL, taking both comps back to the days of the old European Cup when they were straight-forward 2 legged affairs. Even if we started the new season in September it would still give the leagues a full 9 months before the season ends. Let's not forget too that most of the European Leagues are in the same position, so voiding this season might be the easiest thing to do but it most certainly ain't the right thing to do, & only people with an agenda or vested interest would disagree, so that's why I'm absolutely convinced that those who govern our game will eventually do 'the right thing' & find a way to ensure this season comes to a natural conclusion.
If UEFA decided to ditch group stage while including smaller league in, the big clubs would rather create their Super League.

The chance the big guys drawn each other earlier is higher. The big clubs and UEFA didn’t want that.

You got it backward. Since other leagues are in same place. Voiding this season is the easier thing. Different countries being affected by the virus on different scale. One league may be completed doesn’t mean the other may.

This is a global pandemic. The governments are directly involved via national emergency act. It’s all wishful thinking to think FA people have enough power to come up with plans to play out the 9 games. Police, transportation, health care system... are being under close command from the higher top. It’s fantasy to think football games would be granted special status to have the government delegating national resource.


It used to be the norm that players could move at any time during the season (no transfer windows). No reason why that can't be brought back for a few months at least. Besides, most players out of contract at the end of June will probably have their futures already sorted out anyway. However, I don't think that the 30th June contract expiries is just cause to throw a spanner into the works. Not when you consider there's far greater, & more important, issues, that need to be prioritized.
Bosman says hi.

Since Bosman case, clubs don’t have any say after players are out of contract. Players can sign pre contract 6 months before their current contract end, when we’re at it. A huge legal mess would appear trying to oppose that. You risk years of court work to solve this where it involves countless different parties from different ongoing leagues, divisions. Each adding twist to the case.

UEFA, FIFA, national FAs ain’t all that powerful. They still have to follow the countries‘ law. Contracts are legal binding articles. Bosman ruling happened after Bosman brought his case to European Court of Justice, not your football governing body. Contracts are now composed to go well around transfer windows. No longer players‘ contract end during season for the big leagues.
 
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So change the rules so you can win the title? I think you’ll struggle to get even 1 more team on board let alone 14
Don't think there are any rules for such an exceptional scenario are there ? Decisions made will be purely arbitrary & should be made on a basis of fairness, not just to Liverpool, but to other teams too who stand to lose out.
 

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The financial effects on us will far worse than any meaningless Liverpool title that's for sure. we were honing in on top 4, in fact with the EL chance as well I'd say we had a 9 out of 10 chance of getting CL next season, if we don't then the consequences will be no CL again, players not wanting to join us, a sponsorship hit that we haven't seen before, etc, if we have to endure that whilst Liverpool get the title then it will be a farce.
 

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I would stop listening to these pundits, and sport journalist. All but speculations. In this scenario, the big clubs have good reason to go for European Super League for the time being, before UEFA can sort thing out.

This season being void doesn’t mean we go back in time.
 

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Pathetic the way most Scousers don’t give a shit about the CL but reckon they should be awarded the PL. It’s always about them. King Kenny being wheeled out now...the odious cretin. These cnuts sicken me.

Like others have said, if they were given the title, every team top of their respective league from the top to the very bottom of the football league...actually, scrap that, down to Under 7’s...should be given a title. So for that reason, feck Liverpool, they’re getting sod all.
 

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I don't know about shortening next season but there's certainly plenty of scope to reduce the amount of games played in all competitions. The Carabao Cup needs to be ditched for starters. Then UEFA need to look at doing away with the group stages in the EL & the CL, taking both comps back to the days of the old European Cup when they were straight-forward 2 legged affairs. Even if we started the new season in September it would still give the leagues a full 9 months before the season ends. Let's not forget too that most of the European Leagues are in the same position, so voiding this season might be the easiest thing to do but it most certainly ain't the right thing to do, & only people with an agenda or vested interest would disagree, so that's why I'm absolutely convinced that those who govern our game will eventually do 'the right thing' & find a way to ensure this season comes to a natural conclusion.
You said it yourself, voiding the season would be the easiest solution to the problem. I think we could all use a little 'easy' given the circumstances, no?

Just void this season, let the players go home where they can take care of themselves and their families without the worry of if/when the season starts up again, then return for pre-season training should the threat of the virus be fully contained. If not, well, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
 

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If they can't resume play in april the season needs to be abandoned. No champions because no one has won the league.
 

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Surely there's got to be some leeway in the Adidas deal if we miss out on CL because the season was voided.
 

