They got Trump elected and his handling of this is going to result in a huge amount of deaths. Obviously more fortune than design on their part there, though.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Out of curiosity, if the UK goes into 'Lockdown', what does this actually mean? Is it mainly a curfew on large gatherings etc?
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EDIT: Obviously this isn't saying 30% of 20-29 year olds were infected. The point of the tweet is 'We're not testing enough', and to ask 'Is it wise to base policy on incomplete data?''
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Never change, PidgyLockdown should mean closure of all non-essential shops. Schools, bars, pubs, restaurants, tubes, all close.
Not going into biology will be one of my regrets, bats are supposed to be carying all sorts of things and I would love to know what.
Public transport?
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Exactly and all people should be advised not to congregate in groups larger than 5 and everyone who can should work from home. No going out, stay in, tough it out for 2-4 weeks and help flatten the curve.
Thing is, if I got sick from it or have previously already had it, I’d quite like to know! I’d be much less worried if day I have already got over
probably restaurants, bars, cafes, gyms closed and told to stay at home where possible whilst still being able to go to work if it’s not. All events cancelled of course. Social distancing if we go for walks etc. It’ll be a soft lockdown first. To be honest we should already be in that stage IMO
Ban on leaving the house for any reason other than to work or acquire essentials. Closure of non-essential businesses.
I'd imagine they'll need to keep very few bus lines open, but tubes and tram would surely be a no-go in a lockdown.
Ozzy Ozbourne probably started coronavirus. Didn't he bit the head off bats?
I don’t find this terrifying. I realise the implications around how it will spread the disease but it also underlined the potential that it’s actual mortality rate is a much lower, more digestible figure.
Yes. Yes you have bullied him enough. Lay off the insults and ignore him for now and just let him come to the realisation himself in 3 to 4 weeks.
I think one of the scariest thoughts is how the world will look once we get through this. The impact it is having already is staggering.
I'm also curious about this. Fine I get they could shut cafes, bars and museums etc, but if supermarkets stay open, presumably they'll be real hotbeds of disease. I live in London so given the population density, staggering entry into the shops to try and minimise transmission is not feasible.
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South Carolina’s Dept of Health announced today that we aren’t going to test people unless they have symptoms
As a part-time mathematician (I am supposed to get my Ph.D. in July but probably now will never happen), I think this is bollocks. Under no circumstances it is better to make the lockdown later than earlier. If the plan is a lockdown, it should be ASAP, otherwise much will get worse. One week keeping the economy going won't help the economy that much, but it will increase 4 fold the number of infected (and consequently have long term disastrous consequences in health and even delay the shutdown of the lockdown).
The only way it makes sense to not do a lockdown, is to actually not carry it at all. Sacrifice 200k-2m people and deal with it.
This is why I am really worried that they run the numbers, they run the models and saw that every scenario has the same epilogue. Which might well be true, unfortunate as it is. But then, why the other countries are not doing the same?
SARS, MERS, Codid-19 are Ebola have all originated in bats. fecking bats!
Anyone having danger shags on Tinder?
what are you studying/did you study?
Do you think it will be okay to have a drink with 2 other people in my house next weekend. Couple of my friends and I haven't seen one and other in about 4 months so we were planning on heading out for a mad one but that's obviously a stupid idea. 3 people in the house with a lot of beer and wine that should be fine, shouldn't it?
I'm not convinced the Tories would ever go down this road but I hope they do.
I run a small computer repair workshop, and a lockdown would probably be the end of it - but at this stage, if a lockdown saves lives, then to hell with my business and with the economy.
That said, if economic tanking ends up killing people in other ways, then that's also bad.
That's probably not the point. The point is probably closer to 'these are the chances you could feel fine and be killing someone else's grandma by being out and about'
I cancelled my date last weekend...
You reckon? I do think castigation is an important influence in this, as far many more folk than himself will see how pissed off with him we were and think twice going forward. I don't think just one person telling him he was being a moron would've been enough.
Fair enough, if you think it's enough now, though.
What does that mean? You banging OAP's?
Been saying this for days. There is a reason the Italian government were pleading with kids to respect the lockdown and saying young people are the primary spreaders.
Is this a high street type operation or do you get contracted from Currys and the likes?
Bats are one of the worst vectors for pathogens in existance.
Some might laugh do we think this includes pound shops? It's basically a supermarket for me, I use this for cat food and bog roll.
No. Just forget about any trivial, non-essential things you had planned for the next while. They can all be done when appropriate.
A statistician will be able to comment, but you can’t just compare the results like that. You need to know how many were tested in each bucket too at least, and standardise to allow for differences in population.
Can't go into details but I'm a nurse and the fact that we are not testing people is a scary! I've been told that I may be C-19 triaging tomorrow so I phoned a work buddy who was triaging today for a run down as to what I have to do tomorrow and the protocols in place is a farce.
Anyone who is suspected with C-19 is not being tested unless they need to be admitted for hospital treatment. People with coughs and high temps are just being sent home. Obvisouly each one has potential to be infected and you just hope they are sensible about going home to self isolate and not stopping off at Starbucks on the way.
Obviously if you are very ill then we welcome you but it's also clear that people are not listening to the self isolation instructions and turning up to ED regardless of their symptoms. Also loads of staff already self isolating. This is going to bring the NHS to its knees if people carry using this service so irresponsibily.
Anyone who is suspected with C-19 is not being tested unless they need to be admitted for hospital treatment. People with coughs and high temps are just being sent home. Obvisouly each one has potential to be infected and you just hope they are sensible about going home to self isolate and not stopping off at Starbucks on the way.
Obviously if you are very ill then we welcome you but it's also clear that people are not listening to the self isolation instructions and turning up to ED regardless of their symptoms. Also loads of staff already self isolating. This is going to bring the NHS to its knees if people carry using this service so irresponsibily.