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Yes but finish this season, Dalglish thinks it’s out of order.
King Kenny would want us to finish 19/20 in 18months time.
But then King Kenny also thought those t shirts were a good idea. Before being very swiftly removed from his job.
 

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Surely there's got to be some leeway in the Adidas deal if we miss out on CL because the season was voided.
Void means void. Adidas (and others) have probably been awaiting this exit for ages and with continued lack of CL football they will finally have their way out. And they can't wait, financially that is.

It's how the saying goes: be careful what you wish for. I can guarantee the Utd board will be fighting harder than Dalglish and Carra to get these positions frozen.
 

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Void means void. Adidas (and others) have probably been awaiting this exit for ages and with continued lack of CL football they will finally have their way out. And they can't wait, financially that is.

It's how the saying goes: be careful what you wish for. I can guarantee the Utd board will be fighting harder than Dalglish and Carra to get these positions frozen.
Nice try.

Next season CL, EL are all in doubt as the global pandemic would affect every industry. In a sense, transfer fee would go down across the board with many clubs would be forced to sell to balance the book. All clubs are losing revenue one way or another.

Adidas deal is just a dot in the bigger picture.
 

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The World Health Organisation have confirmed that the Premier League HAS to be cancelled in order to avoid the outbreak of another deadly virus, a virus that has been dormant for 30 years, the dreaded Scouse Flu... also known as the Liver Bird Flu.

The unemployed are particularly susceptible to Scouse Flu. The virus renders the patient unable to wear anything but tracksuits and trainers and causes an unbearably annoying voice. Anybody with these symptoms are required to immediately self-isolate for another 30 years minimum.

Dark times. The league must be cancelled.
 

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The sense of entitlement that's been obvious around Loserpool's club, fans and pundits is on full display for this. What a bunch of jokers.
 

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Void means void. Adidas (and others) have probably been awaiting this exit for ages and with continued lack of CL football they will finally have their way out. And they can't wait, financially that is.

It's how the saying goes: be careful what you wish for. I can guarantee the Utd board will be fighting harder than Dalglish and Carra to get these positions frozen.
I don't get it. Do you think United is not profitable as a brand?
 

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Void means void. Adidas (and others) have probably been awaiting this exit for ages and with continued lack of CL football they will finally have their way out. And they can't wait, financially that is.

It's how the saying goes: be careful what you wish for. I can guarantee the Utd board will be fighting harder than Dalglish and Carra to get these positions frozen.
Good one, next you'll be trying to convince us that Addidas are desperate to cut ties with the biggest brand name in football worldwide.

Oh, wait...
 

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Absolutely, in that sense he is no different to any family in the UK or world at present. But I would expect his article are written in the context of a professional football as a whole and as a fan would want him to show some consideration to those other than just the footballers, including backroom staff, stadium staff, match officials and fans. The fact is we are all guinea pigs as the world tries to come to grips with this outbreak. I don't think footballers are any worse off than office workers or school children and are in a significantly better position than health care workers for example.
Brilliant points mate. Footballers are probably the most privileged group in the football industry. They enjoy world class medical attention for even the slightest complaint. The PSG match fully demonstrates that, the club didn't want any fans inside the stadium in case they infect their most prized assets, the players, yet the club was happy to let thousands of fans infect each other watching the match outside the stadium.
 

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I would stop listening to these pundits, and sport journalist. All but speculations. In this scenario, the big clubs have good reason to go for European Super League for the time being, before UEFA can sort thing out.

This season being void doesn’t mean we go back in time.
The Super League will not work without crowds, and governments across Europe will not sanction attendances or crowds until this pandemic is sorted out.
 

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So the next year could resemble the dark ages where it wasn't uncommon to have the occasional friend or family member die of dysentery? All while having to go on with normal life
Surely a vaccine will be out before 2021
 

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I would stop listening to these pundits, and sport journalist. All but speculations. In this scenario, the big clubs have good reason to go for European Super League for the time being, before UEFA can sort thing out.

This season being void doesn’t mean we go back in time.
Legally, it does. It simply means that the current season will not count and we return back to status quo fom the start of the season.

Also lets not kid ourselves, UEFA will bend over backwards to shoe horn Manchester United in the champions league. People seem to forget just how fecking big we are and not having us in the CL costs not only us, but UEFA as well. Mardid, United, Barca and Bayern are the Ferrari f1 team of football. These four teams are who most people pay to watch.

Surprised they haven't invented some bullshit legacy clause to prevent the likes of all 4 not appearing in the CL.